To be baffled at dislike for Victoria Beckham

Exactly. She s a successful business woman in her own right, she is married to a much desired man, she has a lovely family and is part of a wider family and they all seem to get along.
She hasn't put a foot wrong as far as I am aware.
You can just imagine those who are green with envy nearly crying as they ask, 'What's special about her? What's she got that I haven't?'

Wow, some hate there!!!

@IhateHPSDeaneCnt wow not uour finest hour there

FFS, she's a loathsome woman. She can't sing and can hardly dance; stick a leg up in the air occasionally whilst wearing an artfully styled towel turban? Luckily, DB seems to have got kids into cooking (and eating).

Her so called successful fashion brand? Propped up by him and furlough let alone Roland Mouret designing everything in the first instance. Strangely enough, she managed to pay herself tons. She couldn't even read the PR blurb given for 'her' first so called collection; continuously referring to it as a 'Mad Max' vibe instead of Mad Men.

Strangely enough, all the women who blurbed about shagging him were quite nice 'girls next door' types who did the mistake of not being able to keep schtum by giggling to their friends - and their mates went to the tabloids. Poor girls were terrified by relentless harassment and agreed to tell all for bugger all.

He then learnt to ensure if he dabbled, it would be ladies who had just as much to lose. I'm talking about 'ladies' with significant pre-nups.

Suddenly, nannies were flung asunder (re school pick up - not morning drop off - because they quickly sussed he didn't appear for that and VB was never around) and all those 'ladies / mothers' appeared with fresh blow drys and immaculate makeup. Plus the Holland Park look eg tight fitting leather trousers, high heeled boots and a Gillette.

My big gripe is how she effed up his footballing career. He could have achieved so much more.

She will never get rid of the brand.

Ps. I will never again support England after so called 'fans' treated him.

@thebellagio NB: Glen H’s autobiography, he discusses DB.

I like her too. Don’t agree that people who don’t like her are automatically “jealous.” They’re unreasonable maybe but I wouldn’t call it jealousy.

I think:

People didn’t think she sang that well so why should she end up being the most famous Spice Girl?

People thought she looked a bit miserable.

People thought she was too thin and/or had the wrong haircut/clothes.

People didn’t like it when she and Beckham got “too big for their boots” and did stuff like have thrones at their wedding. Which appears to have been a big joke but nobody understood that at the time.

People thought she was in the papers too much and got sick of the sight of her.

People forgot she was famous first.

Simeone admitted in the Netflix doc that he dived and Beckham didn't deserve to be sent off. In football, it's game play. You do what you can to get an advantage. If it had been the other way round, and we were Argentinian, we would be saying that Diego was a mastermind.

I think the documentary could have been improved if they had actually interviewed Hoddle and asked him if he regretted ever saying that it was Becks' fault. Or asking any of the fans who were featured on news reels at the time asking them if they thought that perhaps they had got carried away and their behaviour was OTT in hindsight. Because it was.

You could argue that it was the rest of the team's fault for not making it past the penalty shoot out.

Exactly ! She thought he'd be excited and happy! Why not blame Simeone? He dived. The ref was harsh. Why not blame Glen hodfle for shoving him under a bus? Or all thos England fans who abused him for years after?

That stress can't have been easy for her. Either. If anything I think db is a bit needy . Can't play football without his mummy and daddy watching??

Bloody hell, all she did was tell him she was pregnant.

Maybe because she didn’t gaf about anyone when she decided to tell Dave she was pregnant, JUST BEFORE playing in the World Cup. You can’t honestly say you don’t believe that didn’t affect his game. In turn, THE game. In turn his life and happiness. She hurt so many people in so many ways, no amount of Karma will ever be enough. She should have been taking the blame. Publicly telling the ppl what she did and how it did affect his game. I can’t believe he stayed with her.

I agree. And She doesn’t really come across as someone who has their shit in order. What she should be praised for is the way that she has grabbed every opportunity that came her way as a result of being a Spice Girl ( they were great!) and as a result of being part of a Power couple because on her own there is no way she would have made it into the top 10 or run a fashion line. So I suppose I admire her for that because many would not have had the skill to capitalise on that.

Not jealousy, no. Just irritation at worship of riches for their own sake and mediocre people being promoted as outstanding. Also, VB is not 'beautiful'. She has a pug like face and an anorexic body.

She is really annoying IMO. She comes across as very smug, and has gone a long way on almost zero talent. I don't like either of the Beckhams but at least David is talented in one thing at least.

Yes in Ireland as well as America there is class oh yes there sure is, but if a working class person reveals his /her parents are very different and he/she makes middle class choices ie sending children to good schools, buying a house in a good area even if it's not big enough for 3 cars outside, prioritising education/ career ober "goods," and seeming to want to be accepted I think the attitude is "welcome to the club buddy"
I'm not the ambassador for the irish middle class though so perhaps that's just how I see it.

I think a lot of it is classicism, the UK is very anti-working class still, but in a very "stay in your lane" kind of way. Working class celebs who play up to certain stereotypes of working class people (or middle class celebs who pretend to be working class) are much more accepted than working class celebs who try to "act posh."

The other thing is that both of them are very upfront in wanting to be famous, wanting as much fame as possible, and being quite shameless about that. In America that mentality would be admired, but in Britain not so much. They also do seem to be pushing their kids into fame in ways that come across as quite exploitative and to have exposed their children to a lot of very negative and damaging things.

@BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants Tbf he does come across as a bit of a wanker. Have you seen his cookery tutorials? Lol!

I’m sure he can take a bit of mockery - he married a billionaire’s daughter and lives on the grounds of her dad’s mansion. His own personal wealth should also cushion him from criticism.

I think because she doesn't give tonnes of interviews the press resent her and give her negative stories. Then as she doesn't push back they keep going on again on her.
I like her, I think she's funny and would say in her safe circle she's a great laugh.

Getting hounded by the press? that's down to the parents.

No it really isn't. So many successful women who aren't disliked. How can you possibly know it's jealousy.

I agree about the jealousy/misogyny thing. Its tiresome and it's trotted out everytime as the only possible reason for disliking someone. It's part of the human condition to like and dislike someone. We don't have to like everyone, end of.

For me, it’s purely the materialism - I don’t particularly like ostentatious people and when she and David got married on customised thrones it made them both seem self-important and far too up their own arses to be truly likeable. Other than that, I have no issue with VB and she seems pretty funny and quick-witted.

I had a lot more respect for her after she stayed with David following the England sending off. He was one of the most hated men in the country, for months and possibly years afterwards. It must've been hell to live through that, especially as a celebrity, who generally thrive on positive attention. I think a lot of women in her circumstances but have left him at that point, she clearly wasn't with him for fame or fortune..

I actually had a meeting a few years back with her and David Beckham.

She was polite but not overly warm. I suppose I'd say she was "pleasant".

David was incredibly friendly and warm and gave me a kiss on the cheek at the end!

Good memories!!!!!!

Oh, and I loved the Netflix documentary.

I like her and wasn't particularly aware of any major dislike towards her.
I remember seeing the Spice Girls in concert. She was the one who everyone cheered for most.