To want my name said correctly?

@PumkinPorridge , I find it a bit precious to be offended about someone mispronouncing your name.
You probably find me precious then. I would probably be shocked if someone said my name correctly. It's a lovely name but nobody other than speakers of my language can say.

Many of the mispronunciations sound horrible. Some are just about tolerable.
The misspellings are either someone trying to make it into something they recognise, or rather funny.
The worst comments are ones like 'Why do you say/spell it like that when it's (something vaguely similar)' or 'What a stupid name'

@BestKitten

PumkinPorridge
My name is nearly always said wrong and spelt wrong. It's a foreign name and not common. I really love my name. It's pretty and I feel lucky to have such a nice name
^It literally never bothers me if people call me the wrong name. I occasionally correct people but the fact somebody has said my name wrongs means absolutely nothing. Why should it? Even if it's because they are being lazy what difference does it make to me?
Lots of people have flaws, I'm not sure saying 'zz' instead of 'ss' is that bad.*

"Wow I really do not agree nor can I understand this outlook. Good on you but I can't say I know anyone , even the least sensitive people, who wouldn't be bothered by people alway mispronouncing their name. Good on you for being thick skinned. Your name is how you interface with the world, if it causes an issue each times, it's awkward! Do you have a middle name or another shortening of your name op?"

Not minding if people mispronounce my name isn't being'thick-skinned'. I simply don't mind. I'll get offended when people are trying to offend me but I find it a bit precious to be offended about someone mispronouncing your name.

I think you might be right with the Joe-Lee vs Roly. The problem is that I can’t hear the difference still. At the very back of my mind I can see how they might sound different but saying them both sounds the same and imagining someone else saying them they are still the same.

I'm going to discuss your thoughts with her and see if I can work it out.

Maybe you are in the wrong part of Britain? I went to primary school (many years ago) with an Elise and it was always Eleezuh. We were up in the northwest and not at all familiar with Beethoven.

Issy Suttie is a famous Issssy rather than Izzzzy. It's a different name. It would annoy me too if my name was mispronounced

The "Elise" dilemma is interesting to me. I know two women named Denise. One pronounces her name De-neeze and the other is De-neese. I don't see either of them often, and then I struggle to remember which is which.

@Herecomesdehotstepper

I know a female Lesley but she spells it Leslie which is the male version

This is mainly a UK thing, I think.

Of the top of my head, I can think of Leslie Caron, French actor, and Leslie Van Houten, American murderer and member of the Manson Family. There are loads more famous female Leslies outside the UK

There are people who truly can't hear the same nuances in pronunciation.

This is very true. And what someone else said about some people being able to hear and understand them, but not pronounce them, and being aware of that to a greater or lesser extent.

There are also many people with some level of hearing loss who either aren't aware that they have it yet, or might not want to say so and draw attention to it, but they are doing their best. This can make it harder to learn to pronounce, and also remember, names. I don't say #BeKind very often but in this case, I do.

I would just leave it, and secretly smile to yourself about the people who manage to pronounce it correctly including your colleague who you suspect is trying very hard to. If you have a colleague who you think is just taking the piss, because it's part of their general attitude, feel free to secretly judge them on it too.

Thought so, like Siobhán is Shiv-AUN (not Shivvonne)

Ciarán is Kee-RAUN.

I know a female Lesley but she spells it Leslie which is the male version but it looks right for a female (I've always thought they should be the other way round).

Wow I really do not agree nor can I understand this outlook. Good on you but I can't say I know anyone , even the least sensitive people, who wouldn't be bothered by people alway mispronouncing their name. Good on you for being thick skinned. Your name is how you interface with the world, if it causes an issue each times, it's awkward! Do you have a middle name or another shortening of your name op?

I was a bit surprised to see Storm Kee Ron was actually Storm Ciarán. I thought Ciarán was Keerun or Keeraun

I have a name that was quite common up to the 1950s, with the standard spelling, which breaks one of the best known rules. There are several variants, but they are pretty uncommon, especially now that the name has pretty much died out.

Saying it is not too bad, although I did have one colleague who always called me by a completely different name with the same first two letters. I'm not sure what that was about.

Writing however is a completely different matter. My work e mail is a first name dot last name format. If I give that to people 9/10 of them will spell my first name wrong and I won't get the e mail. Luckily, I have a numerical alias, which works much better.

@Manadou , I think you mean monolglot brits, not all brits. Quite a few brits speak more than one language.

There's an Elise in our family who rhymes with Police which won't help your cause. She was named after the car.

Coral and Carol
Vowels tend to get transposed especially if there are several next to each other.
Leylah and Laylah are different vowel sounds. Are they?
I'd say both as Layla
Leila and Laila I'd say as Layla and Lie-la respectively but would be prepared to be corrected.

I don’t understand people who get themselves into a pickle at people who struggle with their name. I have people who still spell my name incorrectly despite it being on lots or paperwork etc
Some people mind, some don't. There may be cultural reasons why someone not getting a name right might seem like 'othering'. Dismissing it as 'get themselves into a pickle at people who struggle with their name' is a bit insulting IMO.

Do not expect many Brits to know to pronounce German names.

It happens to really famous people too.

RIP Liza

Could t be that she wants the extra syllable? So Joe-a-ly?**

@Redvelvet24 , do you have a regional accent or do you say it as Joe Lee? I've only heard Joely said to rhyme with Roly, but Joel will get said as Joe-(u)l, Jole and Joe El.

Tongue position can be really helpful for sorting pronunciation issue's that you can't hear
Definitely if it's sounds not in your own language.

For the native English speaking people who think others' mispronunciations are micro aggressions, I'd love to hear them try to perfectly speak words in a tonal language, like Vietnamese. However, people from Viet Nam are probably too polite to correct you.

'Tin hat time. If I saw it written, and didn't know the person, I'd say it like in the Beethoven (German) music title Für Elise, that is Eleezuh'

@Manadou Yes Eleezuh is what we were actually aiming at and is how I say it, but we thought in Britain it would be Eleeze. Didn't realise it was actually Eleece which is even further away.