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Only CF don't park on their driveway?

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rubyjan · 20/10/2023 16:18

So neighbours next door recently dropped the kerb outside our houses and built themselves a driveway. They can fit 2-3 cars. They have 2. A small pick up truck and a car.

Doing this they removed 3 parking spaces that were used, and inconveniently the next available parking space on our side of the road is in front of my home where I've managed to park for years with no issues.

Each neighbour sort of parks outside their homes but before they dropped the kerb they would park outside theirs but there was extra space for other cars to. (Their drop kerb spans more than 3 curbs) because they wanted to ensure they could reverse out as people opposite park on the opposite road in front.

My aibu is, they never fucking use their drive. But they don't park on their dropped kerb either. They park opposite!!! So the residents who usually park there, now fight for my parking spot or the woman's next door to me.

Because of working hours, I've now found myself without a parking spot and I have to park round the block as if I manage to park outside mine if I dare leave, it be taken.

I actually want to shout at them for not using their drive! But my mum said I would be unreasonable as it's a public road.

Im council and they won't give me permission to turn my front garden into a drive either! And it's just a ball ache walking an extra 10 minutes to my house heavily pregnant with small children purely on the basis they don't use their drive they put in 4 months ago!!

Would I be unreasonable to actually have a word with them?

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LoftyTurtle · 05/05/2024 17:28

Ugh we have a knobhead family on our street who do similar. Everyone hates them. They have a massive driveway that could easily fit 4 or 5 cars (I'm not even exaggerating). They have a car and a work van, both of which would very comfortably fit on their said mahoosive drive. But instead they park their giant work van outside literally anyone's house but on their own driveway. The husband is shit at parking too. His favoured place to park his work van is right outside our house, at such an angle that it makes it a pain in the ass for me (and my neighbour) to drive off our shared driveway. He's not parked illegally, just parked like a knob iyswim

My neighbour once asked him why he does it and he said "I don't like looking at my work van from the window while I'm sitting down in my living room watching television in the evening"

Twat

SavingTheBestTillLast · 05/05/2024 17:12

Do you have a ring doorbell OP, can you see if the car is still there.
If not
This is one good reason to get one 😄

Cant wait for the update. 🤪

AdobeWanKenobi · 20/10/2023 23:35

You can still request permission for a dropped kerb in a council/HA property.

rubyjan · 20/10/2023 22:58

YaWeeFurryBastard · 20/10/2023 18:06

Their dropped curb is 3 car lengths long? How big is their house?! Surely the dropped curb could still be parked across and leave ample space for access.

That said it drives me nuts when people decide to just claim a bit of a public road and gets annoyed when people park there. I used to live somewhere where people would put up aggressive no parking signs on bits of public road outside their house 🙄. Parking on a public road is first come, first serves whether it’s outside your house or not.

Well that's exactly what me and the other neighbours have discussed.

It's very strange how they have managed to get such a large drop kerb.

Maybe they are on mumsnet because one of their cars is on the drive tonight Grin

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Yazo · 20/10/2023 21:09

YANBU, our neighbour has a car so big it barely fits on the drive so he parks on the opposite corner, but across the corner so it makes it hard for anyone to see, let alone kids that are way smaller than the car. I wish he'd at least park it sensibly. They've spent 6 years with builders vans to, redoing the same jobs because he works in construction but somehow all the jobs need doing at least twice, so also have to fight the vans or deal with constant drilling..last weekend he woke me up both mornings drilling. Some neighbours are really really crappy, you can't change them, they won't park elsewhere. You just have to pray they move! That's what I do!

YaWeeFurryBastard · 20/10/2023 18:06

Their dropped curb is 3 car lengths long? How big is their house?! Surely the dropped curb could still be parked across and leave ample space for access.

That said it drives me nuts when people decide to just claim a bit of a public road and gets annoyed when people park there. I used to live somewhere where people would put up aggressive no parking signs on bits of public road outside their house 🙄. Parking on a public road is first come, first serves whether it’s outside your house or not.

DinnaeFashYersel · 20/10/2023 18:05

You would be reasonable to speak to them.

You would be totally unreasonable to begin by shouting at them.

ActDottie · 20/10/2023 17:59

I was going to say YABU they’re allowed to put a driveway in if they got permission etc. but when you said they don’t even park on it!!!!! Like wtf!!?!?!?!?

YANBU! That’s so bad!!! Our neighbours do this, they have a car parking space out the back which all the properties do but instead of using it they park one car outside their house (fair enough) and their second car outside ours!!!! And they don’t use their space! It makes me really angry!!!!

Mostly because I hear a constant car door opening and closing which sets the dogs off barking… the very dogs that they complained to the council about for barking too much… it’s just ridiculous! I’m not even sure how it’s more convenient parking round the front instead of the allocated space round the back!

I literally hate our neighbours cuz they’re right busy bodies with cameras looking out their house at every angle so them parking outside ours infuriates me more than it should!

EvilElsa · 20/10/2023 17:55

I get it. I absolutely love my neighbours, but for some bizarre reason they park their car on the road during the day, meaning traffic builds up and has to wait to pull round. They have a drive they use at night. It doesn't really bother me as we have a drive ourselves, but I do find it odd. I THINK they do it to slow down traffic through the village as they are both really hot on campaigning to keep the speeders at bay (we have a 20mph limit anyway through the village) but all it does is cause a line of annoyed motorists outside our houses who then floor it and speed past the parked car.

Loubelou14 · 20/10/2023 17:50

My neighbour always parks a car outside his house simply because he doesn't want someone else to park there. There are neighbours who are happy to park on the road rather than adapt their front drive so I think he wants to stop them.

2jacqi · 20/10/2023 17:47

well it is not an offence to park on someone's drive is it? the police will just tell them it is a civil matter

happylittlesloth · 20/10/2023 17:43

Ask the council to see if it's compliant

Showdogworkingdog · 20/10/2023 17:41

This happened to a friend. If he couldn’t park on the road because they’d parked there he’d just park on their (otherwise empty) driveway. Ultimate cf but he’s a big bloke and they didn’t say a word to him. They did start using their drive though. Selfish arseholes, hope you get it sorted.

doodleZ1 · 20/10/2023 17:39

I would report them to environmental health for running a business from home, ie a residential area and causing noise at anti social times. They need an industrial Unit. All complaints are anonymous and they wont be told it was you.

Crumpleton · 20/10/2023 17:34

Blackbyrd · 20/10/2023 16:31

Don't speak to them at all, report your concern to the relevant Planning Authority. As PP said, there is no way they'd get permission for a triple width dropped kerb

Agree here...

Not sure what county you're in but where I live you have to have planning permission and it also has to be dropped by a local authority approved contractor.

combioven · 20/10/2023 17:33

Our neighbours have off road parking for 3 cars, but both park on the narrow road, even when they’re on holiday for 3 weeks. It shouldn’t annoy me as much as it does, but how hilarious they find it when you mention it winds me up even more 😅

SoRainbowRhythms · 20/10/2023 17:29

I hear you op! Next door but one never use their drive and park their massive car and van on the street. The council wouldn't give us a droped kerb so we're reliant on street parking (and have a tiny 1l car). We can end up a good 5 mins walk away which is annoying when you've been shopping!

DaftyInTheMiddle · 20/10/2023 17:27

Out neighbours opposite did this. Drive wide enough for at least 4 cars but only 1 ever parks on it, their other car is always outside our house/next door, in a really inconvenient place so it means 2 spaces have become 1, then their transit is parked on the street too, plus a 2nd transit sometimes. They’re inconsiderate fuckers though, run a business from the house which means noise loading and unloading the vans at antisocial hours. The street would be lush if it wasn’t for them arseholes. What can you do though? They’re pricks and won’t stop being pricks because you ask them nicely.

Wendysfriend · 20/10/2023 17:22

I'm not really understanding this, maybe I need a diagram.

Anyway am I right in thinking, your next door neighbour can fit 3 cars in their drive and they dropped 3 kerbs outside, leaving the road without 3 parking spaces as they now park across the road and not on their drive and not outside at the dropped kerb ?

You need to find out if they got permission, I'm assuming by dropping kerbs they removed walls too?

How come they have a drive and you don't ? Why do you need permission to drop a kerb ?

Sorry I'm just confused about it all

potatoheads · 20/10/2023 17:14

A) how did they get permission for a dropped kerb and you can't
B) how did they get permission for a triple wide dropped kerb?
C) why did they go to all the expense if they don't want to use it?

JezzJazz333 · 20/10/2023 17:05

We have a similar issue, we live in a highly populated housing estate, our house is at the top end of a long road, and we are finding that people that live in other nearby roads are parking in our road, making it difficult for us to park as well as our friends and family when they come to visit. We also live opposite a care home so we see staff coming and going 24/7. We know of 3 people who simply don't care, they don't think about us residents, they see a space and in they go. Neither of them live in our road and one of them has a massive driveway that could easily take 4 cars and is empty most of the time, but he still insists on parking in our road!!! One of them has been known to leave their car in our road for a week! Totally understand that they are legally allowed to park in our road, but it is so frustrating when they all have alternative parking spaces that they could use that is still very close to their home!

filingpapers · 20/10/2023 17:05

The previous poster is correct.....it is not illegal to block someone out of their driveway, you mustn't block them on it though.

Fahbeep · 20/10/2023 16:53

Park on their drive? When they ask why you are parked there, tell them it's because you are pregnant, but because they won't park on it, you can't get parked near to your house on street. Make sure you park at an angle that fills as much space as possible. Keep doing it until they get the hint

TheThingIsYeah · 20/10/2023 16:46

@rubyjan I've had a Google and it seems you are liable for a PCN for parking over a driveway regardless of whether or not the vehicle is on the property.

Bit of a pain losing the on-street parking, I'm surprised councils go for it - maybe installing dropped kerbs and issuing PCNs is a nice little earner for them.

Shame as well that front gardens keep getting paved over and then roads flood and people scratch their heads as to why.

WiddlinDiddlin · 20/10/2023 16:45

OP won't get permission because she doesn't own the property.

This is infuriating OP. I'd park on their fucking drive tbh and see what they have to say to that!