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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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AcrossthePond55 · 06/11/2023 15:38

Trump is on the stand. CNN has reporter in the courtroom and is doing a good continual update of the reporter's texts.

Trump acting true to form. Insulting the judge's integrity etc. Not answering the questions but going off on diatribes.

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DuncinToffee · 05/11/2023 20:28

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/upshot/polls-biden-trump-2024.html

One year out, Trump leads Biden.
The poll finds Biden is pretty badly damaged, but that there's still a path for Democrats to win.
Whether Biden can capitalize is the big question
https://x.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1721158469862973675?s=20

DuncinToffee · 03/11/2023 20:35

The judge overseeing Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial has expanded a gag order in the trial to extend to Trump’s attorneys after continued lengthy discussions about the judge’s communications with his law clerk during court this week.

CNN

SequentialAnalyst · 03/11/2023 14:19

King David and Trump would have understood each other only too well. From the information we have on each of them, they had/have pretty much the same attitude to life. I suspect David was quite bright though, and he was very effective, whereas Trump, not so muchGrin

David was a shepherd boy and harpist, who shot to fame after he killed Goliath with a slingshot. He had a bromance with Jonathan, and wrote a sad poem about him after Jonathan was killed.

After killing Goliath, he becomes a favourite of Saul, the first king of Israel, but is forced to go into hiding when Saul suspects that David is trying to take his throne. After Saul and his son Jonathan are killed in battle, David is anointed king by the tribe of Judah and eventually all the tribes of Israel. He conquers Jerusalem, makes it the capital of a united Israel, and brings the Ark of the Covenant to the city.

He liked a bit of pussy - after he spots Bathsheba, a married neighbour, bathing, while he is up the palace roof, he summons her. He gets her pregnant, and tries to pin the pregnancy on her husband UriahHmm who is a soldier. When this doesn't work, he sends Uriah to the most dangerous place on the front line. He makes Uriah himself carry this message, which is tantamount to a death sentence. After Uriah is indeed killed in battle, David marries Bathsheba, but the child lives only a few days. Their second son is Solomon.

David's son Absalom later tries to overthrow him, but David returns to Jerusalem after Absalom's death to continue his reign. David desires to build a temple to Yahweh but is denied because of the bloodshed in his reign. He dies at age 70 and chooses Solomon, his son with Bathsheba, as his successor instead of his eldest son Adonijah. David is honored as an ideal king and the forefather of the future Hebrew Messiah in Jewish prophetic literature and many psalms are attributed to him.

I summarised from Wikipedia. My bolding. Sorry about the embedded links.

BruceAndNosh · 03/11/2023 12:32

For all the online discussion about Biden or Trump Sr's possible senility, I'm quite concerned that Eric Trump can't seem to "recall" very much about anything.
Plus his excuse that he was "only 26" in 2012 /2013 shows how bad he is at figures, since he was 28 or 29 then...

SequentialAnalyst · 02/11/2023 21:24

Does he mean Solomon?

Doubtless Trump would misunderstand the Judgement of Solomon, in which two women claimed a child was theirs. The king decreed the child should be cut in two. I bet Trump would think that was what Solomon actually meant to happen.

But Solomon was wise, and he knew when he gave his decision that this would provide the evidence he needed.

From Wikipedia:
Solomon ordered the baby be cut in half, with each woman to receive one half. The first woman accepted the compromise as fair, but the second begged Solomon to give the baby to her rival, preferring the baby to live, even without her.

BruceAndNosh · 02/11/2023 15:14

Don Jr must have "cleaned up his act" for a week or so before testifying , as he doesn't seem to be his usual red sweaty hyper self in court...

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 02/11/2023 02:47

Yeah, there's plenty of other court stuff to keep him busy.

But this case is the one that's most clearly going against him.

BruceAndNosh · 02/11/2023 02:09

Cannon delaying the Mar a Lago docs trial frees up a handy space for judge Chutkan to slot in HER case, so it's actually good thing!

AcrossthePond55 · 01/11/2023 20:36

In other legal woes, apparently Judge Cannon is 'considering' postponing the Mar A Lago documents trial as " the defense team wouldn't be able to complete trial preparations between now and the spring". Trump's team has repeatedly asked it be postponed until after Nov 2024.

Everyone who's NOT surprised raise your hand. 🙋‍♀️ 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

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AcrossthePond55 · 01/11/2023 20:32

I think Accounting 101 also covered "You sign the form, you damned well better know what the hell you're signing!!!".

In my former job there was a woman who was faced with losing her home because she 'just signed the returns' that her husband prepared. The IRS told her it was her responsibility to know what she signed.

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SequentialAnalyst · 01/11/2023 20:11

"Oh, I leave all that kind of thing to my accountants"

Just no. And even Accounting 101 should tell you how to read a balance sheet. If you are involved in business, even as a hands-off investor, it's definitely a good idea to be able to read one. It tells you what you've got, what it's worth, and who you owe money to. And you can use the info in it when you inform the IRS, or ForbesWink, what your assets are worth.

The question is, who decides how much your assets are worth, how did they arrive at that valuation, and which head honcho in the business signed off the valuation? This is the crux of the case...Grin

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AgingDisgracefullyHere · 30/10/2023 23:28

That's what I like about Joe Walsh. He knows he was part of the problem.

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 30/10/2023 22:08

I'm in England.

I think it's midnight, at least.

SequentialAnalyst · 30/10/2023 19:46

@AgingDisgracefullyHere the podcast goes up at midnight and she is pretty good.

What timezone would that be? And come to think of it, where are you all, roughly? I know about Across...

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 30/10/2023 19:19

Sarah Palin was peak Tea Party. So that's when she got fed up.

You have to put up with some outliers you don't fully agree with in any party.

A character I find fascinating is Joe Walsh, who was a main player in the Tea Party. He used to say racist/Islamaphobic things about Obama, but since Trump he's left the GOP and has apologised for the things he said about Obama.

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 30/10/2023 19:15

I'm able to listen to her before I go to sleep as the podcast goes up at midnight and she is pretty good.

There's a lot of ex Republicans on msnbc. Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress. People think Chris Christie's campaign is an audition for a job with them lol.

Spandauer · 30/10/2023 14:53

More court room challenges this week for Doofus. But would these ignite Jan 6th-type insurrections in the 2 states if they succeeded in getting him off the ballot?

Dozens of cases citing the amendment have been filed in recent months, but the ones in Colorado and Minnesota seem the most important, according to legal experts. They were filed by two liberal groups with significant resources, and in states with a clear, swift process for challenges to candidates’ ballot qualifications.

That means the Colorado and Minnesota cases are taking a more legally sound route to get courts to force election officials to disqualify Trump, in contrast to other lawsuits that seek a sweeping ruling from federal judges that Trump is no longer eligible for the presidency.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/trump-14th-amendment-colorado-trial-jan-6?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Efforts to keep ‘insurrectionist’ Trump off 2024 ballot to be heard in court

Challengers bring cases that argue Trump should be removed under civil war-era ‘insurrection’ provision of 14th amendment

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/30/trump-14th-amendment-colorado-trial-jan-6?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

AcrossthePond55 · 30/10/2023 12:36

She is good! I've always found her to be very balanced, even back in the 'early days' when she was a vocal Republican. She used to be a speech writer & Comms Director for Dub-ya. Also worked on the 2008 McCain campaign.

In 2021 she described herself as a 'former' GOP. Don't know if she 'officially' changed parties, though.

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BruceAndNosh · 30/10/2023 02:04

Judge Chutkan has reinstated gag order on Trump which was briefly stayed
https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-reinstates-gag-order-trump-election-case-2023-10-29/
Violation incoming in 3,2,1...

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 29/10/2023 18:46

I agree! I relied upon her to get me through the Trump presidency.

Chris Haye is pretty good.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 29/10/2023 18:43

I agree, her take each day would be of great interest.

AcrossthePond55 · 29/10/2023 18:41

I just wish this would be televised!!! I'll be madly refreshing the 'live updates' article 'streams' on CNN & MSNBC.

And I wish that Rachel Maddow had her M-F show! I know she had good reasons to back away from the 5 night gig, but things are ramping up and we NEED her take on the day!!

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AgingDisgracefullyHere · 29/10/2023 18:33

That's gonna be a fun week on msnbc!

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