Is Vaping a lot more safe than cigarettes?

Guy in front of me just before Christmas bought 200 fags it cost him £235, i nearly fainted.

I started vaping over a year ago. I can go a week without one (but it’s hard). Really want to stop cos I’m so scared of what I’m doing to my body.

Cigarettes were easier to stop.

I did also get the dirty windscreen a pp said about.

I always have my vape in my hand when I drive. I have no issues at all with any residue or steam, certainly not to any noticeable degree. I absolutely don't need to clean anything from the windows.

I've also vaped in this one spot at home for years now. I've just run my finger over the wall behind me - it's spotless.

I don't doubt there's some particle residue about the place, but sticky gunk? Sorry, no.

But 100% more dangerous than not vaping.

Mmm, papers are reporting that Danan recently was hospitalised as a result of vaping, and has sadly died, but also that he has a long, and recent, history of cocaine and cannabis use - so much so he was due in court today on drugs and driving charges.

I suspect the obsessive use of anything, plus a long history of smoking and snorting drugs has more to do with it than just the vape! But lets not let common sense or facts get in the way of a headline eh!

Today there is the sad news that actor Paul Danan (Hollyoaks) has dies from lung complications caused by "excessive vaping". He was 46.

They say it's better however my uncle used to vape but had never smoked and he didn't half have a smokers cough.

The sheer cost of fags means it’s impossible to have more than a couple a day - I doubt there are 20 a day faggers any more. On balance I’d say a vaping is probably worse if you’re hitting it hard.

I mean I imagine they've picked them up
Off the floor, out a bin in the home, from a pocket.. not that people are actually giving them vapes

If you want to see what kind of shite vaping is leaving in your lungs go to a friend who vapes in the car. Then wipe your finger on the inside of the windscreen and see what comes off.

A family member was complaining about their car always steaming up regardless of temp and air con blaring. Blamed it on everything except the vaping. Only when he got a new windscreen fitted did he realise his windscreen (and lungs) were coated in a sticky film of gunk that didnt shift.

I hate to think of the mess these people are going to be in the future. But dont worry, nothing has been proven yet......

Vaping makes me cough uncontrollably. Smoking doesn't. I've really tried to switch to vapes.

ZOMBIE thread

I'd urge any cigarette smoker to make the switch. The sooner you ditch the cigs for good, the better. Refillable pens are freely available, nobody needs to rely on disposables. Best case scenario, your health will improve. Worst case is early death which would have happened anyway because of the cigs. Either way, you'll have more money.

Have just read NHS England had 11 Nursery age children admitted to hospital in 2023 due to using vapes. Who the fuck gives a toddler vapes ?

Of course it is.

I guarantee you in 10 years that statistic will be vastly different.

Quite a statement, based on what?

Genuinely interested, which studies are you referring to?

For starters, you don't 'burn' anything.

I think when it comes to vaping vs smoking, it’s not an easy call. Sure, vaping doesn’t have the same harmful chemicals as cigarettes, so it’s probably safer in the short term. But there’s still a lot we don’t know. We don’t have long-term studies yet, and there’s a chance things could change as more research comes in. I think in 10 years, like you said, we might see a different picture, depending on what new data comes out. I’d say if you're trying to quit smoking, for e-cigarettes might help, but the safest bet is always to quit both if possible.

At the moment with the available evidence to date. I guarantee you in 10 years that statistic will be vastly different.

Except many of the tobacco companies develop and sell vapes.
https://tobaccotactics.org/article/e-cigarettes/

My view, which is not based on science, is that your lungs are delicate organs to remove oxygen from the air. They have to deal with enough crap in the air they take in, from car fumes, cooking fumes, artificial air fresheners et al, that to add to that deliberately either through smoking or vaping is not worth the risk. We have had one of our parents have a hellish last 20 years of his life, ruined by smoking, we have another friend who, in his mid 70s, has just been diagnosed with a lung disease that severely restricts him even walking from one room to the next, my brother died from a lung cancer, the lungs are too vital for life to risk on pumping sweet flavoured steam into them. Vaping may not be as dangerous as smoking, but I wouldn't take the risk.

From what I've read recently, vaping is generally considered less harmful than smoking traditional cigarettes, but it's not without its own risks. As for "popcorn lung," that was mostly linked to a chemical called diacetyl found in some e-liquids, but most reputable brands have stopped using it. So, the risk is pretty low nowadays.
My cousin switched to vaping a couple of years ago. He used to smoke like a chimney and was always out of breath. After switching, he's noticed a significant improvement in his lung capacity and overall health. He swears by fenixth8, says their products are top-notch and have helped him cut down his nicotine intake gradually.

Here’s the deal with vaping vs. cigarettes. I think vaping can be seen as a safer option compared to smoking ciggies. Vape stuff doesn’t have all those nasty chemicals like tar and carbon monoxide, which are the real troublemakers in cigs. But it’s not like vaping is risk-free either. Some studies say it might still mess with your lungs, especially if you go overboard with it. Plus, there's still lots we don't know about the long-term effects. So, if you’re thinking about switching, it’s worth checking out a decent Vape Shop and maybe talking to someone who knows their stuff.

Public Health England estimate about 5% as harmful as smoking.