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Boyfriend not paying towards expenses after moving in with me and my children.

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Bumblebeee33 · 08/11/2023 10:32

My boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years and decided to move in together with me and my two school aged children 6 months ago.

He moved into my place that I own outright with no mortgage.
Before moving in he told me he wanted to contribute to the outgoings.

Since moving in he has not contributed at all financially. He has said he is having a tough time financially and not earning from his work as he’s had a lot of clients drop off but has a big job at the end of the year which will bring him in a big cheque. However he still hasn’t offered or suggested to contribute then.

He will, on occasion, buy some groceries if we go to the supermarket together. He will also pick up things he likes to eat on his own time.

He doesn’t do housework as I pay for a cleaner for a few hours a week and then do the rest myself. He is not messy and tidies away his own things.

His child comes to stay every other weekend and I cook for him and we do things together as a family. Often I book these things for us.

When I say that I do a lot for him he sneers and says that I don’t. He doesn’t see that I am doing anything for him as I would ‘still do all the same things if he weren’t living here.’ Like pay the bills, cook, clean, look after the kids. He does his own laundry.

He comes home to a tidy, looked after home with dinner on the table. Although often he will just get a sandwich on the way back from work and not eat what I’ve made.

Before he moved in we used to spend time at his apartment (where he managed to pay the rent and bills and do the housework all alone) and would go away on breaks together and go for meals out. Most of which he would pay for. Since moving in we don’t do those things anymore. We have been away once and I booked, organised and paid for it all.

Am I being unreasonable to expect him to contribute something towards the expenses or should I wait until he is in a better financial position?

OP posts:
CryptoFascist · 09/11/2023 07:02

"When I say that I do a lot for him he sneers"

I would kick him out for this alone.

Bogeyes · 09/11/2023 07:00

You are now his mummy.

48wheaties · 09/11/2023 07:00

Have you kicked him out yet?

TheCurtainQueen · 09/11/2023 06:57

What did he say when you spoke to him OP?

Dibbydoos · 09/11/2023 06:56

He's a cocktail lodger and you need to get shut of him.

His attitude stinks you can do far better.

LoneFemaleTraveller · 09/11/2023 06:51

This one is an arsehole. He played you to get to move in.

he is awful. Rude to you? Wtf? Make him leave.

wesurecouldstandgladioli · 09/11/2023 06:46

Bumblebeee33 · 08/11/2023 17:08

Thank you everyone who has commented, I can’t believe the amount of you who have! And who clearly feel very strongly about it too. I have now learnt a new word, cocklodger…

I am feeling like a fool right now. I suppose I knew it already, but was hoping he would change back to who he was in the early days.

He spent quite a lot on me and my kids before moving in. Trips, holidays and meals out. He was the perfect guy in every way. He always had time for me and made a real effort. He also paid half towards some furniture before he moved in so he contributed in that way.

Then he has slowly changed and I thought it was the stress of trying to be with us and at his, with his work and with his child. So I stupidly thought that once he moved in it would be easier for him and we would get to spend more time together.

We now don’t spend really any quality time together unless I organise it and even then he isn’t enthusiastic. He says I’m needy for wanting to spend time together.

He said he was having financial difficulties but that it wasn’t the reason he moved in. He moved in because he wanted to be with me/ us. He is now obviously saving the amount he used to spend on his rent and bills. If he can’t afford to help out here I can’t see how it was possible to stay at his old place?! Which means he is lying about his motivation for moving in.

God I’m angry!

He has also told some lies relating to his finances.

I am going to talk to him tonight when the kids are in bed. If of course he isn’t too busy for me.

Did you talk to him, OP?

Girlsjustwannahavefundamentalrights · 09/11/2023 06:17

You're putting this cocklodger above your own children. He's taking resources and energy that you could be spending on them, or yourself!

CandyLeBonBon · 09/11/2023 06:17

And also wtf? "he might not actually be aware of all the things you do for him and his child that cost money."

He might not realise that children cost money?

That's a hell of a knot to tie yourself in to give someone the benefit of the doubt! And frankly, a ridiculous take!

CandyLeBonBon · 09/11/2023 06:15

C1N1C · 09/11/2023 06:13

Going somewhat against the grain here...

Did you really expect to come on MN saying a man practically lives with you and doesn't contribute would receive anything other than LTB?

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here... he might not actually be aware of all the things you do for him and his child that cost money.

If you love him, and think this might simply be an oversight, tot up all the expenses and time you put into things for him and present it to him, stating that money and time is tight and if he wants to be there long term, this is the minimum contribution needed. If he says he can't afford it, then you have a decision to make... either cut back on time and money for him (I.e. stop cooking, see him less etc), or accept it with the hope that it will be paid back in the long-term.

Have you read the OP's update?

C1N1C · 09/11/2023 06:13

Going somewhat against the grain here...

Did you really expect to come on MN saying a man practically lives with you and doesn't contribute would receive anything other than LTB?

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here... he might not actually be aware of all the things you do for him and his child that cost money.

If you love him, and think this might simply be an oversight, tot up all the expenses and time you put into things for him and present it to him, stating that money and time is tight and if he wants to be there long term, this is the minimum contribution needed. If he says he can't afford it, then you have a decision to make... either cut back on time and money for him (I.e. stop cooking, see him less etc), or accept it with the hope that it will be paid back in the long-term.

MsRosley · 09/11/2023 05:57

OP, ASSERT YOURSELF! He is royally taking the piss, and he's not a nice guy. Get him the fuck out of your house and out of your life.

mrsmingleton · 09/11/2023 05:03

The honeymoon period is wearing off and he is showing you who he is. Get rid of him ASAP.

Whiteday · 09/11/2023 04:50

Just get rid!

bibop · 09/11/2023 04:27

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 09/11/2023 01:47

Okay he is taking the piss. You need to write a list of all the living expenses bills etc and divide it up. As you said he was paying rent and bills before he moved in with you.
It is not that you are doing all the chores anyway, it is that resentment will build that you feel you are just doing it all and he lets you.
Have a firm calm chat with him, give him the list of what he has to pay, also for activities for his child he has to pay. Why are you paying for it all or you both go halves if your children involved.
You also need to keep a bit of romance involved, time for just the two of you but seems he is taking you for granted and now he has moved in he is just literally taking the piss.
If he says he will not pay ask him to leave or you will regret it.
It sounds like you work hard and have a comfortable life and he thinks he can just move in and not contribute, next he will be looking for a stake in your house. I would never move a man in if had small children unless he was willing to contribute his share and would have a will/trust fund set up for the children so he can never touch your house as that is for your children.
What does he add to your life. He is treating you like his mother.

Don't do any of this. Just get rid.

He has already showed his true colours - sneering at her and saying she does nothing for him. Refusing to much spend time with her now he's moved in and calling her 'needy' for wanting the basics of a relationship. After initially pretending to be someone he isn't.

He is using her for cooking, cleaning, a free home and sex (probably). He isn't a person of good character. If he was, he would have contributed by now.

bibop · 09/11/2023 04:21

He's using you. I'm sorry, OP. You deserve better.

echt · 09/11/2023 03:59

blackfluffycat · 09/11/2023 00:08

How bizarre? As long as the sex is good a man can treat you however he pleases?

@Littlelucas is being ironic.

fulawitt · 09/11/2023 03:40

Boyfriend is not husband. It's written on the tin. Out. Tough I know, but that is the only viable solution.

ForfarBridie · 09/11/2023 03:05

Dear Op,

It is not true that having any man at all is better than having no man at all.

Get rid of him.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 09/11/2023 02:32

Not only are you not unreasonable, sadly, you're a fool for letting this go on. You sound like a bright woman: organized, raising kids on your own, self-sufficient and mortgage-free.
BUT, your partner is a loser and you're his mummy.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 09/11/2023 01:47

Okay he is taking the piss. You need to write a list of all the living expenses bills etc and divide it up. As you said he was paying rent and bills before he moved in with you.
It is not that you are doing all the chores anyway, it is that resentment will build that you feel you are just doing it all and he lets you.
Have a firm calm chat with him, give him the list of what he has to pay, also for activities for his child he has to pay. Why are you paying for it all or you both go halves if your children involved.
You also need to keep a bit of romance involved, time for just the two of you but seems he is taking you for granted and now he has moved in he is just literally taking the piss.
If he says he will not pay ask him to leave or you will regret it.
It sounds like you work hard and have a comfortable life and he thinks he can just move in and not contribute, next he will be looking for a stake in your house. I would never move a man in if had small children unless he was willing to contribute his share and would have a will/trust fund set up for the children so he can never touch your house as that is for your children.
What does he add to your life. He is treating you like his mother.

Catsmere · 09/11/2023 01:45

blackfluffycat · 09/11/2023 00:08

How bizarre? As long as the sex is good a man can treat you however he pleases?

I read @Littlelucas's comment as saying he has absolutely nothing else going for him and wondering why OP bothers, not saying anything justifies his behaviour or suggesting she should put up with it.

Catsmere · 09/11/2023 01:43

Cocklodger. Get rid.

Saggypants · 09/11/2023 01:36

He said he was having financial difficulties but that it wasn’t the reason he moved in. He moved in because he wanted to be with me/ us. He is now obviously saving the amount he used to spend on his rent and bills. If he can’t afford to help out here I can’t see how it was possible to stay at his old place?! Which means he is lying about his motivation for moving in.

This reminded me of my XH's strategy. He took on huge debt in order to present himself as successful and financially stable. He was not. I didn't know I was pairing up with a financial black hole until it was too late. In some ways, I am still paying for it 20 years later.

It's possible your delightful fella has actually ruined himself trying to attract and keep what he sees as a high value woman, i.e. you, i.e. someone who has the means to keep him in the lifestyle he thinks he deserves but can't afford himself.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 09/11/2023 00:46

Get rid of this parasite
You are literally paying for his company, such as it is!
He doesn't appreciate you or care for you
Concentrate on yourself and your DC