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To want my name said correctly?

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WhereDoesItAllGo · 02/11/2023 23:49

My name is unusual, but follows English phonics rules. The same spelling is sometimes used by people shortening a different name with a zed sound, so their nickname is the same as my name, but with zed where I have ess. Unfortunately, some famous people have had this nickname, so the name with zed is known but my name with ess is unfamiliar.

For years I just tolerated my name being mauled. I can be quite shy and I was embarrassed to make a fuss. But I recently started in a new job, and felt it was an opportunity to establish my name correctly. It has been such an effort to stop people and remind them that my name is actually Xysss, not Xyzzz.

Six weeks on, some people are still zedding me. WIBU to start calling them Tom instead of Tim, or Ninny instead of Nina?

Just to add to the discomfort, my nearest more senior colleague, with whom I spend a lot of time and work very closely, has a slight lisp. I think this person may genuinely be unable to pronounce my name correctly. They certainly try, and they pronounce my name with a slight, blurry zed. Unfortunately the coworker who zeds my name the worst also works closely with us. How can I correct the one without humiliating the other?

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JayJayEl · 23/07/2024 13:43

Oh, @WhereDoesItAllGo , I really feel for you!!! Names are such an important part of a person's identity, and I think too many people ignore that.
My name is an already shortened version of a longer name, but people still shorten it further despite me only ever introducing myself as my actual name. I even have close friends (of decades) who know how much I hate the shortened version, but still call me it. It's also an unusual spelling and people will reply to emails, read my name, then respond with the more common spelling. My in-laws of over a decade still spell It wrong every single time - they actually use a different spelling for each thing, just never the correct one. 😂 It drives me bloody wild!!!

Unfortunately I've found that there's NOTHING that can be done. Directly telling people, making jokes about it, pulling people to one side... nothing works and people will not change their ways. The only one that can change anything is you, and how you feeling about it.

I know this from many other examples. I'm an adoptive parent and so my understanding of the importance of a name has become even stronger over the last few years. I have a sibling with a hyphenated name and even their partner shortens their name, despite my sibling hating it. People I work with mispronounce service user's names, despite these mostly being quite typical British names. (Think calling someone Ellie instead of Allie.) And don't get me started on the mispronunciation of non-traditionally British names!!! Any staff or service from non-Western heritage with unusual (to us) names are treated so poorly. Staff will ask their name, frown at them, pull faces as they try and pronounce it, literally MAKE FUN, and then end with, "I can't say that so I'm going to call you X (random word that sounds nothing like that person's name, or like any name) instead". I find it so rude and disrespectful. But try as I may to correct staff, it doesn't work.

As a person from the (predominantly white) Welsh Valleys, I have worked in communities with predominantly Muslim Asian heritage, and communities with Black Africa so have had to practise my fair share of difficult names. It's hard, and of course it's easier to just shorten a name or come up with a nickname, but I really believe it's disrespectful. If it's a really unusual name you're bound to get it wrong sometimes, especially if you're talking about something important, it in a rush, or what not. But people should show a will to try! So I do feel for you.

Apologies, @WhereDoesItAllGo ! A very long message to basically say that there's, sadly, not a lot you can do! I'd maybe try a few more times - probably taking people to one side - and if that doesn't change things you have to try and change your way of thinking. 😬 Good luck, Xysss!

Hankunamatata · 31/03/2024 13:29

If people see your name and don't hear it. Brains can tend to interpret sounds they expect to see not what is actually there. So ob Izzy is quite common so they so issy and brain sees izzy as that's what they are familiar with.

I'd correct the work person who doesn't have the lisp.

Seaswimmer23 · 31/03/2024 13:22

I also have a name with an s as in so, but it mispronounced with an s as in oss. I always gently correct with a smile, tiresome but everyone can give people the respect of saying their name correctly.

Dmsatdawn · 05/11/2023 17:34

I have three friends called Marie, all pronounced differently. So there’s ‘Marry’, ‘Mah-ree’ and ‘Ma-ree. I always think first so not to offend.

ThinkingAgainAndAgain · 05/11/2023 16:02

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 05/11/2023 15:43

Correct them. Most would be pleased to know how to say it correctly.
I disagree. IME people don't like being corrected.

When I've met people it's the name they're introduced with that sticks in my mind, so if someone said someone's name was Freja (Freya), I might feel a bit stupid if I'd called her that for a while before being corrected (Fry-a)

I completely agree. I find that it goes down incredibly badly when I correct someone, even though I do it ever so nicely, with their feelings in mind.

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 05/11/2023 15:43

Correct them. Most would be pleased to know how to say it correctly.
I disagree. IME people don't like being corrected.

When I've met people it's the name they're introduced with that sticks in my mind, so if someone said someone's name was Freja (Freya), I might feel a bit stupid if I'd called her that for a while before being corrected (Fry-a)

ohdamnitjanet · 05/11/2023 15:23

My name is a very simple ( to me, anyway ) easily spelt name. It never ceases to amaze me the mistakes in spelling and pronunciation people make, but it really doesn’t bother me. Sometimes I correct them, sometimes I don’t, but they don’t do it with malice. One of my best friends for 20 plus years is called Corinne - she told me recently I’ve pronounced it wrong since day one 😂 it happens.

BreatheAndFocus · 05/11/2023 12:54

Correct them. Most would be pleased to know how to say it correctly. Sometimes when you tell people your name for the first time, they don’t fully take it in because they’re focussing on remembering your face, where you’ll be working, your hours, etc etc. They then remember roughly what it is but not always exactly. The sooner you correct them, the easier it will be for the name to embed properly in their head. Suggesting a rhyme is good, eg “It’s not Caz, it’s Cass to rhyme with ‘lass’ - Cass..Lass”.

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 05/11/2023 10:36

Like 'Gerra pint' without the 'a p'. Gerr-int to rhyme

Seaside3 · 05/11/2023 10:18

If you're northern, just tell them it rhymes with 'is he'. (We like to drop our h's)

In all seriousness, its annoying, but frankly I'd just focus my energy elsewhere. Try to introduce yourself when meeting people so they hear the correct pronunciation. Ignore those who get it wrong constantly, they're the fools.

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 05/11/2023 10:08

Geraint rhymes with BARE PINT
The first syllable doesn't rhyme with bare though, it's Ger, rhymes with the berr in berry. Like 'Gerra pint' without the 'a'

I've heard Juh-raint to rhyme with paint before now.

Xyyxxx · 05/11/2023 09:54

I'm with you. My name is Julia and I've been called Julie all my life. Nothing wrong with Julie, it's just not my name. I correct. If people can't even get your name right what else is wrong with them!

Nonimai · 05/11/2023 09:52

I agree with the poster who said that some people just can’t hear correctly, or maybe it is just nerves. I had a relative called Geraint. This name causes huge difficulties. Despite saying to people Geraint rhymes with BARE PINT - you still get Grant/ Grunt/ Gerant. It is as though the name trips wires in peoples brain and even otherwise clever and considered people struggle.

Triplixate · 05/11/2023 09:44

I have a relatively common name with a less common spelling. I get the more common spelling often, but when it annoys me is when someone has had to see it/click on it/type it correctly in order to write something to me and yet they still spell it wrong! In my pettiest moments, I have replied adding in the extra letter they’ve put in my name (think Allison/Alison type of thing) in their name 😇

Elaina87 · 05/11/2023 09:41

I have this problem. Elaina isn't my real name. My real name has given me issues with pronunciation all my life. I try and correct people early on but occasionally let it slide which I regret doing, because if this someone you then get to know well it becomes more awkward to correct! At this stage you probably need to introduce yourself to someone infront of that person and then they'll hear the correct pronunciation. Not that it may work. I've literally introduced myself and then that person has said my name wrong 2 seconds later.

Elaina87 · 05/11/2023 09:38

MiddleagedBeachbum · 03/11/2023 00:06

You don’t.

You just don’t let it bother you. It’s not personal.

My name is Leila. Said Lee-luh way, I’ve spent my whole life being called random Lee/Luh/Lay sounds and it really doesn’t bother me as I know people hate to get it wrong and it only discomforts them if I corrected them.

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You have every right to be called the right name! Stop worrying about causing discomfort and correct them early on!

Elaina87 · 05/11/2023 09:37

You have every right to be called the right name! Stop worrying about causing discomfort and correct them early on!

DottyLottieLou · 05/11/2023 09:10

Just start calling them the wrong name and when they say Its a not b, you say and I'm whatever.

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 04/11/2023 10:30

@Clarich007 , not Nottinum?

Clarich007 · 04/11/2023 10:27

It is annoying I agree.
It's my surname that people get wrong every time.

It's an unusual name that is also the name of a UK town.

So for example it's similar to Nottingham, but every single time they say Notting.
So I always point out the 'ham' at the end.It's only a little thing but it does become wearing multiple times a day.

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 04/11/2023 10:27

@SuePine69 , if it's their name, it's said as they say it, but insisting everyone uses that pronunciation is a bit too much. Some people have no idea that their pronunciation seems wrong to speakers of the language though.

I'd probably struggle to use the anglicised pronunciation if it was a name I was very familiar with.

SuePine69 · 04/11/2023 10:18

Some people don't know how to pronounce their names properly. I studied Indian languages so I know the difference between an aspirated and an unaspirated consonant and the difference between a dental and a retroflex consonant.

If someone has an Indian heritage and an Indian name but they have only ever spoken English they will often not know how to pronounce their own names. Yet they might insist that everyone uses their mispronunciation.

I have worked in places, many years ago, where everybody had a nickname whether they wanted one or not. Someone who introduced himself as Karl might be called Charley.

Cherrysoup · 04/11/2023 10:14

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 04/11/2023 10:12

@Cherrysoup , Hear, hear.

I go by an easily pronounceable, phonetic, diminutive and people get that wrong, and that really pisses me off, because it shows lack of care.

I shorten mine to the initials which some people use. I just dislike being called something totally different!

BridgeOverTheRiverWye · 04/11/2023 10:12

@Cherrysoup , Hear, hear.

I go by an easily pronounceable, phonetic, diminutive and people get that wrong, and that really pisses me off, because it shows lack of care.

Cherrysoup · 04/11/2023 10:06

I disagree with pp who think it’s not important In the grand scheme of things. I’ve been called the totally wrong name, had it incorrectly pronounced etc all my life because it’s double barrelled. If it’s someone I’m going to work with lots, I will correct them. I think it’s pretty important to get names right. I’m a teacher and I ask my students how I pronounce their names because it’s just lazy to not care. I have 2 Mias, one is Mee-ah, one is My-ah. It’s their name and who am I to decide how to pronounce it?

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