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… to be mad at ill colleague?

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Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:13

A colleague who ALWAYS comes in to work even when badly ill only to moan about being ill and touches every work surface going and leaves their food and drink all over the place insisted on being in work before half term started for all of us. I was sympathetic but kept my distance. However I have clearly ended up catching their horrible cold and it is wrecking my half term- I have had to cancel a few plans with friends because I don’t feel great and don’t want to risk them catching anything and I’m lacking the focus to even sit and read at home. So it feels like half a week wasted already. On top of this, I’m pregnant and having spoken to a pharmacist and midwife, there’s loads of cough medicines I can’t have. The colleague doesn’t know I’m pregnant as I haven’t said, but surely that’s not the only reason you should be mindful of others when ill, right?

I feel like I’ve been robbed of my downtime because my colleague was selfish. They have a martyr complex that many others have noted- definitely isn’t the first time they have come in when quite ill, complained about how bad they’ve felt and then been oblivious to how germs spread by not cleaning up after themselves or observing personal space.

Of course I won’t go into work next week and accuse them of ruining half term or be unprofessional towards them but AIBU for feeling mad towards them right now?

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ManateeFair · 01/11/2023 17:11

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 01/11/2023 17:04

All these MNetters who expect their colleagues not to come in with a cold when they can't work from home are quite strange.

Do they honestly think them not catching a cold is more important than their colleagues eventually losing their jobs, and possibly their homes?

Most employers are simply NOT ok with staff phoning in sick because they've got a cold.

Christ, if we all did that everything would grind to a halt and we'd all be out of work.

I would agree that a lot of people would typically be expected to work with a cold, but there are bog-standard colds and there are awful colds, and the OP's follow up posts suggest the employee has more than a bit of a sniffle. A cold can be three days of a snotty nose or it can be a week of fever, sinus pain, a painfully scabby throat, headache and a hacking cough.

The OP does say in her follow up posts that she understands people need to come in with a cold sometimes but it's more the lack of hygiene that's the problem. Yes, people might need to come in with a bit of a cold - but there's no excuse for leaving snotty tissues lying around and touching everything with hands you've just sneezed into, etc.

Whataretheodds · 01/11/2023 17:10

You're only being unreasonable not to raise it with your manager.

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 01/11/2023 17:10

OP, when your own child starts nursery and brings home bug after bug, are you going to phone in sick every single time they pass it onto you?

How would your school manage if all teachers rang in with a cold?

Multipleexclamationmarks · 01/11/2023 17:08

You work in a school, surely lots of the kids have colds too.
Rank leaving snotty tissues everywhere though.

LaurieStrode · 01/11/2023 17:07

I don't blame you. My manager has three young kids and is constantly dragging their germs into the office. We are fed up
and most have resumed masking.

LorW · 01/11/2023 17:06

to be honest, most people can’t afford to not go into work when they have a cold. Where I work we don’t get paid sick at all so if you are off unwell your pay is docked unless you use holidays. I imagine it’s the same with a lot of places.

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 17:06

ManateeFair · 01/11/2023 17:03

Yes, but if her colleague wasn't a complete twat she'd be pregnant and wouldn't have a cold, which I think we can all agree is preferable.

It's fucking annoying when someone else's unnecessary actions have a negative impact on other people, regardless of pregnancy.

Rubbish, the OP does not know who she caught a cold from in a school with literally hundreds of people.

Having said that, the OP needs to report the snotty tissues etc being left around.

Londonlondon4 · 01/11/2023 17:05

Get signed off for a few days next week, so you can fully recover.

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 17:04

@WhateverMate totally appreciate it could have been from anyone but my symptoms are the same as theirs, which is veering towards chest infection rather than a cold. Being in the same dept, we cross a lot. Most of us do Dettol spaces where we eat but they do not, and we also keep space when talking to each other, cover mouths when coughing etc but they do not. As someone mentioned earlier, some have learnt nothing from covid. I know some schools can be toxic about taking days off. Luckily our school is not one of those places and more than one of us had suggested this colleague go home and we would sort cover!

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YabbaDabbaDooooo · 01/11/2023 17:04

All these MNetters who expect their colleagues not to come in with a cold when they can't work from home are quite strange.

Do they honestly think them not catching a cold is more important than their colleagues eventually losing their jobs, and possibly their homes?

Most employers are simply NOT ok with staff phoning in sick because they've got a cold.

Christ, if we all did that everything would grind to a halt and we'd all be out of work.

ManateeFair · 01/11/2023 17:03

Guiltyfeethavegotnorhythm0 · 01/11/2023 16:30

You're pregnant and have a cold 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Yes, but if her colleague wasn't a complete twat she'd be pregnant and wouldn't have a cold, which I think we can all agree is preferable.

It's fucking annoying when someone else's unnecessary actions have a negative impact on other people, regardless of pregnancy.

Hercisback · 01/11/2023 16:59

You work in a school, there's infectious people everywhere with all sorts of things. Working in a school you'll know the impact of being off, funding and setting cover.

CremeEggThief · 01/11/2023 16:56

I don't blame you at all for being annoyed, but the real problem is management not enforcing guidelines, and then you get these martyr types trying to lord it over everyone else and acting as if the place of work falls apart without them!🙄
They are usually nowhere near as ill in themselves as they claim, but then spread everything to everyone else and some of us with weaker or compromised immune systems end up really ill!😡

CharlotteBog · 01/11/2023 16:56

I blamed my boss for giving me his cold.
We both WFH 12 miles apart 😃
In fact it was my teenager. He was wiped out for a couple of days. I'm on week 2 of the snots. Little sod.

CharlotteBog · 01/11/2023 16:53

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:51

@Guiltyfeethavegotnorhythm0 correct 😆tbh being pregnant was just another detail to add to why I feel mad. I don’t expect special treatment and I haven’t told them anyway. Just thought it would be decent to not wipe a drippy nose on tissue that then leave it about in shared spaces, all the while moaning they are ill!

That's gross and I would certainly tell them to put it in the bin.

MrsPinkSky · 01/11/2023 16:53

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:51

@Guiltyfeethavegotnorhythm0 correct 😆tbh being pregnant was just another detail to add to why I feel mad. I don’t expect special treatment and I haven’t told them anyway. Just thought it would be decent to not wipe a drippy nose on tissue that then leave it about in shared spaces, all the while moaning they are ill!

Yuk! I hope you actually pulled them up on this?

If not, speak to your line manager and get them to send a reminder out.

CharlotteBog · 01/11/2023 16:53

No one should be going into work when badly ill. But a common cold doesn't usually render people unable to work.
That said, if you do go to work with a cold (like most of us do) then it's good practice to be extra vigilant with your hygiene. Leaving food and drink lying about is shabby, why are they doing that?

You are probably feeling it worse because you are pregnant (congratulations).

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:51

@Guiltyfeethavegotnorhythm0 correct 😆tbh being pregnant was just another detail to add to why I feel mad. I don’t expect special treatment and I haven’t told them anyway. Just thought it would be decent to not wipe a drippy nose on tissue that then leave it about in shared spaces, all the while moaning they are ill!

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WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 16:51

X posted, sorry.

Yes they should be more hygienic although I'm sure you also kept away from them and sanitized your hands and workspace, which didn't stop you catching it.

But I don't think you should be berating staff for going to work ill, when the SLT leaves them little choice.

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 16:49

You say it's wrecking your half-term.

Does this mean you're a teacher/TA?

Because if so, you literally could've caught it from anyone in that school and also, most SLTs don't take too kindly to their staff ringing in with a cold.

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:47

@WhateverMate we work in a school so no chance of WFH. Totally understand no-one can outrun a common cold but I just think they either should have maintained basic hygiene (leaving dirty stuff everywhere and not washing hands, ick) and kept their distance if they’d insisted on coming in. But they were too ill to work and made sure everyone knew it!

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AngeloMysterioso · 01/11/2023 16:44

I can’t stand it when ill colleagues drag themselves into work and make everyone else sick, but more often than not it’s the result of a presenteeism office culture which demands staff come in unless they’re literally at death’s door and punishes them for being unwell with docked pay and/or disciplinary action. If yours isn’t one of those companies than YANBU.

MidnightOnceMore · 01/11/2023 16:43

YANBU and next time they do it you can ask them to keep their distance.

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:43

@zelda10 get well soon!

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tattygrl · 01/11/2023 16:41

Coming in to work when sick is so, so selfish. The vast majority of us do not need to force ourselves into work at any cost when sick, the company will not implode. It's martyr-ish and self-absorbed. I especially can't stand when people seem to take a sort of pride in coming in sick, making comments like "if my legs work, I'm coming in to work". Like... good for you but what about everyone else who is now going to come into contact with your germs?! Illness affects people differently, too. What is mild and harmless for one person can be serious for another. So selfish.

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