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… to be mad at ill colleague?

133 replies

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 16:13

A colleague who ALWAYS comes in to work even when badly ill only to moan about being ill and touches every work surface going and leaves their food and drink all over the place insisted on being in work before half term started for all of us. I was sympathetic but kept my distance. However I have clearly ended up catching their horrible cold and it is wrecking my half term- I have had to cancel a few plans with friends because I don’t feel great and don’t want to risk them catching anything and I’m lacking the focus to even sit and read at home. So it feels like half a week wasted already. On top of this, I’m pregnant and having spoken to a pharmacist and midwife, there’s loads of cough medicines I can’t have. The colleague doesn’t know I’m pregnant as I haven’t said, but surely that’s not the only reason you should be mindful of others when ill, right?

I feel like I’ve been robbed of my downtime because my colleague was selfish. They have a martyr complex that many others have noted- definitely isn’t the first time they have come in when quite ill, complained about how bad they’ve felt and then been oblivious to how germs spread by not cleaning up after themselves or observing personal space.

Of course I won’t go into work next week and accuse them of ruining half term or be unprofessional towards them but AIBU for feeling mad towards them right now?

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Hippomumma · 01/11/2023 19:48

YANBU - this sort of thing drives me nuts. I say this as a family of 4 who are all sitting with a horrid cold and cough caught from a similarly selfish person. One DC only 3 months and he has had covid and now this - he’s hardly been out and about really but catches from others in the house of course. Hate it.

Cantstopcoughing · 01/11/2023 19:48

It’s really hard. Dh is still isolating due to severe health issues. I’m still being ultra careful about certain things I go to. I was slated recently for not going to a regular main meeting of 40 people in a very unventilated room, bearing in mind this is a hobby I was a lot 😳😳😳😳😳. I run a lot of the said hobby from home and am not needed to attend main meetings, I have an assistant who is at the meetings to be my eye and ears.

no one wants my job and to do what I do for the group but I can’t get over the fact that a few think I should put DH’s life at risk.

CowboyJoanna · 01/11/2023 19:44

I get your frustration but its normal to come to work with a cold or flu. Different if its COVID or something lifethreatening but exposure to common bugs is what strengthens your immune system. You wouldnt be so healthy if you sheltered yourself from everyone whenever they had the slightest sniffly nose.

Kitkat2065 · 01/11/2023 19:37

Robitussin cough medicine, the sugar free stuff was recommended to me as I had GD to.

LickChit · 01/11/2023 19:35

You can’t take time off in a school because you’ve got a cold. I’m a fairly healthy and fit person, but I’ve got my third cold of the year. If I took time off for all three colds I’d be close to triggering a disciplinary. I’d also be massively letting my colleagues down, who would have to pick up the slack.

You stay at home if you are too ill to work in schools. Your colleague was able to work so she came in.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 01/11/2023 19:31

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 01/11/2023 19:26

Lol at all the people on here that state they know exactly who infected them........ (Im sorry that you are ill though)

Exactly!!! The very obviously sick people should be the easiest to avoid - it's the strangers you pass on the street or stand in the queues that are the danger.

Mariposista · 01/11/2023 19:31

You work in a school but yet you are precious about illness? Sorry but schools are an absolute melting pot of germs. And not many headteachers or heads of dept would take kindly to a teacher/employee being off with just the sniffles, so your colleague did right by coming in. Shouldn't be whinging about it though. Where has the 'keep calm and carry on' attitude gone?

Freshstart78 · 01/11/2023 19:30

Tbh I have been ill for near exclusively 6 weeks. Toddler super spreader has ensured we are all permanently ill (think he’s picking up from others with siblings that have returned to school). It’s currently chaos for germs.

So yes I would love to sit at home. I really would. But then I would be sacked.

LilyThePinksDealer · 01/11/2023 19:29

Wow is me brigade neads an injection in the arse.
I had 8 hours of Miss Sniffy Sniffing every 20seconds. Oh I don't feel well every 15 mins - well fuck off and either be off sick or WFH

zelda10 · 01/11/2023 19:28

mokjkjjo · 01/11/2023 18:52

I’m surprised at lots of these replies. I haven’t worked in an office since covid, but pre covid, in any office I worked in it would be frowned upon to call in sick due to having a cold. You were expected in unless you couldn’t get out of bed, and when people called in sick with ‘flu’ you’d often hear managers commenting that they didn’t sound that ill etc. There were always ill people in. You’d also get a disciplinary for more than two periods of sickness in a certain length of time, no matter how severe the illness. Things must have changed!

Yes of course things have changed! Employees are no longer required to test for Covid, for example. Loads of people only have mild cold symptoms with Covid, but could unwittingly pass it on to someone else and knock them off their feet for a month. It’s just much more considerate to stay at home when you’re unwell (where possible, of course). I’m forever encountering people at work who brag about their clean sickness records and act the martyr by coming in sick / berate others for not doing. It’s just selfish and irresponsible.

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 01/11/2023 19:26

Lol at all the people on here that state they know exactly who infected them........ (Im sorry that you are ill though)

Doingtheboxerbeat · 01/11/2023 19:20

So I think we can all agree that the workplace is a mixture of selfish workers, martyrs, horrendous management and people desperate not to lose their jobs or money.
I think there is privilege showing.

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 19:17

@ShowOfHands it’s hard isn’t it. So many pressures and deadlines and the guilt when you’re not in is awful. That’s why we worked on cover booklets to ensure they would be appropriate for a few days in case of non-specialist supply because we’ve all been there.

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ttcat37 · 01/11/2023 19:14

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 19:08

There's no endless pot of money to cover teachers every time they get a cold.

Plus, if they sent the kids home every time they had a cold then the parents would have to leave work and go home too.

At my school other teachers covered when teachers were off sick. Even the head would get stuck in.

Livelovebehappy · 01/11/2023 19:13

You could have caught it from anyone. Everything you touch, from doors, supermarket trollies, sat next to someone in a cafe or on a bus. There’s loads of colds and viruses doing the rounds atm.

5128gap · 01/11/2023 19:09

I have a rotten cold this week. None of the people I came into contact with prior to this appeared to have a cold. No one on my train last week was coughing or sneezing. I haven't sat near a solicitor on a plane. I'm fuming that my week has been ruined and I have absolutely no idea who to call selfish, be disgusted with or report to their employer. I intend to find out though, and will start a thread about it as soon as i do!

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 19:08

ttcat37 · 01/11/2023 19:02

Or other teachers or supply teachers cover the lessons. I’d rather that than the kids get and pass it on to everyone else.

There's no endless pot of money to cover teachers every time they get a cold.

Plus, if they sent the kids home every time they had a cold then the parents would have to leave work and go home too.

Violinist64 · 01/11/2023 19:07

There are colds and colds. Most are of the feeling under the weather but able to carry on variety. The op would appear to have a particularly nasty, debilitating virus which her colleague had last week. How does anyone know that it is not Covid? The colleague should have stayed at home for a day or two to get over the worst of it and not to spread their germs to everyone else. I doubt that they were able to produce their best work in any case. The martyr is a particularly annoying type of person. They come in, coughing and spluttering over everyone; all with a pained expression on their face and a weak voice, expecting everyone to say what a brave little soldier they are. It is far better for everyone for this person to have a couple of days off work rather than infecting their colleagues meaning that half the workforce is too ill to perform their jobs properly. Nearly twenty years ago now I was in a waiting room for a non-urgent clinic, the appointments for which were all made well in advance. A woman arrived in a terrible state, shivering, coughing, spluttering and obviously quite unwell. She was in the martyr category as she explained that she had come down with flu and had been awake and suffering most of the previous night but could not possibly miss her appointment. It was proper flu and not a cold. I came out with it two days later and had to cancel a week’s work which, as I was self-employed, I was not happy about. So selfish and unnecessary.

Rewindthefilm · 01/11/2023 19:06

@WhateverMate yes of course. I think I needed to clarify earlier on that this was more than a case of bad sniffles. However, if someone did ring in enough times with a case of sniffles, that would be looked into as would repeated chest infections- likely support from OH given. Can’t be reprimanded for being genuinely too ill to work! Not a case of “snap out of it and get into work “ etc. Ironically this colleague hasn’t had a day off sick until the day they got sent home, and have behaved like this before where others have gotten sick after and had to take at least a day off!

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ExTheCheater · 01/11/2023 19:05

Yabu its just a cold.

ttcat37 · 01/11/2023 19:02

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 18:56

It's a good job most schools aren't like this, otherwise you'd spend more time at home with your DC than you would at work.

Or other teachers or supply teachers cover the lessons. I’d rather that than the kids get and pass it on to everyone else.

Rosebel · 01/11/2023 19:01

Well some places insist their staff come in with D&V. No wonder I'm looking for a new job.

WhateverMate · 01/11/2023 18:56

ttcat37 · 01/11/2023 18:41

YANBU. Going to work when ill is massively antisocial. It’s not welcome in my workplace thankfully. If you turn up with a cold you get sent home. Nobody wants anybody else’s minging germs!

It's a good job most schools aren't like this, otherwise you'd spend more time at home with your DC than you would at work.

LlynTegid · 01/11/2023 18:55

You should not stay silent. Many children are looked after at some point by grandparents who may be older people and/or clinically vulnerable. It it not just you who is affected.

YoungMacdonaldhadafarm · 01/11/2023 18:54

Coming in to work when sick is so, so selfish. The vast majority of us do not need to force ourselves into work at any cost when sick, the company will not implode. It's martyr-ish and self-absorbed. I especially can't stand when people seem to take a sort of pride in coming in sick, making comments like "if my legs work, I'm coming in to work". Like... good for you but what about everyone else who is now going to come into contact with your germs?! Illness affects people differently, too. What is mild and harmless for one person can be serious for another. So selfish.

If the 'vast majority' of us don't need to go into work , I'd say the vast majority are very lucky. I work in the public sector , and there are triggers that could put you various sickness processes , that could lead to dismissal. I've only recently started a new job so I have to drag myself in even if I am unwell with a cold or even worse. I don't want to, and I don't like to either, but I have no choice. I'd rather that than getting grief from hr and their policies and potentially failing my probation. Don't blame the employee , blame the sickness procedures and policies. Until recently support staff who work in school didn't get paid for the first two days of sickness. Thankfully following union vote, this will change from 1st November. If an employee has to decide between getting paid or spreading germs of course they'll decide to come in and get paid. If they weren't been penalised for not coming in , I am sure they'll gladly stay at home.

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