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wonder what has happened to couple who freebirthed in Carribean?

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StrangerYears · 19/10/2023 03:43

Clive and Iuliia Gurzhii were all over the news for 3 days in August, after idiotically going to give birth on a beach a long way from home.
The birth was unwitnessed and very odd circumstances.
I googled them and all I could find was a gofundme (never saw that one coming!!) - it raised GBP128 out of an ambitious target of GBP15.000.

Do you think they are still out there?

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NOTANUM · 12/11/2023 09:08

Ah I missed that. It’s a hard poster to read!

Dwappy · 12/11/2023 08:54

NOTANUM · 12/11/2023 08:53

That missing poster says Clive spoke to the police by phone. He may not even be back.

The red bit at the top says she was ripped from her dad's arms a week after the phone call. So that bit sounds like he's back.

NOTANUM · 12/11/2023 08:53

That missing poster says Clive spoke to the police by phone. He may not even be back.

dunroamingfornow · 12/11/2023 07:44

Looks like Elizabeth was removed by police on an interim care order using their powers of protection.
The private " fostering" arrangements with whoever was looking after her were probably not confirmed with the local authority. The law requires them to be notified so they can assess and support to make sure it's a safe set of arrangements for the child.

Not saying they always get this right, but they will have to remove first , assess and then plan. There must be more going on surely?

Catsmere · 12/11/2023 00:52

I'd summarise it as "Clive is making up shit again"!

SB1210 · 12/11/2023 00:39

Hang on, im confused wtf is going on here??

Catsmere · 12/11/2023 00:34

MCOut · 12/11/2023 00:17

Poor poor girl. Through sheer stupidity they abandon her for months, invite media attention and the scrutiny of the authorities and when he finally deigns to come back to the UK she gets taken into care. I wonder what she’ll think when she’s older. I’m assuming Luliia is still there as only Elizabeth was taken and it mostly refers to Clive.

Assuming any of this happened at all, which given Clive's history and lack of functioning brain cells, I doubt.

MCOut · 12/11/2023 00:17

Poor poor girl. Through sheer stupidity they abandon her for months, invite media attention and the scrutiny of the authorities and when he finally deigns to come back to the UK she gets taken into care. I wonder what she’ll think when she’s older. I’m assuming Luliia is still there as only Elizabeth was taken and it mostly refers to Clive.

InvalidCrumb · 12/11/2023 00:12

Isn't 'legal fraud' a phrase often chucked about (nonsensically) by the sovereign citizen, freemen kind of 'movement' - the people that believe people on the internet who say the government is acting illegally when it compels them to obey laws, etc?

Catsmere · 11/11/2023 23:51

Another of Clive's fantasies!

Dixiechickonhols · 11/11/2023 23:51

Gosh I’d forgotten about this the first thread was fascinating.
So the left behind older sister is hopefully ok in foster care.

SwingTheMonkey · 11/11/2023 23:50

GetBackIntoBed · 11/11/2023 23:38

Who is Clive?

The flyer only talks about a Chris

Are we looking at the same flyer? It mentions Clive several times.

It is, however, an extremely poorly written load of shit. What are ‘legal fraud police’ and what have they got to do with removing a child, with no social workers present, for seemingly no reason.

BlackTuesday · 11/11/2023 23:49

GetBackIntoBed · 11/11/2023 23:38

Who is Clive?

The flyer only talks about a Chris

It talks about Clive all the way through…

Chris is the name linked to the phone number though

Catsmere · 11/11/2023 23:48

GetBackIntoBed · 11/11/2023 23:38

Who is Clive?

The flyer only talks about a Chris

Blow it right up, it isn't Chris, it's Clive - he's the dickhead with a long history of utter stupidity. If you look for the first threads about him you're in for a treat.

Pollyannamex · 11/11/2023 23:47

GetBackIntoBed · 11/11/2023 23:38

Who is Clive?

The flyer only talks about a Chris

It mentions Clive loads of times

GetBackIntoBed · 11/11/2023 23:38

Who is Clive?

The flyer only talks about a Chris

Isittimeformynapyet · 11/11/2023 23:12

MachinesOfGod · 22/10/2023 18:24

All these people giving birth in the sea…are they not afraid of getting a nasty endometritis from V. Vulnificus?! Or another nasty bacterial pathogen found in the sea?

You sound so sure that everyone's heard of it! People aren't scared of things they don't know exist.

YouCanExfilNow · 11/11/2023 22:50

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TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2023 22:31

WTAF?

Catsmere · 11/11/2023 22:26

Am I reading that right? 7 September Clive is still trapped in Grenada due to immigration issues but 15 September he's back home and his daughter is kidnapped from his arms? Did he manage to sort his immigration issues all of a sudden in the space of a week?

I dunno, given Clive's history, I just feel very doubtful about all this.

MadeOfAllWork · 11/11/2023 22:21

Thank you for posting that flyer.

That poor girl. I hope she is safe. Clive seems really rather unstable.

WiddlinDiddlin · 11/11/2023 22:18

Managed to hot foot it back sharpish to Sunny Ashton though didn't they? Or is it just Clive, and the Mum and the unfortunately new baby are still out there?

WiddlinDiddlin · 11/11/2023 22:16

Poor kids, particularly the older one who must be starting to realise her parents are complete and utter wallopers by now.

Mrchadchad · 11/11/2023 22:05

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GoodnightGentlemen · 11/11/2023 15:22

CoffeeBean5 · 22/10/2023 08:33

The correct term is birth mother or biological mother, not birthing 'person.' If an egg donor is used then the woman giving birth is a birth mother, not biological mother (how confusing!). The birth mum's female partner will be a mum through marriage. Or maybe she has to adopt - I'm not sure how it works.

It's like when a heterosexual couple use a sperm donor. He won't be the biological father, but he'll be a father by marriage.

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The birth mum's female partner will be a mum through marriage. Or maybe she has to adopt - I'm not sure how it works.

If they are married/civil partnershiped pre baby, and the baby is born via some type of artificial insemination then they both go on the birth certificate- birth mother as ‘mother’, and the other mother as ‘parent’.

There is absolutely no need to remove the term mother just because they are gay. I’m my child’s birth mother, my wife is also his mother. I don’t loose my status as a birthing mother just because someone else is also his mother, and she wouldn’t gain anything by us both being called ‘parent’- the biological facts are there: she did not give birth, she is not genetically related to our ds. Fannying around with words won’t change that- if there was going to be some sort of emotional upset about that just using the word parent instead of mother would not help, it would not change biological reality.