AIBU to think that Diane Abbott needs to go.

She's scum

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It's also worth remembering why she was suspended by Labour in the first place, and bearing that in mind her current views are hardly a surprise:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uks-labour-suspends-diane-abbott-saying-jews-experience-prejudice-not-racism-2023-04-23/

The amount of posts questioning Diane abbot’s intelligence, despite her clear academic credentials. It’s almost like whatever she achieved wouldn’t be good enough. I wish I had a 100th of the resilience she has to get up and keep fighting for peace and justice and fairness in the face of relentless abuse towards her.

we don’t see anywhere near the same level of vitriol towards some of the most disgusting politicians we currently have, actually in the front bench, making decisions, abusing their power, corrupting our politics. Wonder why.

Which means Israel disappears. If you don't understand that's what Hamas want, you really shouldn't be commenting on the issue.

I think she should stay exactly where she is, which is outside this dreadful Labour Party.

And people should be free to pro-Palestine in this great British democracy.

That woman has been a liability to the Labour Party for years. She should have gone years ago.

Hamas consolidated power in a coup, killing Fatah officials, and with Iranian sponsorship. Its funny how Netanyahu sidelines the moderate Palestinians such as the PLO, who accept a state of Israel and want to progress to a 2 state solution.
I guess hes more comfortable with Hamas as his nemisis, then all valid Palestinian needs and desires can oblitorated.

The crisis existed decades before the most recent massacres...come on wake up.
Every day now hundreds of civilians die in and orgy of death and expensive weaponry, but thats ok, they werent deliberately targeted, its alledged.

I agree in my opinion there was no anti semitic chanting. And I think she asked a fair question.

But it’s not appropriate for a train driver on shift to lead chanting for anything at all regardless of the topic. His job is to drive the train and to tell people to mind clear of the doors / stop blocking the doorway and to say “we’re being held at a signal and will be on our way soon” nothing else

Ignoring her comment for one moment. If she was in the private sector she would have been sacked DECADES ago. She probably has her name written on a post-it note in case she needs to remember it in a hurry.

YABU

Why do you think that is @skippy67 ?

The woman has always been a fuckwitted idiot. It's embarrassing she's ever been an MP.

Hamas is the elected ruler of Gaza though. That’s the difference.

There hasn't been an election there since 2006...

But there was no anti semitic chanting.

It's entirely acceptable to want the occupied territories of Palestine to be free!

Palestine can only be “free” according to the Palestinians if Israel no longer exists.

She’s made a very good point. Stop being an idiot - you know Palestine isn’t Hamas

Don't mix Palestinians up with Hamas. Its like linking the Irish with the IRA.

The people of Northern Ireland did not elect Sinn Fein (political arm of the IRA) during the Troubles. The most popular pro-United Ireland party was the SDLP at that time.

Hamas is the elected ruler of Gaza though. That’s the difference.

And stop comparing the Irish/the IRA to the Palestinians/Hamas. The IRA never governed Ireland, was never voted in, did not have mainstream support in the way Hamas do. Ireland viewed the IRA as a terrorist organisation. During The Troubles, even Sinn Fein was a tiny little minority party outside of NI.

It is extremely disingenuous to pretend that Hamas don’t have huge support among Palestinian people.

She is fading out of public life and her time is almost over, so I’m not too worried about Diane Abbott. She’s of that ill of the Left who never evolved from student politics of the 70s & 80s. No nuance, no intelligent opinion, just knew-jerk viva la revolucion stuff without a scooby about the complexity of the situation in which they pronounce.

The train driver is an idiot, though. Nobody wants to hear your political views, mate. Just tell us to mind the gap and stay in your lane.

I am pro Israel and the UK has chosen to expand its population with people from some countries which are very anti Jewish so I suppose we have reaped what we sowed. However I am also in favour of free speech so DA can tweet that if she likes. I don't agree with her analogy.

On the question of the tube driver, he was at work so should keep politics out of things. Has it been disclosed who he is?

I’m so over being bombarded with politicised views by shops and businesses.
Same here.
I want businesses to be good at what they do and get on with providing the goods/services to a high standard.

I don't want them pushing political views, latest lobby agendas, or some knee jerk reaction to complex world events.

I’ve been getting on tubes almost daily for 49 plus years and the only thing tube tannoy announcements are for is to give passengers information related to their tube journey or the wider tube network and that is it. They are to explain delays, tell people what is happening on the line they are on and to remind people to get off if applicable. Sometimes you get drivers telling people not to lean on the doors and not to run to catch tubes as they might slip and that vaping is not allowed.
that is it . Anything else is irrelevant and not appropriate. Drivers have no idea who is on their train and there could be hundreds of people using their train over the course of a tube line.