To be baffled at dislike for Victoria Beckham

Loathe the woman due to what she did to his career. He was an idiot too but she kept swearing she would move to Manchester to help him out. Yes, she was a so called 'pop star' - one that lived with parents unless travelling with group. Each to their own. I'm glad he's cooking with his daughter and making sure she has normal eating habits. His wife said one frozen grape was a 'treat'.

This.

I also find it misogynistic to think that we are jealous that she married the so-called Golden Boy. Most people can’t stand him either. In fact he comes across much worse than VB imo.

Though I think he deserves a knighthood as much as any other sleb I can’t stand the thought that he might actually get one. They will both be insufferable when they become Sir and Lady Beckham.

I happen to think a lot of slebs come across as wankers and that these two epitomise the height of wankerhood despite all the money and “glamour” (what we see of them anyway). All the posing and crap. It feels as though we have it stuffed down our throats that we are supposed to want what they have when most of us are quite content with our quiet unshowy lives.

Don’t get me wrong: I quite enjoy sleb news etc. it is like watching performing clowns. And they are paid handsomely for giving us that entertainment and for giving us something to moan about.

What IS internalised misogyny is saying any woman who doesn't like another woman is jealous of her.

If a man dislikes another man, is he automatically labelled jealous?

ffs, it is NOT internalised misogyny and jealousy just because women don't like another woman.
What IS internalised misogyny is pretending we have to like other women just because we are women. What IS internalised misogyny is saying any woman who doesn't like another woman is jealous of her.

It's boring and its stupid and its offensive.,

I think it's jealousy and internalised misogyny. I think she is an attractive woman but still quite average looking overall (and I don't mean that as a criticism) and I think people are annoyed that she managed to marry the "golden boy" David Beckham despite this. It's not the natural order of things that a woman has other attributes other than her looks to attract a famous and good looking man (such as a personality and a big fat bank balance of her own). She comes across as funny and genuine to me. I feel very sorry for her she was even blamed by the press for David's affair!

I don't understand hardly any of this...

Not sure if I may have been too subtle but I loathe this woman. She only hot footed it to Spain when rumours started to surface - she was convinced she had upper hand. He tried to make everything as easy as possible. Loads of realtors, PAs (hah!) plus 5 for her parents only for her to whinge she'd forgotten this or that appointment because all so difficult, she had meant to unpack ONE box but got distracted so surely intent counted? Still didn't give a sweet FA about football but probably expected him to understand Ballet and the ruin caused to her bunion feet. Interesting that he cooks with daughter; mother takes incredible pride in inability to cook when anybody who can read can follow a recipe . . . Bu5623 ... forgot about Brooklyn . . .

As for her vanity project (the one she kept referring to as 'Mad Max' inspired instead of 'Mad Men' - poor old Roland must have been tearing his hair out) Beckham had to prop it up. She took full advantage of all government initiatives during COVID. Before anyone starts harking on about her taking advice; you can't claim being a successful (!) business owner one minute then getting an onion out and saying 'I was only following my accountant's orders'. Plus she got rid of loads of staff whinging on about the impact of COVID whilst still taking a massive wage out of the company.

So much is pinned on Single People. So ridiculous.

I'm single and I'm happy for them that they've stayed together, they have four kids who seem happy in each others company. They have plenty of money and their children have time to find their purposes.

I wouldn't say they're intensely private, but given the status of Victoria and David at the height of their original careers I think they did a reasonable job of a quieter life for the kids.

I don't particularly follow showbiz gossip or news and hardly heard about their kids unless they attended an event with their parents. Even as adults the only one I've really heard much of was Brooklyn and his photography attempt plus his marriage.

I might live under a rock though in which case I take it all back.

I'm surprised at the amount of posters saying they keep themselves to themselves or are very private.
They've had their kids in the public eye virtually from day 1, and use them as part of Brand Beckham in photo shoots/social media etc as their image of a happy close family. Of course that might actually be true ....but it doesn't really fit with the "intensly private" spiel. Other celebs are quite careful about not showing their DC, or having their faces pixilated out. I'm pretty sure Gary Barlows eldest child is a similar age to Brooklyn and I've no idea what he does, what he looks like etc and a pp (possibly on a different thread) mentioned Moses Martin....no idea what he looks like or what he does either.
I feel a bit sorry for the Beckham kids because they've been "known" all their lives then there is far less opportunity to go somewhere anonymous and everything is reported on. There's almost a certain expectation to be or do something amazing! And maybe they're just nice decent but very average kids...but with the pressure of having to be super talented at sonething!

I'm indifferent. Seems nice enough on the documentary. Can't be easy living with DB and his neuroses.

I suspect the people looking to tear her down are the same people who convince themselves that happily married friends with nice children must secretly hate their lives and be miserable from putting on a front.

This is exactly why I feel sorry for her. I think it's a big effort to put on a front both in private and public when your husband is repeatedly unfaithful. It must make her feel insecure and her extreme diet may partly be a consequence of that.

I'm sure their kids are perfectly nice but I don't think either parent has done them many favours. They were at excellent schools but haven't come out with a decent set of qualifications. I'd be encouraging my kids to work hard, not drift around getting loads of tattoos, glued to their girlfriends. Admittedly they're not going to be joining the Goldman Sachs graduate training scheme but it still gives them options.

The kids have been monetised as part of the Beckham brand from an early age when they could have been enjoying a childhood away from media scrutiny. Think about the public knowledge of Brooklyn Beckham's life v Moses Martin. I'd find that quite frightening as a parent.

I think most people probably couldn’t give a Shiite about VB (or her husband)

I like her eyeliners.

Didn’t like the way she lied about having breast implants, when it was blatantly obvious. Why lie?

Then there was the alleged altercation with Jordan in the Man Utd lounge. Doesn’t look great, very nasty if true.

100%. I think she seems to be very devoted to her family and works really hard to keep a low profile, they really aren't in the press that much, certainly her less than him.

I don't like the jealousy line, but do think there's some internalised misogyny at play.

She's done well for herself, had a career in her own right, fell in love with a successful man, got married, kept her head down and out of the press generally, had four children and generally managed to keep them out of the press as well as you'd expect for two high profile parents. She comes across well in interviews and manages to avoid too much scandal.

I suspect the people looking to tear her down are the same people who convince themselves that happily married friends with nice children must secretly hate their lives and be miserable from putting on a front.

Part of her podcast was on the radio, the part where she says she's from a working-class family. And then her husband comes in and asks her to say what car her dad drove her to school in. A Rolls Royce. I'm still laughing 😂 So no, I don't hate her, I just think she's got some weird ideas 🤣

Maybe because she has a resting bitch face? TBH I don't get it either. Her make up brand is really good, love the 💄

@Pocketfullofdogtreats - Judy Dench is worth at least £30 million. She doesn't have a mortgage. She's spoken of a commercial she did years ago paying for her second home in the country. That house is now worth £4 million apparently. She really has tons of money, she doesn't need to make commercials but she chooses to for reasons I can't quite grasp. I know she wants to keep working and can't do stage work any more. But it would have been 2 or 3 days work at best. Hardly very interesting or creative.

I'd encourage them if they were good at it, and I'd tell them to study an get better and try for an apprenticeship or something. I wouldn't just call my celeb photographer friends and get them to gush about what a great photographer my kid is, and get them onto national tv to show their terrible photos to the world, while they pretended to be a new celeb photographer!

I haven't RTFT, but have always liked VB since reading that, after the horrific murders of the two schoolgirls in Cambridgeshire in 2002, she contacted the parents and offered to pay for the entirety of Ely Cathedral to be decorated with white flowers. At the time everyone, especially parents, were horrified at what had happened, her own children were also young, and I saw that as an incredibly thoughtful gesture. Zero attention-seeking too, it was only revealed in the book written by one of the parents.

oh come on, if your child wanted to do say be a photographer, wouldnt you encourage or help them as much as you could, then if they changed their mind you again would support and encourage them, thats all they are doing except their kids are in the public eye.

I absolutely would (within reason). However, I wouldn't big them up to the press as something exceptional (and use the words super talented) when they're not.

It sets them up to be ridiculed, as they have been over Brooklyn's photography and football career, Romeo's tennis career and Cruz's musical career.

its not that paps have voluntarily backed away from celebs kids, it's because some celeb parents have taken legal steps to protect their children's anonymity. that's why you'll see the child's face pixellated.

Jealousy? Envy? There are some people who don’t like to see others doing well.

She was famous before she met DB (not that that matters) she’s a good business women, she’s got 4 children, they seem like a happy family, spending lots of time together. She had to go through a very public and intrusive media circus when DB had the affair. She comes across as a strong woman to me.
I’ve always found her funny in interviews.