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wonder what has happened to couple who freebirthed in Carribean?

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StrangerYears · 19/10/2023 03:43

Clive and Iuliia Gurzhii were all over the news for 3 days in August, after idiotically going to give birth on a beach a long way from home.
The birth was unwitnessed and very odd circumstances.
I googled them and all I could find was a gofundme (never saw that one coming!!) - it raised GBP128 out of an ambitious target of GBP15.000.

Do you think they are still out there?

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HoppingPavlova · 21/10/2023 08:23

Video of her and baby in the sea does look pretty authentic as the baby still has that white cheese like substance present at birth

Completely off-topic, but are they not worried about sharks? Sharks can smell a drop of blood in the ocean from km’s away. I imagine birth would be like a party they are swimming towards. Many of our shark attacks have been in fairly shallow water, including knee deep, it’s not just surfers or people swimming out deep. You are safe from Greats obviously as they need deep water but Bulls can attack in really shallow water. No way would I be giving birth in the sea.

Angrycat2768 · 21/10/2023 08:22

Mistletoewench · 20/10/2023 20:43

This, family court involvement

Yes. I wonder if there have been some proceedings related to the older child, as she seems to have been dumped for months. I also suspect the baby wasn't theirs, and it was a ruse to cover up illegal surrogacy/adoption. Wasn't there someone who came onto the original thread to say she was friends of theirs and that the whole story was true, and the older child couldn't care less that her mother had disappeared for months on end?

HoppingPavlova · 21/10/2023 08:04

Unfair really. All of mine were 6-7 pound and I was like a huge hippo with many well meaning folk asking when my twins were due for most of my pregnancies.

HoppingPavlova · 21/10/2023 08:03

It happens. I knew someone who DID know they were pregnant but 100% did not show. The week before they gave birth they were on a yacht in a bikini, no baby bump WHATSOEVER. They weren’t recklessly sailing around in middle of ocean prior to birth, yacht was docked but you could still jump in and have a swim. A week later they gave birth to a baby just over 8 pound. Some people just hide the little beggers🤣.

Zonder · 21/10/2023 07:57

CountryStore · 21/10/2023 05:52

Why not birthing mother in that situation?
And what if most women want to keep the word 'mother' ? Do their feelings matter?

This. Or even birth mother to keep it shorter. I'm definitely one of those whose feelings would be hurt by swapping the word mother for parent.

Riverlee · 21/10/2023 06:23

I knew someone who didn’t know she was pregnant until she was five months gone. She was plumpish and had been getting irregular periods.

People were surprised when my sister turned up with a child. She carried a small bump, and people didn’t realise she was pregnant (she knew).

JudgeJ · 21/10/2023 06:10

NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz · 19/10/2023 09:01

Maybe they were deemed too stupid to be allowed to return

Oh, wouldn't l love that to be one of the criteria at passport control!

CountryStore · 21/10/2023 05:53

CountryStore · 21/10/2023 05:52

Why not birthing mother in that situation?
And what if most women want to keep the word 'mother' ? Do their feelings matter?

This was in reply to @SunsetBeauregarde

CountryStore · 21/10/2023 05:52

Why not birthing mother in that situation?
And what if most women want to keep the word 'mother' ? Do their feelings matter?

Londoner89 · 21/10/2023 05:20

Ignore my above post, I seem to have come across the Instagram of a different woman (who also gave birth in the sea!!)

Londoner89 · 21/10/2023 05:17

Josy Peukert is on Instagram, or raggapunzel as her user name is.
The odd post about her birth, using it to promote working with her(?!). I guess she has some sort of spiritual holistic type business. Otherwise no sign of a baby! Video of her and baby in the sea does look pretty authentic as the baby still has that white cheese like substance present at birth.

SunsetBeauregarde · 20/10/2023 21:54

Which mother? My best friend and her wife are both mothers to their beautiful baby girl, and the use of ‘birthing parent’ has been brilliant for them as medical professionals have needed to distinguish which one of them gave birth.

LylaLee · 20/10/2023 20:54

SoupDragon · 19/10/2023 09:36

How can someone so slim be pregnant with a baby that size and not know? I can understand it if you're overweight and the bump is disguised. I wasn't very slim but I could see limbs when my babies stretched out inside!

There's a very specific set of circumstances:

Usually a muscular/athletic person, with a long torso, placenta in a weird position, sometimes carrying high, almost in the ribcage, organs and guts pushed out of the way. The person already has a history of irregular/no periods (e.g. certain types of contraception), or spotting is mistaken for a period.

There are 9 billion of us. A few hundred times a year this happens. Not outside the realms of possibility.

Mistletoewench · 20/10/2023 20:43

justasking111 · 19/10/2023 08:50

I thought this, the courts have issued a media ban to protect the family. Family courts are known for this

This, family court involvement

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 14:57

Shittenshite · 19/10/2023 14:20

I didn't write that, so don't shoot the messenger!

FWIW I can't stand this "birthing person / chestfeeding" madness and refuse point blank to get on the merry-go-round to pander to the tiniest fraction of society!

My apologies.
I wasn't blaming you.

I was just Hmm at the use of the expression "birthing person" and I see you're not on board with it either.

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you.

Shittenshite · 19/10/2023 14:20

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 09:25

"Birthing person"?

Hmm

I didn't write that, so don't shoot the messenger!

FWIW I can't stand this "birthing person / chestfeeding" madness and refuse point blank to get on the merry-go-round to pander to the tiniest fraction of society!

SwingTheMonkey · 19/10/2023 10:48

RoseAndRose · 19/10/2023 10:30

They probably stopped railing against the machine, realised they had to comply with the normal processes and sullenly did so. So DNA came through, passport was issued and they cam back quietly.

An arrest for baby trafficking, of a person who had previously put themselves into the spotlight, would have been reported on. As there has been no sign of that, I think it must have been a routine non-newsworthy outcome

I doubt it, press coverage would have been out of their control. Someone would have followed up on such a ridiculous story. Unless they were unable to follow up due to an ongoing child protection case…

Middleagedmeangirls · 19/10/2023 10:44

@SoupDragon

it can happen. I have no idea how or why but it can. Back in the 80s I was at a friends party and her flatmate was there eating, drinking and partying in very tight jeans and an equally tight t shirt. Not an ounce of fat on her and probably a size 8 (and that's an 80s size 8, not the current size 8). That was a Saturday night. On Sunday she woke at night with agonising stomach pains and my friend went to A&E with her - where she gave birth to a 7lb baby boy.

I often think of this story but it's only just dawned on me that said baby is now a man in his 40s!

RoseAndRose · 19/10/2023 10:30

They probably stopped railing against the machine, realised they had to comply with the normal processes and sullenly did so. So DNA came through, passport was issued and they cam back quietly.

An arrest for baby trafficking, of a person who had previously put themselves into the spotlight, would have been reported on. As there has been no sign of that, I think it must have been a routine non-newsworthy outcome

Zimunya · 19/10/2023 10:23

Maybe one of the numerous Daily Mail jounalists who lurk on here and then publsh threads as "news articles" could do some proper investgative journalism for a change, and provide an update on this case. Just a thought.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 19/10/2023 10:04

LemonTreeSkies · 19/10/2023 05:44

“Birthing person”??

Wouldn’t that be the mother?

Not just me then!

AngryBirdsNoMore · 19/10/2023 09:56

“Mystery illness” - sure, and no one took a urine test. Sure sure sure sure.

SoupDragon · 19/10/2023 09:36

How can someone so slim be pregnant with a baby that size and not know? I can understand it if you're overweight and the bump is disguised. I wasn't very slim but I could see limbs when my babies stretched out inside!

Battytwatty · 19/10/2023 09:36

There was another one of these idiots a few years ago. I’m sure she had two children, refused any medical assistance throughout both pregnancies and gave birth with only her partner to help. Lucy summat. I think the Guardian did a piece about it. I looked her up on Instagram out of curiosity a few years ago and now she does workshops teaching women how to orgasm 🙄