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To think someone must be able to do something - part 3

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PurpleLampShades · 01/11/2023 09:09

I never thought I’d be needing to start a third thread but here we are. The first two threads have been a great source of support for me so I’m going to carry on.

First Thread
Second Thread

Long story short - DS (17) has been in a “relationship” with a woman 11 years older than him that I believe started when he was 15, though I have no proof as they deny it. This has been going on since at least March 2022. SS, the police and the DSL at his college have all been involved and things from that front have been pretty much exhausted. He has been on CIN and early intervention plans, been visited/spoken to by the police, offered workshops, counselling, contact centre etc. The main stumbling blocks are DS’s refusal/inability to recognise the abusive and toxic situation he is in and the resulting refusal to engage with services to extract him from it.
She is abusive, manipulative and extremely controlling. She has isolated him almost entirely from friends, family and hobbies. She is destroying his self esteem, confidence and self-worth. She controls his phone, who he speaks to, where he goes, what he does. I know she has slapped him around the face more than once and was seen to put her hand around his throat while they were kissing once. I don’t know if there are other incidents like that. The remaining protective factor is that he is still managing to attend college, although attendance is a bit of a concern.

I am at the point of not really knowing what to do now. I feel like I’ve lost him.

OP posts:
Thedogscollar · 02/07/2024 23:16

@PurpleLampShades
He came to you in his time of need.
He knew he would be safe and loved.
He knew he wouldn't be judged.
He knows he can rely on you.
You are his Mum.
You will never ever give up on him.
He just knows.

You have been unbelievably brave throughout the months that have gone. You will both get through this. My admiration for your actions throughout are immense. I remember reading the very first post and my heart went out to you. Keep going purple 💜 x

Mielbee · 02/07/2024 21:40

I've just read every one of your posts from beginning to end and I'm so sorry for what you and your son have been through and are still going through. It is heartbreaking. I am thinking of you both and hoping so much that he comes back to you soon. You are still his safe space - well done for your hard work on this, the times you have restrained yourself and bitten your tongue have paid off. You did exactly the right thing.

reallyalurker · 02/07/2024 21:40

Hi, I haven't read the whole thread, but have read all your posts, OP. I wanted to tell you about my own experience of being in an abusive relationship at 18, with someone who separated me from my family. I never stopped thinking about them despite hearing from my partner that they didn't care about me and that I shouldn't care about them. It lasted two years before I was frightened enough to escape and go back to my family. I'm very grateful that my family and I managed to repair things and are close again. Your love for your DS and your pain are so apparent. It sounds as if you are doing all the right things, and it also sounds as if things are falling apart in your DS's relationship - sounds like a possible extinction burst. Wishing all the best for you and your DS.

ChickenDeChick · 02/07/2024 21:22

Heartbreaking as it must have been purple to see him like that and for him to go again I really do think this is a massive step forwards. You did absolutely everything right, showing him that unconditional love in his safe home. He will always know he can come to you Flowers

PurpleLampShades · 02/07/2024 21:18

Oh thank you everyone. I didn’t realise quite how much I needed someone to say how I did things was ok. Bit emotional again now. But feeling better about it. It is a positive that he came here, absolutely. I don’t really know what he’s doing with his time as I’ve not really managed to get to speak to him about that. I really hope you are right that this might be the beginning of the end for their relationship, if you can call it that. Thanks again.

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grumpygrape · 02/07/2024 21:13

Dear Purple, I’ve only stumbled on your story today and skimmed through your posts but fully support PPs who have said you did the right thing.

If they had a row, this might be the beginning of the end despite him going back but it must mean he did oppose her for a while. You have shown you are there for him and he has shown he will trust you and come to you when he needs help.

Keep taking the deep breaths and take support where you can.

Inthebleakmidwinter2 · 02/07/2024 21:07

You must be so worried purple, but you've shown him unconditional love which he will remember.
If he's still involved with any services I'd update them and tell them what happened, other than that I agree with others it sounds like you handled it so well.

surreygirl1987 · 02/07/2024 20:59

You were perfect. He trusted you enough to come to you and now he will trust you even more - he needed you and you were his mother. Sray strong xx

Incakewetrust · 02/07/2024 20:47

I agree with what others have said. You did everything right and just confirmed that you are his safe space.
Sending you a massive hug!

longtompot · 02/07/2024 20:30

I would take from this he knows in his heart you are there. You didn't ask any more of what he was prepared or able to give, you just were there for him. He will have that for when she is being nasty to him, to know she isn't right about everything 💜

Purplebunnie · 02/07/2024 19:43

I don't think you should have done anything different to what you did.

He knows he can come and go now, without censure. He will be back, maybe not permanently next time, but he will be back

Spaghettily · 02/07/2024 19:39

Itwasntme101 · 02/07/2024 19:36

Hi Purple, I think you did everything right, you reaffirmed that home is a safe place for him x

I was just about to type exactly this. Well done. He now knows for sure he can come back to safety without judgement and receive love and care. I hope he manages to break free soon.

Itwasntme101 · 02/07/2024 19:36

Hi Purple, I think you did everything right, you reaffirmed that home is a safe place for him x

humpty74 · 02/07/2024 19:26

Another thought... By going to sleep you showed you trusted him. You weren't monitoring his movements and you don't plague him with millions of missed calls. He got up and was able to do what he wanted. You will have reminded him what is waiting for him when he's become strong enough to leave her.

Hickry · 02/07/2024 19:22

Oh Purple. 😔

I'm sorry he went back. I'm so glad he came though. It shows he trusts you and knows you are there for him.

If you ever get a similar situation again where you are alone with him at all, one thing I would say is tell him there is nothing anyone could say or do that would stop you loving him. Not in the context of if they break up, just in general.

My son came to me this week with something minor in comparison but he was so relieved he'd come to me and I reiterated he can come to me anytime with anything. Nothing him or anyone else could do or say would change that.

Sometimes abusers threaten to tell the victim's loved ones dark secrets they have told during the love bombing stage, or moans they have said in confidence, or they threaten to ruin a loved one's life or security etc if the victim leaves. The victim then stays as even the thought of their one safe person being hurt (even emotionally) is more than they can bare. 😔

Is he just at home now? Has he got a job?? I'm just wondering if there's any chance of coming across him like you were able to at college that time.

Also: what is your local police force's stance on domestic violence? Mine at one point, I'm not sure if they still do, had a zero tolerance policy and they didn't need the victim's permission to prosecute. This might be something to look into for future reference. Or even for this incident but that is something to mull over.

NikKai · 02/07/2024 19:18

PurpleLampShades · 02/07/2024 17:29

Hello. Well, I thought I might have some good news to share with you all at the weekend but things never work out the way you want them to do they? I feel like I should have posted on here at the time to get some advice about how to approach it, and I’m absolutely kicking myself now that I didn’t, because perhaps someone may have suggested something that might have worked.

But anyway, things were relatively quiet for several weeks. Nothing really happening, no more incidents that I know of. I spoke to him briefly twice on the phone but I think I was on speakerphone and/or she was listening as he wasn’t very talkative and I didn’t feel I could really talk to him or ask him anything.

Then this weekend he turned up at the house on Friday night. It must have been about 1am. I was in bed but luckily still awake, as is usual for me these days, for this very reason though - In case he turned up here or phoned me. He was in a state, emotional, teary, but very quiet. Didn’t want to talk, didn’t want to answer any questions, but we sat together on the sofa with the tv on and I gave him a cuddle. I cannot tell you how good it felt to properly hug my little boy again but also how much it broke my heart. You know how it feels when your child is distressed and they cling on to you for comfort? That’s what it was. We sat like that for a long while then I put him to bed in his room and he fell asleep, out like a light. When I went to check on him a while later I saw he had bruises/marks on his neck and his phone lit up while I was in there - 63 missed calls.

I went to bed thinking I would stay awake just in case but stupidly ended up falling asleep - I should have stayed in the lounge - and when I woke up he had gone back to her. He left a little note saying sorry and thank you, they had an argument but they’ve made up now and he hopes to see me soon. That was on Saturday but I haven’t heard from him since. I just don’t understand what happened nor why he would go back. Though I suppose they do say it takes seven attempts to leave don’t they? Maybe that was the first try? Sorry it’s not better news.

I'm so sorry. My son is only 1, but the idea of seeing my boy with bruises at the hands of someone else makes me feel sick and equally want to scream my head off in rage.

I think you're doing much much better than you're giving yourself credit for. I know I wouldn't be that restrained and calm, and that's what your son needs and that's what you're being. He wouldn't come to you if you weren't his absolute safe space. That's all you can be for him right now. And all he needs from you right now.

It'll be hard not to beat yourself up, but try not to. You fell asleep, you didn't do anything bad. You're suffering too and you matter too. You need to be able to sleep and have feelings and look after you- so you can be strong for him.

I also think if you had stayed awake, or slept nearby or whatever, it would have been worse. Imagine you're exhausted and stressed to the max. Then he wants to go back. How do you think that would have gone? Not well I imagine. This is a blessing in disguise, only in the sense that this way now, it has been left at you being his safe space still. He has those memories of his mummy cuddling him and being calm and safe. Rather than the mental and emotional gymnastics of him wanting to go back (feeling like he has to rather than true want) and having to get past your feelings on the matter. As awful as that sounds! And if that makes sense. He knows his mum is there.

You're doing wonderful

Wizzadorra70 · 02/07/2024 19:00

You did EVERYTHING right here, although it probably doesn't feel like it. You didn't bad mouth her, you didn't push him, you just let him be where he needed to be. He knew exactly where he wanted to be. And one day, he will want to be free from her but he's not there yet.

L1ttledrummergirl · 02/07/2024 18:42

If he has a social worker, or police liason, then let them know what happened. They might do a welfare check.

You were perfect.Flowers

notapizzaeater · 02/07/2024 18:03

I agree with everyone else, you didn't quiz him or judge him just loved him and he will remember that in his darkest days and slowly he will get stronger

HateMyselfToo · 02/07/2024 18:01

I don't think there was anything you could have done better for him than what you did. You opened the door, welcomed him in, and held and comforted him, all without fanfare and drama. Quietly doing that and then putting him to bed was what he needed, and he will remember that more than anything.

This.

I'm sorry you had to see him like that, but take hope from the fact that he came to you.x.

humpty74 · 02/07/2024 18:00

She pushed him further than he would take, he came to you and you were perfect. He knows he can come back to you. Any headway she might have made with poisoning him against you is undone, just like that. I'm hopeful that he's breaking free.

Fannyfiggs · 02/07/2024 17:52

Peridot1 · 02/07/2024 17:41

Oh God Purple. Your poor boy. That is so heartbreaking.

BUT. He came to you. You are his safe space.

This exactly. He knows he can come to you.

But I'm sorry it's not a better situation for you and your son. It's just a waiting game now but he knows you're there for him.

Justalittlebitfurther · 02/07/2024 17:41

Oh @PurpleLampShades I feel so sad for you both. Can you ring and ask the police to do an anonymous welfare check due to the bruises? I’m not sure if that’s the right thing to suggest - hopefully someone will be along soon with better advice 💐💐

Peridot1 · 02/07/2024 17:41

Oh God Purple. Your poor boy. That is so heartbreaking.

BUT. He came to you. You are his safe space.

REP22 · 02/07/2024 17:41

@PurpleLampShades Oh bless you. I'm so sorry. Glad that you saw him and were able to hold him, but sorry for what you witnessed and that he's gone back to her. Are you able to report to the Police or a Social/Support Worker what you witnessed on his body and phone? Just so it's on record.

Other than that, I don't think there was anything you could have done better for him than what you did. You opened the door, welcomed him in, and held and comforted him, all without fanfare and drama. Quietly doing that and then putting him to bed was what he needed, and he will remember that more than anything. Don't blame yourself for falling asleep - you needed your rest and, even if you had remained awake, I believe he would still have gone back to her - and it may have resulted in angry words at parting. You were amazing.

I hope this is indeed the first step in a path back to happiness for you both. Sending much love. xx

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