Child hitting my child at school

Could you maybe try sounding less insulting towards kids with SEN?

Not sure why you would presume the staff member would be talking about it and not the OPs child? Or the child’s mother who was openly laughing about his violence in public…

All children???
Thankfully no it's not the same in England I have a severely autistic non verbal.13 year old
Who.has always Been a special school I can't imagine how it would benefit him.at all.to.be in mainstream , Op, you need to ask the school.what they are doing to safeguard your child concentrate on how she us being let down.

I work as a midday supervisor and no, it's not at all.appropriate to discuss incidents that happen at school outside school staff. As for being kicked etc, it's a very regular occurrence, not just by students, parents can be very violent too.

Lucky schools

Absolutely! Completely agree

Private school have a lot of neurodiverse children especially in early primary.

It isn’t right that your daughter is in this position. I would write to your MP outlining your concerns. There is a reason that there is an Education crisis. The crisis is real and the government are aware and should be held accountable . Schools and school staff are trying their best in very difficult contexts. Unfortunately, change will not happen unless parents and communities rally behind schools. As a mother to a child about to start school and as a teacher, it breaks my heart to know that this situation is not isolated and is very much the norm.

OP said The dinner lady at dd's school was really (understandably) upset by what happened in the playground. the OP also seems to know the child’s disability, that his support involves an absent TA and a unit, and when he is “punished” and how often he is in and out of class. Disabled people have a right to privacy, he presumably can’t attend school without this support and it definitely shouldn’t be common knowledge in the playground.

All that said repeatedly insisting on your child’s safety will help him get more support and help her have a more peaceful school experience.

Lovely. All of us poor people will just have to suck up having those kids in our schools.

That’s not victim blaming. She’s not saying she is responsible for being attacked.

If you can afford private then please move her. You will be a paying customer there, and private schools can't afford to tolerate that sort of behaviour for fear of losing pupils.
Any really badly behaved children are managed out. (This happened in my granddaughter's school).

I think you want to try reading that again

It’s the boys mother who’s ‘gossiping’ about the attack, laughing and joking about it to the OP, not the poor dinner lady who’s been attacked by a violent child!

Many can't cope with mainstream school though. Cruel to put them in mainstream school.

Because she shouldn’t be naming children and gossiping about them to other parents.

Sure….and how exactly do you think she’s broken confidentiality in this scenario?

No I’m not but I do understand confidentiality as does ANYONE working in school

I d think this is a real gap in education. It works for no one. The kids who can’t cope in mainstream are forced to be there. They may disrupt or hurt the other kids. Teachers time gets taken from teaching.

The only specialist provision now is for kids with severe disabilities or really severe behavioural problems.

I presume the only reason it’s like this as the government doesn’t want to spend money to address this gap and can hide behind the ridiculously simplistic and demonstrable wrong idea that ‘inclusion’ ( by which they mean bunging everyone in together with no real thought and analysis of the benefits and harms of this ) is always a good thing.

My son has asd and attends an autism class (I hate the word unit) anyway he attends mainstream for a small part of the day and spends most of his time in the smaller calmer class setting. It looks like these children are not having their needs met so you need to constantly complain as their behavior is not acceptable. Unfortunately sometimes schools open up special classes without fully taking on board the commitment and the work involved. It's not simply a case of opening a class and it will all work out great.

Why shouldn't she.

Who would want to be hurt in their job

Are you the boys mother? The poor woman was attacked at work and you’re trying to victim blame her, disgusting.

I teach in a private school and it’s worlds away from the state schools. I have friends who teach in state schools and the stuff they deal with I just couldn’t even imagine. One friend has a boy in her class who regularly goes on a rampage destroying the class ripping posters down upturning desks, throwing stuff. She just has to evacuate the rest of the kids from the class and leave him to it. (This is year 3). Can’t make him stop or talk to him. His mum just blames the school and demands to know why he doesn’t learn anything or get a report card with grades like the other kids.

It's not true to say private schools have better provisions, most of them just kick the children out. We've had children turn up in our state primary who've been told with very little notice that they are not welcome anymore. Private schools can just decide to exclude the child without any support given or any of the long processes that state schools will have to go through. Losing one childs fees is far more preferable to risking losing many more if they allow the child to stay and try to manage the situation.

The sad truth is that specialist settings are incredibly hard to find and obtain and children who really need this environment are left in mainstream with inadequate funding to help them and all the other children in their class.

I would second a previous poster and say you should request a meeting with the safeguarding lead to ask about thesafeguarding provisions for your child.

I'd actually written something similar about meeting needs then deleted it before posting. She's partly right (and partly wrong). Autistic children do lash out when their needs are not being met. It is the school's job to manage that effectively. But not getting some equipment out for him isn't "unmet needs" that's "giving him whatever he wants."

Two key ways they can meet his needs are: 1. Ensuring the class's work is differentiated adequately so that all students can access the learning and simultaneously don't finish it too quickly and get bored, and 2. Ensuring the boy's transitions and dead time are managed appropriately so he is always occupied in some way and not left hanging. It sounds like he was trying to find something to do. He should have as part of his management plan somewhere to go and something to do at his breaks/lunches/any time he's out of lessons, and a member of staff should guide him there to ensure he goes to the right place. There will be other interventions needed at various times but these two things underpin everything else.

But you are completely right, these are not yours or your daughter's problems. I'm trying to make it clear that the school's management is the issue here and there's a lot they could do better that would head off this sort of behaviour before it starts, better schools are doing these things, and moving your daughter to a school where the SEN kids are properly cared for and managed would benefit your daughter massively.