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AIBU to ask to bring my baby to a wedding?

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Xandria22 · 13/10/2023 10:21

My oldest friend is getting married in December and I just got the invite. It has mine and DH name on it not our 3 kids. This is absolutely not a problem. Who wants to party when you have kids!

We are only invited to the night do (I think it’s a very small day do) and I have messaged her to ask if I can bring the baby who will be 4 months old as he is exclusively breastfed. My message basically said ‘if it fits in with your wedding plans could we bring the baby as he is completely breastfed and we wouldn’t be able to leave him for that long. If it’s a problem we won’t be able to come to the wedding but we won’t be offended we would understand and wish you all the best’

We live an hour away and have nobody nearby who we can leave the baby with. She hasn’t replied to me but when I reached out to another friend she has said that the bride is not happy with my request.

The hen do is next week and I’m a bit apprehensive (more so because DH is coming to the hotel where it is being held with the baby in a room so he can phone me when to feed him).

I thought I was being completely reasonable. She could say no babies/children and that would have been done. Am I missing something?

OP posts:
LizHoney · 13/10/2023 10:50

Thesearmsofmine · 13/10/2023 10:42

She was rude not to reply to you and moan about you to other people. If she is set no babes in arms then she needs to own that and just let you know and accept that means you may not come,

Agree with this. You're both being reasonable, but she needs to own her decision making.

Does she know your DH and baby are going to the hen location? Not every bride would be keen on that either!

ImADevYo · 13/10/2023 10:50

YANBU OP I'm getting married soon. There's nothing wrong with asking!

@Sayitaintso33 babies are included in the headcount for fire regulations.

Warum · 13/10/2023 10:49

Thesearmsofmine · 13/10/2023 10:42

She was rude not to reply to you and moan about you to other people. If she is set no babes in arms then she needs to own that and just let you know and accept that means you may not come,

'If she is set no babes in arms'

The invite not including children has already made that clear - no children means no children, not 'no children except babies'.

Unfortunately for OP this is a welcome to the world of being a parent, not everywhere is baby friendly and it's up to others to decide whether they want babies at their wedding.

Xandria22 · 13/10/2023 10:48

Perhaps I was just being a bit blunt.
I just wanted to cover all bases and make sure she knew it was okay to say no to me. I wanted to be the opposite of manipulate her - I wanted it to be easy for her to say we’re having no babies, there’s no room etc. I don’t think I’m entitled one bit to bring the baby. But in the same breath I really want to go to celebrate with her.

She doesn’t have children so unsure whether she would understand not being able to leave a breastfed baby (I certainly didn’t understand before I had kids)

I live quite far away from her and so don’t see her often and we haven’t spoken much this year as we’ve both been so busy but we have years like that and it doesn’t affect our friendship when we get together.

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SugarHiccups · 13/10/2023 10:48

If the invite didn't explicitly say that it's an adult only event, of course YANBU for asking.

We had kids at our wedding but we didn't put all the kids names on the invites (we didn't even know all their names!) We just assumed people would know their children are invited as the default, because we didn't state 'adults only'. No one contacted us to clarify, they just brought their kids.

I think it's very immature of her to not reply to you, especially when she was vague on the invitation. It would be easy to respond politely saying that it's an adult only event and that she understands you can't make it.

MatthewsMumFromTikTok · 13/10/2023 10:47

Just leave her to it op

Are you going to the hen do?

SoRainbowRhythms · 13/10/2023 10:47

BoohooWoohoo · 13/10/2023 10:43

I suspect that she thinks babies are children so that you are asking to try and get her to make an exception for you.

I understand why you asked (babies are sometimes an exception) but I have kids so understand that point unlike a childless person who would reasonably think that baby is a child.
Does she know that you're breastfeeding? She might assume that breastfed babies can be left with dad and have a bottle of expressed milk for the day.

Jesus wept 😂 now childfree women can't correctly identify a child?

She just doesn't want kids there. And that's her choice and should be respected.

VeridicalVagabond · 13/10/2023 10:46

Sayitaintso33 · 13/10/2023 10:31

No need to ask, not only is there no service to disrupt, babes in arms are always welcome alongside their mother, and possibly their father.

This is awful advice, no they're not! If they're having a childfree wedding that means children are not welcome. Last I checked a baby is still a human child.

SoRainbowRhythms · 13/10/2023 10:45

Mrsjayy · 13/10/2023 10:24

She specifically said no children it was really up to you to go or not, I don't blame her for not replying she's probably stressed and your request is maybe her feel awkward, just don't go if you can't leave the baby.

This. I wouldn't be happy about the hen do either.

Possimpible · 13/10/2023 10:45

@Irridescantshimmmer selfish adults need to learn to make compromises instead of sticking to their own rigid inflexible and mindless choices.

Fml at that whole post. Interestingly, this is absolutely how a lot of women feel about OTT mothers who think the sun shines out their baby's bum and refuse to compromise on anything for fear of delaying a nap 5 minutes.

@BoohooWoohooI have kids so understand that point unlike a childless person who would reasonably think that baby is a child.

Ah yes, childfree women are idiots. I forgot

Redcargidan · 13/10/2023 10:44

YANBU for asking
She INBU if she says no, it just means you can't go
She IBU for not responding

I know lots of people that have just turned up to weddings with babies without even asking about it so at least you've asked. At 4 months and EBF I'm surprised she thought you would leave the baby with somebody else anyway to be honest and that it hasn't already come up.

AmazingSnakeHead · 13/10/2023 10:43

If this is your oldest friend then the message is fine. who tiptoes around good friends? call her if you're worried.

BoohooWoohoo · 13/10/2023 10:43

I suspect that she thinks babies are children so that you are asking to try and get her to make an exception for you.

I understand why you asked (babies are sometimes an exception) but I have kids so understand that point unlike a childless person who would reasonably think that baby is a child.
Does she know that you're breastfeeding? She might assume that breastfed babies can be left with dad and have a bottle of expressed milk for the day.

Thesearmsofmine · 13/10/2023 10:42

She was rude not to reply to you and moan about you to other people. If she is set no babes in arms then she needs to own that and just let you know and accept that means you may not come,

DrMarshaFieldstone · 13/10/2023 10:40

BirthdayTrash · 13/10/2023 10:39

Got we’d at 26 as well and a quarter of our guests were under 5!

I mean, I could probably have asked at the local nursery if they would let me hire some infants to make up the numbers.

What on earth is your point?!

Irridescantshimmmer · 13/10/2023 10:39

I know the choice is yours but ask yourself " whose needs are more important ?"

The needs of your vulnerable child who is exclusivly breastfed and whose survival depends on you or your friend?

This is a black and white situation, no grey areas its an easy decision to make for a lot of mums. Babies must come first, selfish adults need to learn to make compromises instead of sticking to their own rigid inflexible and mindless choices.

So if you and your husband decide not to go to their wedding, don't go feeling bad about it and do not let her force you to feel guilty afterwards either.

BirthdayTrash · 13/10/2023 10:39

DrMarshaFieldstone · 13/10/2023 10:35

I'm afraid I think she made it perfectly clear by not including the baby on the invitation.

MN is convinced that there is a Great Exception for babes-in-arms but the problem is that no-one tells brides this, especially if they don't have children of their own. It didn't affect my wedding as I didn't know anyone with babies but I didn't have a clue that this was a 'thing' when I got married at twenty-six.

Got we’d at 26 as well and a quarter of our guests were under 5!

Warum · 13/10/2023 10:37

Sayitaintso33 · 13/10/2023 10:31

No need to ask, not only is there no service to disrupt, babes in arms are always welcome alongside their mother, and possibly their father.

This is really bad advice, if an invite does not include children then do not assume that doesn't include babies!

BretonBlue · 13/10/2023 10:36

Sayitaintso33 · 13/10/2023 10:31

No need to ask, not only is there no service to disrupt, babes in arms are always welcome alongside their mother, and possibly their father.

This is terrible, terrible advice. No-one outside of mumsnet knows about the supposed babes-in-arms rule.

Warum · 13/10/2023 10:36

The invite makes it clear that children are not invited, thus you have to assume your baby isn't invited. You should have RSVP'd saying sorry you couldn't make it (and maybe added as an aside that you just cannot leave the baby for that length of time). You are basically now asking for special treatment and making her feel awkward. I do understand why you cannot leave the baby, of course.

DrMarshaFieldstone · 13/10/2023 10:35

I'm afraid I think she made it perfectly clear by not including the baby on the invitation.

MN is convinced that there is a Great Exception for babes-in-arms but the problem is that no-one tells brides this, especially if they don't have children of their own. It didn't affect my wedding as I didn't know anyone with babies but I didn't have a clue that this was a 'thing' when I got married at twenty-six.

Luxell934 · 13/10/2023 10:33

Sayitaintso33 · 13/10/2023 10:31

No need to ask, not only is there no service to disrupt, babes in arms are always welcome alongside their mother, and possibly their father.

um no, you don’t turn up to someone’s wedding day with a baby without even asking.

lowestofthelow · 13/10/2023 10:33

I think your request is totally reasonable but the way you have worded it is not. Your final line is quite manipulative, and it is basically issuing an ultimatum to the bride. It didn't need to be said, and would have been kinder to have left it out. I think you need to apologise before the hen do.

Seryse · 13/10/2023 10:31

Have to agree with the pps, the "can't come if baby can't" does seem a bit like slapping an ultimatum down from the get go. The invite did specify no kids so personally, I wouldn't have even asked and just sent well wishes. Maybe drop her another message and apologise for the poorly worded previous message to see if you can smooth it over?

Sayitaintso33 · 13/10/2023 10:31

No need to ask, not only is there no service to disrupt, babes in arms are always welcome alongside their mother, and possibly their father.

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