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AIBU to refuse to continue the 'wifework' for XP?

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Calipso32 · 22/10/2023 20:08

Long story story, my ex partner of a decade and I separated a month ago. We have two little DC and are still living together, as he refuses to entertain any situation where I can access my equity in our house. I expect to continue this cohabitation arrangement for the next 3-6 months so am trying to lay some ground rules to survive it.

I have always done the 'wifework' in our relationship. The meal prep, grocery shopping, cooking, laundry, life and kid admin, buying clothes for kids and organising their appointments and so on... We both work, him full time and me 80% as I take the children one day a week.

Since the separation I've told him:

  1. I will cook for the DC and I. He must sort his own meals out.
  1. I will do the DC and my own laundry. He must do his own.
  1. He's in out much bigger spare room. I've taken our old room. I've asked him to knock before entering and preferably to give me my space and not to enter at all. I asked him to take some of his clothes to the spare room as our wardrobe is in this room.

So far, he's ignored all my boundaries when it comes to privacy and comes into my room to dress every morning when I'm in bed. He's started doing his own laundry at least.

I'm a good cook and he's livid that I'm not cooking for him anymore. I'm still doing the shopping and told him to tell me what he wants me to buy so he can cook for himself. He's a rubbish cook and makes no effort to learn the basics. So far he's just taking meals I've already made from the freezer or any extra food on the counter from a meal I've just made for the DC. How is this fair?

I think he should learn to fend for himself. Especially as he's forced me into this co-habiting arrangement.

When this is pointed out to him he walks around swearing under his breath about my priorities being messed up and 'he can't even eat the food he pays for'.

I'm on maternity leave for another month with our youngest and he's up until now been supporting us whilst I'm on the unpaid part of my leave. Now he's saying I need to start paying my way (before I return) as a way to further control me.

He's a complete dickhead and I actually dispise him at this point for making this so much harder than I needs to be.

Are my ground rules reasonable?

OP posts:
WinterDeWinter · 22/10/2023 21:23

"The food that he pays for". Fucking prick.

You are both paying for the food (I know you realise this) but instead of a direct cash contribution you are feeding and caring for the child that you and he created together.

I'm so pleased that you've asserted these boundaries and urge you to solidify them along the lines that PP have suggested - get his clothes out of your room, tell him the frozen stuff is for the kids, etc etc.

Fucking prick.

Conkersinautumn · 22/10/2023 21:23

People are showing their own values here. The poster isn't a skiving member of staff. The husband has terminated the relationship without warning but hasn't moved out and is blocking the posters access to equity. This is controlling behaviour.

Do get a lock OR move out with the DC completely

whynotwhatknot · 22/10/2023 21:11

oh and you can claim uc depending on your own wage of course

happylittlesloth · 22/10/2023 21:09

VikingVolva · 22/10/2023 20:50

What would that really achieve?

It looks more like a tantrum, rather than someone trying to work out the best modus vivendi until they sell up and each move on to their new futures.

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Fair point.

whynotwhatknot · 22/10/2023 21:08

my dsis is in a similar sitauitn hate to tell you it doesnt get easier-shes stopped cooking for him but still does all chores round the house -he mows the lawn

begrudges getting anything fixed, done round the house as sees as it as helping her out even though they have a child together-very bitter about it all and to make matters worse they cant seem to sell their ho9use just no viewings

youre not being nreasnable at all-maybe tell him to buy his own food so its clearer

Unicorn2022 · 22/10/2023 21:06

You can get a travel lock for your door while you are in your bedroom, they are only about £10 from Amazon and just hook over the handle.

I think I would probably still cook him a portion of whatever I was cooking and put it aside for him, just because I couldn't be bothered ordering him extra shopping and it would piss me off too much if he used my frozen stuff.

AnneValentine · 22/10/2023 20:58

Calipso32 · 22/10/2023 20:33

@VikingVolva I'm not sure I agree wih you there. I'm on zero pay as I'm off work looking after his child/ren. If I had months to go perhaps, but it's literally 4 weeks to my return. My youngest has a nursery place from my return date. Providing childcare is me 'paying my way' isn't it?

Not if you went to court it wouldn’t be. He can quite easily refuse to subsidise.

You need legal advice and a financial settlement sorted.

This is gross and petty.

Mrsttcno1 · 22/10/2023 20:56

VikingVolva · 22/10/2023 20:39

Not really. There's more to it than that and you know it. You want to withdraw from everything you have been doing in the household for him (ie the previous fair split of responsibility) but are not standing on your own two feet in terms of paying your way. It's called having your cake and eating it.

I agree with other posters about the need to get decisively into separate bedrooms. But I think reallocation of household chores waits until you are working again/

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Yes @VikingVolva is right on this.

If you want to take the stance that you’re absolutely behaving, living and acting as if you are both single, then actually all OP is entitled to would be whatever the CMS amount is from him. I can’t imagine his required CMS amount would pay for half of all the house bills etc. The argument of you “paying your way” by providing childcare is fair enough when in a relationship because at that point yes you are a team, but if the argument is you are separated in all ways, then all he has to give you is the CMS amount. You can claim UC I believe if separated even if living together still.

DaftyLass · 22/10/2023 20:53

Absolutely he should be responsible for half of the childcare, by providing it himself or financing it.

Nowherenew · 22/10/2023 20:53

You also need to be paying 50/50 for everything.

Nowherenew · 22/10/2023 20:52

As PPs have said, put a lock on your door.

It doesn’t just give you privacy, but it also sends him a clear message.

All of his clothes need to be in his room now.

Tell him that you take in turns cooking and draw up a rota.
This can include each other or just the adults.
If he doesn’t abide by this then you’ll both have to do your own cooking.

VikingVolva · 22/10/2023 20:50

happylittlesloth · 22/10/2023 20:48

Go out and leave him with the kids for a day he's working he'll change his tune.

What would that really achieve?

It looks more like a tantrum, rather than someone trying to work out the best modus vivendi until they sell up and each move on to their new futures.

RandomMess · 22/10/2023 20:49

Time to claim CMS and UC as a single parent - which can whilst sharing a house providing you live separately!!

Stick to your guns 💐

happylittlesloth · 22/10/2023 20:48

Go out and leave him with the kids for a day he's working he'll change his tune.

Guibhyl · 22/10/2023 20:47

And yes very few people can afford a nanny but that’s effectively what OPs ex has got himself here.

happylittlesloth · 22/10/2023 20:46

MillieVonPinkle · 22/10/2023 20:43

Posters who are saying she should “pay her way” presumably also then agree that the ex should be paying the OP the equivalent of a full time nanny’s salary then yes?

Why? Op is also responsible for the dc isn't she? So 50/50. Can't see why he'd be paying her a FULL time wage for it, at all.

Because she's not going to be able to find work st this short notice. It's one month til her job starts so until then she's saving him the cost of half the childcare so he should he paying her half the childcare cost minimum. And I'd argue more as presumably he had agreed to the maternity leave at the time.

VikingVolva · 22/10/2023 20:46

Guibhyl · 22/10/2023 20:40

Posters who are saying she should “pay her way” presumably also then agree that the ex should be paying the OP the equivalent of a full time nanny’s salary then yes?

No, because he wasn't doing so beforehand.

The split of chores was based in the income arrangements and working patterns then, and neither of those has changed (yet)

When OP starts working again, then of course things should change. But when having to cohabit, it's far better to do that by negotiation than diktat from one side. Both in terms of new split of all chores plus how to split bills

Guibhyl · 22/10/2023 20:46

Yes you’re right it would be half of a nanny’s salary. Just the same as he should be paying half the childcare fees once OP is back at work. Someone up thread said “assume you earn more than the nursery fee in a day” - why does the nursery fee come out of OPs salary? It would only need to be half.

LannieDuck · 22/10/2023 20:46

3 1/2 days of childcare per week is his responsibility now. I would offer to cover 2 1/2 days of that (during the working week) for the next 4 weeks in exchange for him covering your half of the bills for the next 4 weeks.

theduchessofspork · 22/10/2023 20:45

Guibhyl · 22/10/2023 20:40

Posters who are saying she should “pay her way” presumably also then agree that the ex should be paying the OP the equivalent of a full time nanny’s salary then yes?

V few people can afford a nanny.

I’m guessing the baby will go to nursery, and as the OP presumably earns more than the fees, she does need to go back to work - however she’s back in month, he can cover her till then as transition time.

Dramatic · 22/10/2023 20:45

For those saying pay her own way, she physically can't because he's refusing to move out so she can't claim UC or anything

happylittlesloth · 22/10/2023 20:44

Guibhyl · 22/10/2023 20:40

Posters who are saying she should “pay her way” presumably also then agree that the ex should be paying the OP the equivalent of a full time nanny’s salary then yes?

Yes minus any hours he is doing himself as he better be parenting his kids by himself some of the time. He's going to have to get used to it.

MillieVonPinkle · 22/10/2023 20:43

Posters who are saying she should “pay her way” presumably also then agree that the ex should be paying the OP the equivalent of a full time nanny’s salary then yes?

Why? Op is also responsible for the dc isn't she? So 50/50. Can't see why he'd be paying her a FULL time wage for it, at all.

TomatoSandwiches · 22/10/2023 20:43

Wifispy · 22/10/2023 20:38

Absolutely you're paying your way by doing the childcare! People conveniently seem to forget this, pisses me right off.

Agreed!

BibbleandSqwauk · 22/10/2023 20:43

Sure she can pay her own way..when he pays her childminding rates. Simple

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