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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2023 23:11

So, apparently there was just a meeting between Jordan and the GOP Reps who have not voted for him. I watched the news report w/Jake Tapper and Jake said that Jordan 'stalked' out when the meeting was over, apparently a very unhappy camper. The video of Jordan was from the rear and he certainly 'strode' away not stopping to speak to anyone and I assume if there'd been a 'positive outcome' he'd have made some sort of statement.

Jake added that the GOP Reps exited the room with stern faces and a few of them said off camera they had no intention of changing their votes.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-19-23/index.html

CNN - House speaker vote live updates: Rep. Jim Jordan vows to stay in speaker race

House speaker vote live updates: Rep. Jim Jordan vows to stay in speaker race

Rep. Jim Jordan said he's still running for House speaker despite resistance and plans to bring another floor vote. Follow here for the latest on the race to elect a new speaker.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-19-23/index.html

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SerendipityJane · 19/10/2023 20:54

BruceAndNosh · 19/10/2023 20:39

Georgia streams court appearances, so I watched Powells hearing. Very mundane except when she was hesitant to state her age, and when she asked her counsel to object to terms in plea deal which precluded her from owning a firearm.

She'll need one.

BruceAndNosh · 19/10/2023 20:39

Georgia streams court appearances, so I watched Powells hearing. Very mundane except when she was hesitant to state her age, and when she asked her counsel to object to terms in plea deal which precluded her from owning a firearm.

SequentialAnalyst · 19/10/2023 20:35

Nobody is obliged to read this. It's from the NYT.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/what-the-war-means-for-palestinians-inside-israel

Lizzieregina · 19/10/2023 19:25

It’s true that Jordan has backed out and now they’re talking about making McHenry speaker pro tem, which means he can call the house to order for votes etc but he doesn’t actually have any power. This would mean the house could move forward with business but they won’t actually have a leader (I think).

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2023 19:20

Incidentally (one for the pedants) isn't "coconspirator" a tautology ? Surely "Conspirator" will do just fine.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2023 18:19

Blast. Sorry, then. But we can hope; the reason given seemed so cogent....

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2023 18:17

watching CNN;

*Jordan NOT dropping out
*Jordan allies furious at suggestions to empower McHenry (to be Speaker)

Of course this could all change by the time the commercial break is over!)

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2023 18:15

Ooooh! Thanks for the 'breaking news re Jordan and Powell, @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime and @BruceAndNosh (et al). We've had the telly off this morning.

Now turning on MSNBC and/or CNN

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2023 18:01

Well, the latest breaking news (which may not be true) is that Jim Jordan has decided it is too humiliating to risk getting fewer and fewer votes each time he tries, after having been the first prospective speaker in a century to get fewer than 200 votes, and has bowed out.

Good news if so, but who do they pass the poisoned chalice to next? Or as someone put it, who stands for mayor of a city that's been nuked?

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2023 17:48

Brew for all. Just to say, still turning up regularly on this thread, though mostly to read: you all get there first re anything I might post!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2023 17:46

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2023 15:52

Plea deal of some sort?

According to CNN "Powell will be required to testify at future trials and write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia" as part of her plea deal.
According to Atlanta Journal Constitution reporter Tamar Hallerman, Powell will avoid jail time as part of the deal but will have six years of probation, and will also pay a $6,000 fine and a $2,700 restitution to the state.

The important bit being that because of the probation she has to give truthful testimony in future trials or the sky will fall on her head, according to her friend the wind (who talks to her, as she has previously affirmed.)

But I want to read that letter of apology!

BruceAndNosh · 19/10/2023 16:56

Trump will say he hardly knew her

SequentialAnalyst · 19/10/2023 16:53

Sorry, just re-read my post, and realised that the title of my link may seem offensive to the people of the US. Please be assured, my only motive was to link to nuanced historical analysis.

Apologies. My previous post in short: Biden is 10 years older than me, and seems to have distilled wisdom from 80+ years of lived experience.

BruceAndNosh · 19/10/2023 16:53

Powell has already recorded a proffer so they must have what they need on tape

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2023 16:33

greenacrylicpaint · 19/10/2023 15:51

hmm her pleading guilty meaning others are guilty by implication?

It means she has to provide truthful testimony in any of the other cases the DA asks her to.

They won't have given her such a walk if she had nothing.

Bearing in mind the unbelievable ego of this woman, to crush her into a guilty plea is quite an achievement.

I just hope she isn't expected to cross any parking lots anytime soon.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2023 15:52

Plea deal of some sort?

greenacrylicpaint · 19/10/2023 15:51

hmm her pleading guilty meaning others are guilty by implication?

BruceAndNosh · 19/10/2023 15:20

Breaking - Sidney Powell pleads guilty in Georgia election interference case.
Fined Six Fucking Thousand Dollars

SequentialAnalyst · 18/10/2023 20:23

Born on November 20th 1942 Biden is 3 months short of being 10 years older than me.
Like me, he has lived through many decades, and has had decades to think about what he has lived through. He realises that all most people want is for their children to grow up safe and happy, that the world is a complex place, that wars kill people, and can only be ended if people talk to each other about how to end them. And I expect he is as cynical, and hopeful, about human nature as I am. (Obvs just my take on him.)

He was 20 when the Beatles released their first single, Please Please Me, in the UK on 22nd March 1963. Over here, the whole population of the UK, it seemed to 10 year-old me, were instantly mesmerised, and the record shot up the record charts and got to No.1 in the UK. It got to No.155 in the US. (Check out the lyrics. They are actually quite frank about "necking" as I think you Americans call itGrin But nobody noticed, and John got away with itWink)

Times were hopeful, and JFK was President of the US. You know what happened next, and over the following decades...

The recent World War still cast a long shadow. Britain had declared war on Germany in September 1939. Biden had just had his first birthday when the US entered the War on December 11th 1941.

Here's a British article by an academic who studies this period
America and WW2: When, How And Why Did The US Enter And Why Not Sooner? | HistoryExtra.

DreamTheMoors · 18/10/2023 19:50

The Republicans have little interest In governing.
They want power and the money that gets - and keeps - them there.
—a former Republican

AcrossthePond55 · 18/10/2023 19:31

I think I share your fear.

The GOP is using a 'sapper' philosophy, too. They're trying to put radical GOPs into what appear to be 'low level' elected positions, but ones that have the power to change or overrule election results. This is something that the Dem Party is NOT putting enough energy towards IMHO.

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Lizzieregina · 18/10/2023 18:48

@AcrossthePond55 I can’t agree more with your post about the Tea Party. Newt Gingrich has a lot of answer for.

I sincerely hope that Gym Jordan keeps getting voted down.

if the Republicans could put forward someone middle of the road, I think they could get Democrats on bord, but the extreme right wing nuts will never go for that.

BruceAndNosh · 18/10/2023 18:32

Bloody annoying that the Repugs keep blaming the Dems for the impasse because they aren't voting for a GOP member. Well, Duh!

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