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HazardLights · 26/10/2023 07:11

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:58

Start by telling us who the patriarchy is. Actually name the groups of people this refers to and explain how they force women (i.e. remove all choice) to dress in a sexualised way. In 21st century Britain.

Then explain how the industries which promote beauty and looks are all dominated by women yet ‘the patriarchy’ (whoever these people are) is still forcing women to dress a certain way.

Because it seems to me that fashion and beauty is something that women really enjoy (and increasingly men too - male grooming is huge right now), and there’s no bullshit conspiracy at play that is forcing women to spend time and money on clothes and make-up. We choose to do this because we ENJOY it.

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Perhaps someone will be along to bow to your demands before I get home from work and have time on where to start on this one.

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 07:10

Unusualactualname · 26/10/2023 07:09

The notion of people not believing in the patriarchy is far more terrifying than scrunch bum leggins.

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Wait, did you hear the earth is flat?!

Unusualactualname · 26/10/2023 07:09

shockwaze · 26/10/2023 07:07

I don't believe in the patriarchy by the way

The notion of people not believing in the patriarchy is far more terrifying than scrunch bum leggins.

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shockwaze · 26/10/2023 07:07

I don't believe in the patriarchy by the way

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Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:58

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:52

Oh, were you actually serious? You want me to explain the concept of a patriarchal society and why we live in one today? How much time do you have? I think there are better mediums to be honest.

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Start by telling us who the patriarchy is. Actually name the groups of people this refers to and explain how they force women (i.e. remove all choice) to dress in a sexualised way. In 21st century Britain.

Then explain how the industries which promote beauty and looks are all dominated by women yet ‘the patriarchy’ (whoever these people are) is still forcing women to dress a certain way.

Because it seems to me that fashion and beauty is something that women really enjoy (and increasingly men too - male grooming is huge right now), and there’s no bullshit conspiracy at play that is forcing women to spend time and money on clothes and make-up. We choose to do this because we ENJOY it.

femfemlicious · 26/10/2023 06:53

PrintersCourt · 25/10/2023 20:38

So are those bloody tiny shorts that are frankly about the same size as my actual underwear. I have no desire to see a teenage girl’s arse when I’m queuing for a coffee 😳

They actually position the shorts to make surebthe exact shape of their vulva shows. I really don't understand where all this is coming from 😭

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:52

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:49

Brilliant argument. Well done.

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Oh, were you actually serious? You want me to explain the concept of a patriarchal society and why we live in one today? How much time do you have? I think there are better mediums to be honest.

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:49

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:49

Haha.

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Brilliant argument. Well done.

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:49

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:47

Serious question: who the fuck is ‘the patriarchy’? Who is it that’s forcing us to objectify ourselves and dress a certain way?

As I point out upthread, most fashion designers, clothes makers, make-up artists, beauty entrepreneurs, aesthetic doctors, beauty & fashion marketing executives, fashion magazine editors are women.

It’s women who are enabling women to objectify themselves. Why? Because most women derive joy and satisfaction from fashion and beauty, and experimenting with their looks.

(But I guess ALL the women who dominate these industries must be suffering from ‘internalised misogyny’, right? 😂)

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Haha.

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:47

We-ell, it no longer seems to be ok to hunt or sacrifice each other, or do myriad other things that we’ve ‘always’ done. So clearly something else is at play. Perrhaps you read up on how power structures enforce and replicate themselves?

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:47

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:40

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy - does anyone? It’s not a secret. We live in a patriarchal society. It’s not breaking news.

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Serious question: who the fuck is ‘the patriarchy’? Who is it that’s forcing us to objectify ourselves and dress a certain way?

As I point out upthread, most fashion designers, clothes makers, make-up artists, beauty entrepreneurs, aesthetic doctors, beauty & fashion marketing executives, fashion magazine editors are women.

It’s women who are enabling women to objectify themselves. Why? Because most women derive joy and satisfaction from fashion and beauty, and experimenting with their looks.

(But I guess ALL the women who dominate these industries must be suffering from ‘internalised misogyny’, right? 😂)

ElizaWinter · 26/10/2023 06:42

MolkosTeenageAngst · 25/10/2023 22:10

I think they look awful. Will the next trend be extending the ‘scrunch’ seam to show off your camel toe as well as your arse crack?

I wondered this too. It's surely just a matter of time if it hasn't already been invented.

Conkersinautumn · 26/10/2023 06:41

(That isn't shaming, if you want to follow the attest trend for swxual signalling I don't really care). They make me chortle though, I'm childish about seeing someone's arse.

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:41

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:39

It’s just internalised misogyny @Usernamen

Which came first, the patriarchy or the self-objectification - I wonder eh? It’s a mystery.

Internalised misogyny 😂

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:40

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:30

this attitude is so laughable. These things don’t happen in a vacuum. You think girls randomly choose to objectify themselves - look at the world around you.

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Where did I say it was ‘random’? It isn’t random. Young women have sought attention from men and other women through their looks since time began - read up on evolutionary biology.

Conkersinautumn · 26/10/2023 06:40

I innocently thought the point was also "I'm not wearing underwear" leggings clearly show vpl and perhaps for some they wanted to really emphasise that. But yes, I hadn't considered this as advertising their arse for interested parties. We are apes I guess. Maybe the next step will include their social media names or phone number on each cheek

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:40

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:36

FFS they’re choosing to wear these leggings - it’s not like there’s a uniform imposed by gyms of skimpy leggings and crop tops and no one else is allowed in.

Some women like the attention - that’s why they choose to ‘objectify’ themselves. There’s no conspiracy at play - young heterosexual women have always enjoyed experimenting with their looks, for male (and female) attention.

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I don’t think it’s a conspiracy - does anyone? It’s not a secret. We live in a patriarchal society. It’s not breaking news.

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:39

It’s just internalised misogyny @Usernamen

Which came first, the patriarchy or the self-objectification - I wonder eh? It’s a mystery.

HazardLights · 26/10/2023 06:38

4timesthefun · 26/10/2023 05:35

You are totally free to believe that. I’ll believe it when I see men‘s clothing designed to draw attention to their anus.

Yep.

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:36

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:28

These leggings are literally designed to sexualise you as you work out.

that’s what’s depressing. Most of us are clutching our pearls because young women are being objectified more than ever before - not because ‘they’re not covered up like the 50s.’

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FFS they’re choosing to wear these leggings - it’s not like there’s a uniform imposed by gyms of skimpy leggings and crop tops and no one else is allowed in.

Some women like the attention - that’s why they choose to ‘objectify’ themselves. There’s no conspiracy at play - young heterosexual women have always enjoyed experimenting with their looks, for male (and female) attention.

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:30

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:21

Exactly.

Many on MN can’t get their head around some women choosing to dress in an attention-seeking way, whether for men or for other women (I’m convinced it’s more for the latter….).

No one is forcing anyone to wear skimpy leggings or a thong bikini - they are CHOOSING TO.

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this attitude is so laughable. These things don’t happen in a vacuum. You think girls randomly choose to objectify themselves - look at the world around you.

WinterDeWinter · 26/10/2023 06:28

FlissyPaps · 25/10/2023 23:29

Normal people in the gym do not care what other people are wearing.

Normal people in the gym are more bothered about their workouts.

Normal people in the gym do not care to be noticed. You know why? Because they’re just there for their workout.

It’s only the Pearl clutches who believe women must cover up like the 1950’s who like to judge other women. Much like the OP and the majority of Pearl clutches on this thread.

Yeah men check out women. In the gym, in the pub, in the supermarket, at the petrol station, on the train. Most public places. Do I like being checked out by men in the gym? No. But I ignore it and just concentrate on my workout.

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These leggings are literally designed to sexualise you as you work out.

that’s what’s depressing. Most of us are clutching our pearls because young women are being objectified more than ever before - not because ‘they’re not covered up like the 50s.’

Gingernan · 26/10/2023 06:27

Oh gosh hilarious aren't they? Interestingly sold out on Amazon so people are snapping them up. I must tell my partner about them at the weekend, the reaction is likely to be incredulous, we are old though.

FreddiesTeeth · 26/10/2023 06:25

Had to Google these. Kenny Everett and Rod Stewart spring to mind.
The saddest thing is the repeated idea that they somehow 'empower' women. FFS .

Usernamen · 26/10/2023 06:21

Siameasy · 26/10/2023 06:12

I agree but women have chosen to objectify themselves so complaints about being objectified shouldn’t be taken seriously.
It’s done to compete with other women as well.

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Exactly.

Many on MN can’t get their head around some women choosing to dress in an attention-seeking way, whether for men or for other women (I’m convinced it’s more for the latter….).

No one is forcing anyone to wear skimpy leggings or a thong bikini - they are CHOOSING TO.