XL Bully Around Children

Surely this isn't real ? How old is her child ? I would call child protection on my own sister if she did this.

This is an extreme unpredictable and dangerous breed. Do not go near or let your children near it. She must be mad or stupid

What on earth is wrong with her?

why would she choose to buy a dog she must have neutered and muzzled in public at all times?! I know she won’t plan to buy a dog and rehome it but it can’t even be rehomed legally. She’ll need to prove she has a secure garden etc etc.

there are other issues obviously but of all the things I would pay cash for - a muzzled dog is not one of them!!! Why purchase aggro just to get an unpopular dog. People are idiots.

I don't think you need to be fuming. You just say a very very firm NO to visiting them at all. End of.

Your life will be complete without visiting this woman. And you need to keep your children safe.

I can’t believe anyone could be so dim. She has children ffs.

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Is she aware that if it escapes and takes itself for a jolly ( like they often do) it’ll be shot?
Get a grip, dogs have been exempted for 30 years, none who escape are automatically shot!!
The hysteria and ignorance on this forum is ridiculous.
OP if your SIL has this pup the best thing she can do is train and socialise and muzzle train as she will have to adhere to exemption rules. Her property will need to be secure: 6ft fence.
The dog will not be able to be bred, rehomed and if put into rescue will be euthanised.
I hope she is fully committed to this puppy for the next 12/14 years.

Dogs Trust have posted a good info thread for owners

www.dogstrust.org.uk/dog-advice/life-with-your-dog/at-home/american-bully-xl#:~:text=It%20covers%20all%20dogs%20including,within%20the%20Dangerous%20Dogs%20Act.

You need to develop the attitude of My kids, My rules!
It doesn't matter if everyone thought you were over the top, your job is to protect your children and nobody 💯 can say a dog won't attack, no matter the breed. Now, soke dogs are nippy and bite but can be handled but these are weighty beasts that's adults can barely handle. It just takes one wrong move or bite and your kid is dead and there's no bringing your child back just because you SIL says it's safe.
I'd also be wondering where she bought it anyway as many that have been removed have been for a reason. She will have to muzzle it by the end of the year otherwise they can take the dog away and destroy it under new laws. She sounds daft.

Op countless experts have backed up that this breed has an innate built in prey drive that you can't train out of it.they have killed their owners, children in their family, friends children.
. They can't be trusted. I would also be absolutely furious.

Some of these XL Bullys are from very inbred lines. They’re reactive and unstable. Doesn’t matter how they’ve been socialised.

https://bullywatch.link/breed-genetics/

YANBU in the slightest. There’s a good reason they are being banned. One in our local park got spooked by one of my kids crying, and it started snarling and lunging at her, honestly it looked/sounded like it wanted to kill her and I don’t know what would have happened had the guy not been able to manage it on the lead. I feel sorry for the owners of gentle XLs but there are far too many risks.

Another one here with a degree in canine behaviour. I work with dogs on a daily basis.

Not a chance would I allow my children around one, no exceptions.

I don't see how she can claim the dog is fine when she hasn't even got it yet.

YANBU I wouldn't have my children around any of the large/muscle breeds and even at that I'm cautious having my kids around all dogs. I have had 3 quite serious dog bites in my time and know how quickly a dog can turn, no matter the breed or how familiar you are with the dog.

I don’t go in for all the dog hysteria you so often see on mumsnet and will usually stand up for dogs owners and the rights of dogs to have a decent life, be allowed off lead etc. But even I wouldn’t be letting my kids around a dog like that.

It doesn’t sound like your SIL has much experience of dogs and therefore unlikely to be able to properly train it. Fighting is in their genes, just like herding is in a collies. it might be fine, but it might not and if it isn’t the consequences would be dire. If a spaniel decides to bite you, yes it would hurt, but most dogs only bite in fear or self defence and don’t go in for the kill like XL bullies. It’s just not in their genetic make up in the same way. So YANBU.

YANBU

I love bull breed dogs.
I have a massive American bulldog x bull mastiff who I trust more than most people and has the most beautiful temperament of any dog I’ve ever met.

But I would never leave any dog that I haven’t had for long, around children.

My own dog was always put away when the kids were younger and even now they’re teens I am very careful. They know they’re not allowed around her when I’m not there.

My dog has never shown any aggression and is the most placid thing in the world but it is never worth the risk.

My sister had an aggressive chihuahua and my DC wasn’t allowed around unless she put it away because I wouldn’t want my child bit by a dog and even a small chihuahua could do damage.

So many of these stories of dog attacks happen not long after the person has got the dog and it’s scary why anyone would take the risk.

Utter madness to buy one because it’s cheap. Go to a rescue and pay the donation fee, there are often puppies available or temperament tested slightly older dogs.

She's an idiot.
It would be a hard no to ever going anywhere near that dog for me.

I would do the same OP, your kids your rules.

YANBU to not allow your children to be around any dog - children lack the skills to read the body language of dogs.

Your sister is massively unreasonable to purchase an XL bully pup, who's whole life will sadly now be very restricted.

YABU to write a post which adds to the witch-hunt of this particular breed.

My friend has an XL bully, he is a big pile of soppy mush!
however she will do anything and everything to abide by laws and keep people safe, even tho he’d more likely lick you to death!! does your sil know that by next year muzzling will be mandatory for bully’s? And they need certain harnesses. Also they can’t be insured at the moment.
I have older children but I wouldn’t let younger kids round a bully. At the end of the day you are the one that need to protect your kids. X

I am a massive dog lover, having 3 of my own (2 of which are Rottweilers). I would NOT be spending time in that home and nor would my children. There hasn’t been a single week lately where this dog breed hasn’t attacked or killed. These dogs are dangerous, they have been so interbred that they are mentally unbalanced.
In the case of this breed it is the dog and not the owner/lack of training. Being around these dogs is akin to Russian roulette. I hope that your SIL doesn’t find this out the hard way 😞

Better safe than devastatingly sorry, OP.

SIL doesn't sound like a responsible dog owner at all so I wouldn't let mine anywhere near.

When walking my dog around our small village I met an elderly man I often meet and say hello, etc. Last week he had a puppy he said it was one of ‘those American ones’ I said did he know they were being banned, he said his adult grand daughter ‘had all the paperwork’! My friend met them later in the week with the grand daughter’s small child leading it. Fortunately for me they took it back to Manchester, but their small child could possibly be at risk when it grows bigger.

Oh my god, that woman had the dog 'a couple of months' and left her six year old alone with it. She says she dismissed the XL bully ban as nonsense until she had to drag the thing off her child, leaving him with serious injuries. I'm not blaming her; no one deserves to learn their lesson in such s traumatic way but the entrenched belief being spread around social media that these animals are 'nanny dogs' or 'big softies' is truly terrifying. She's very lucky her son is alive and both of them will live with the repercussions of this attack forever. Something needs to be done about the pro-bully propaganda putting children at risk like this.

I have a medium sized terrier mix which I cannot explicitly trust around children. Knowing how 'feisty' terrier types can be and add in the absolute size of the bull terrier mixes like the XL bully, it's just a no really. Don't take the risk at all.