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To take DS on holiday during work experience week

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Flufty191 · 23/10/2023 20:30

DS is year 10. We live in a small town. He's due to do work experience next summer. He/we have contacted every company in the local area and have either had no response, been told they don't offer work experience or the work experience places are already taken.

His options now are a charity shop or the school canteen (the canteen is the schools only help if you're unable to secure your child a place somewhere).

He's already doing voluntary work for his DofE.

Would I be unreasonable to book a family holiday abroad for a week instead?

Yanbu-book it
Yabu-he should do the work experience.

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Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 24/10/2023 16:25

Assuming you're doing a package holiday, you could mail the holiday company and see if he could do a day or two shadowing a rep?

Babybjorn · 24/10/2023 16:23

Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:05

Have you ever had a 'fuck it' moment in life though? My lovely dad's got cancer, as has my MIL. It does put things in perspective and make you realise that it's OK to not do everything by the book all the time. I dont think this does deserve effort, not in a personal or a school level. Not this time.

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It sounds like your mind is made OP and like you’ve got plenty on your plate. Make a decision and own it! DS sounds like a good kid. Have a chat about the importance of honouring commitments usually, let the school know politely, make sure he sees through the summer work experience and book the holiday! I don’t think anyone is particularly invested in whether he does the experience in that particular week or not. From your first posts, some people (me included) thought DS thought it was beneath him all, which is bound to get some backs up! I don’t think that is the case though. Sounds more like you all need the holiday and the work experience week is a good time.

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:22

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Look back, you started with personal insults, and each time I reponded with the same necessary reply.

No amount of telling me you don't care undoes whst you've already expressed.

Let's move on.

charlotte361 · 24/10/2023 16:18

Retail and hospitality is pointless because it is pretty easy to get paid work in it.
If he has got some more suitable WEx in the school holidays then I can't see any downside.
What is he going to be doing?

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:16

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sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:14

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Right, but you care enough to keep commenting on how you think I should live my life - it isn't relevant and just looks petty.

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:12

Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:05

Have you ever had a 'fuck it' moment in life though? My lovely dad's got cancer, as has my MIL. It does put things in perspective and make you realise that it's OK to not do everything by the book all the time. I dont think this does deserve effort, not in a personal or a school level. Not this time.

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I am very sorry to hear about your relatives, and hope they are able to get treatment/recover. That must be hard on all of you.

Regarding the actual issue of the topic, I'd personally still hope he could find something, for reasons already outlined. I am not saying everyone has to do this, but you did ask for opinions so.......

Maray1967 · 24/10/2023 16:12

UpaladderwatchingTV · 23/10/2023 21:14

Could you maybe encourage your child to plan and book the holiday OP, obviously with your approval and final say? This at least would be a learning opportunity. You could get him to act as a holiday rep as it were, getting him to look into the things you could do, while you were away, costing them, arranging transport, that sort of idea. If you're planning on going abroad, get him to choose something that he thinks you as a family would like, ie, not just what HE would like, and get him to justify why he's chosen it. Tell him you expect him to treat you like strangers, ie, asking lots of questions about what you want from a holiday. Look at flight times, make plans of how to get to and from the airport at both ends. Just a thought, but at least it would give him some experience, if he were to have to make phone calls to find out information, that would be good for his confidence of dealing with people, or if not that, he could go forward to check in at the hotel, asking any necessary questions, look at booking travel insurance, etc.

Excellent suggestion. Tell school his work placement is as a travel guide. He’ll learn a lot more than he would in the school canteen.

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Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:11

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:06

You're fine, OP.

Go on the holiday. As you say, life is too bloody short to always follow "the rules".

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It is isn't it and the thing is, I know my son, I know our family work ethic. He's seen it every day since he was born. We're grafters. He knows what's coming.

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sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:08

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:05

Does it have to be? Can't I just make a comment for the sake of it?

Jeez Louise. Chill out.

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Again, was that comment really necessary or relevant, or even remotely informed or accurate?

None of this is strengthening your 'argument', but crack on with more comments 'for the sake of it'.

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:06

Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:05

Have you ever had a 'fuck it' moment in life though? My lovely dad's got cancer, as has my MIL. It does put things in perspective and make you realise that it's OK to not do everything by the book all the time. I dont think this does deserve effort, not in a personal or a school level. Not this time.

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You're fine, OP.

Go on the holiday. As you say, life is too bloody short to always follow "the rules".

NancyJoan · 24/10/2023 16:06

I remember a friend’s daughter finding a course that was relevant to her future plans that she did during the summer hols instead of the work exp week. Might that be an option?

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:06

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 16:03

It doesn’t deserve effort if OP’s ds is already doing volunteering.
It’s often some frazzled staff member with a bored teenager under their feet all week.

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I disagree that he shouldn't be making effort in this situation.

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:06

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 16:03

It doesn’t deserve effort if OP’s ds is already doing volunteering.
It’s often some frazzled staff member with a bored teenager under their feet all week.

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Exactly! This place is bonkers sometimes, honestly.

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Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:05

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:00

Doing what a school asks of a pupil/parent does not mean someone is 'a stickler for 'the rules'' or 'just blindly follow orders'. It means they understand that this is something that deserves effort, at both a personal and school level. Saying 'life is too short' isn't an excuse to get out of everything we just don't fancy doing.

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Have you ever had a 'fuck it' moment in life though? My lovely dad's got cancer, as has my MIL. It does put things in perspective and make you realise that it's OK to not do everything by the book all the time. I dont think this does deserve effort, not in a personal or a school level. Not this time.

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margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:05

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:03

Again, was that comment really necessary or relevant, or even remotely informed or accurate?

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Does it have to be? Can't I just make a comment for the sake of it?

Jeez Louise. Chill out.

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:03

margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:01

Was that comment really necessary or relevant, or even remotely informed or accurate?

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Not everything has to be so bloody serious all the time. Lighten up.

Again, was that comment really necessary or relevant, or even remotely informed or accurate?

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 16:03

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:00

Doing what a school asks of a pupil/parent does not mean someone is 'a stickler for 'the rules'' or 'just blindly follow orders'. It means they understand that this is something that deserves effort, at both a personal and school level. Saying 'life is too short' isn't an excuse to get out of everything we just don't fancy doing.

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It doesn’t deserve effort if OP’s ds is already doing volunteering.
It’s often some frazzled staff member with a bored teenager under their feet all week.

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:02

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 15:57

Dd couldn’t find anywhere. She got put with a florist who sent her down to the cellar to tidy up. She was barely allowed on the shop floor and only learned that florists are freezing and she would never work in one.

That's a shame - when offering placements businesses really should consider what they can practically offer the work experience candidate.

Sticktoyourguns · 24/10/2023 16:02

Our school expects you in school if you don’t have a placement. It would be unauthorised absence if you took them on holiday. They do a week of assisting and also learning how to do a cv, interviews etc for the ones that haven’t managed to find a placement.

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Flufty191 · 24/10/2023 16:02

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 15:57

Dd couldn’t find anywhere. She got put with a florist who sent her down to the cellar to tidy up. She was barely allowed on the shop floor and only learned that florists are freezing and she would never work in one.

Just a waste of time for everyone concerned!

DH had to paint a shop staff room (smokers staff room as well!) Bleurgh! He's now a social worker.

I ended up in a school even though I hated little kids at the time. I was miserable. I'm now a nurse.

I wish my parents had taken me on holiday instead!

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margotrose · 24/10/2023 16:01

Was that comment really necessary or relevant, or even remotely informed or accurate?

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Not everything has to be so bloody serious all the time. Lighten up.

sollenwir · 24/10/2023 16:00

margotrose · 24/10/2023 15:19

If you say so.

Personally I'm glad my parents weren't such sticklers for "the rules" and didn't just blindly follow orders. Life is too bloody short.

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Doing what a school asks of a pupil/parent does not mean someone is 'a stickler for 'the rules'' or 'just blindly follow orders'. It means they understand that this is something that deserves effort, at both a personal and school level. Saying 'life is too short' isn't an excuse to get out of everything we just don't fancy doing.

Poppydieu · 24/10/2023 15:57

Dd couldn’t find anywhere. She got put with a florist who sent her down to the cellar to tidy up. She was barely allowed on the shop floor and only learned that florists are freezing and she would never work in one.

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