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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 21:59

Posted with you.

There weren't a lot of them as I recall. Just one (as in my post above) was rather frequent and annoying. Sort of like that annoying mosquito in your bedroom at night. You can hear them buzzing next to your head but no matter how many times you swat in their direction, you just can't seem to squash them.

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 21:56

I'm hoping we can avoid the bots this go 'round.

For the 'old timers' who remember the name of the poster/bot on our original threads back in '15 and '16, whatever you do don't turn the lights off, look in the mirror, and say their name 3 times. lol

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/01/2024 21:48

It would be even more so if so many of the posters on it were not shills or bots.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/01/2024 19:24

AcrossthePond55
The Dem electorate will need to have a HUGE voter turnout and Joe will have to pick up a goodly number of independent voters because I think that even the moderates in the GOP will vote the party line. They may hold their noses doing it, but they won't vote Dem.

A fair few Independents seem to have resented Dobbs vs Jackson enough to scupper the mid-term "red wave".

If enough Republicans don't vote at all, that'll be a help. There are already quite a number of Iowan Republicans who supported De Santis and Haley who say they won't vote for Trump no matter what, and a whole lot more nationwide saying that if he is found guilty on even one of the counts against him they won't vote for him; if these people stick with what they are saying now, the turnout in the coming election may be a little on the low side. Mind you, he has already been found guilty in the E Jean Carroll case and they don't seem to have minded about that, or maybe many have and are just not being asked....

But as has been said, polls this far out are pretty meaningless.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 19:05

AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 17:32

Same reason many Germans embraced Hitler. Because they believed he'd only 'dictate' against people other than themselves.

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How bloody depressing.

Slurred speech could be new teeth or a stroke or a mini stroke as you say. He's so unfit, I do just wonder how he still manages to string a sentence together

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 17:34

@Roussette

I've noticed his slurred speech too. Either new teeth, he's had a stroke, or he's burning his candle at both ends and is exhausting himself.

My mother said never ill-wish anyone, so I'll not comment on which I would like to be true.

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 17:32

DuncinToffee · 16/01/2024 10:36

Trump supporters seem to be embracing the 'dictatorship' idea, how did that happen?

Same reason many Germans embraced Hitler. Because they believed he'd only 'dictate' against people other than themselves.

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2024 17:29

Not surprised at Iowa & as far as I'm concerned Haley & DiSantis have no one to blame but themselves. By them both saying that not only would they vote for a convicted felon but that they'd actually pardon him, they've basically told the GOP electorate (moderates AND cult members) that Trump's behaviour and legal woes are to be ignored. That they're no big deal and/or a witch hunt. If you set those issues aside (and it seems the GOP and its electorate are) he speaks their language, even the moderates; anti immigration, pro guns, anti choice, and 'my troubles are the fault of 'the others'.

I think Trump will get the nomination no matter what his upcoming trials reveal. Whether or not he can beat Joe remains to be seen. The Dem electorate will need to have a HUGE voter turnout and Joe will have to pick up a goodly number of independent voters because I think that even the moderates in the GOP will vote the party line. They may hold their noses doing it, but they won't vote Dem.

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BruceAndNosh · 16/01/2024 16:54

Trump has turned up for first day (jury selection) of E Jean Carroll civil damages trial.
Judge already pissed off as T asked for week delay for travelling Tuesday and Wednesday for his MIL funeral on Thursday. (rejected) Then trump scheduled an event on New Hampshire Wednesday evening.
Habba has asked and been denied.

I suspect Trump is setting up Contempt of court with inappropriate testimony and daring Judge to sanction him...

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/01/2024 14:40

Ramaswamy has dropped out.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/15/vivek-ramaswamy-republican-presidential-nomination

Lizzieregina · 16/01/2024 14:04

I’ve said all along, if the non MAGA people could consolidate to one opponent for Trump, he’d be toast.

I think Haley will have a shot to beat him in New Hampshire, more so if DeSantis and Ramaswamy get out of the race, but their egos won’t allow that. It’s 2016 all over again. Too many candidates.

Darkandstormynite · 16/01/2024 13:57

Interestingly though, if you drill down into the Iowa results, Trump got just over 50% of the votes from a very conservative Republican base on a very low turnout volume.

Now the turnout can be attributed to the weather, understandably. But, Trump was crowing that 95% of the Republican party was now MAGA. So these results are actually much weaker than they would appear.

Also, 7/10 Hailey voters said they would not support Trump if convicted, but only 4/10 Trump supporters said they wouldn't support Hailey.

I suspect the orange one is more than a little worried behind the scenes.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 13:30

greenacrylicpaint · 16/01/2024 08:10

so. Iowa.

what do the republican party see in the orange one?
what do they see that we don't (or the other way round)?

God knows.

As an aside. I think he's got new teeth. And is moving to American Tan colour of false tan, I've never seen him look so orange as in Iowa.

What on earth are people on to vote for him again...

newnamethanks · 16/01/2024 12:44

No voice can be worse to listen to than Trump's own. I have to turn sound off when he speaks, makes me shudder.

DuncinToffee · 16/01/2024 10:57

Quite a few Trump threads are popping up on MN, guess his fans are starting to feel safe again

Darkandstormynite · 16/01/2024 10:43

What do you think will be the financial penalty imposed in the E. Jean Carroll case?

$148M for Giuliani set a new record.

Will be interesting to see what Engoron imposes as well. Pundits are suggesting >$500M

borntobequiet · 16/01/2024 10:42

I hope the caucuses (I understand there aren’t many states that still use these) and primaries give a misleading picture of Trump’s popularity, and eventually scupper him.

DuncinToffee · 16/01/2024 10:36

Trump supporters seem to be embracing the 'dictatorship' idea, how did that happen?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/01/2024 10:19

The Trumpsters also think that anything said against Trump is a lie. They actively expect everything to be lies.

But they are actually fewer than half the Republican voters, for all that very slightly over half the primary votes in Iowa went his way.

If I were wanting to vote against Trump in Iowa I wouldn't bother to go out in a snowstorm, whereas his fanatical cult-members will.

PerkingFaintly · 16/01/2024 10:14

There was a James Comey interview a while back, and of the Trumpists he said simply, "Lies work. That's why they tell them."

newnamethanks · 16/01/2024 09:55

Oh America. What happened to you?

greenacrylicpaint · 16/01/2024 08:10

so. Iowa.

what do the republican party see in the orange one?
what do they see that we don't (or the other way round)?

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AcrossthePond55 · 11/01/2024 20:53

Today in Trumpworld. CNN live update article on Trump's court appearance today. I believe closing arguments from the AG's office are still going on.

Also, he's announced that he's going to attend E Jean Carroll's Defamation Suit trial next week. Wonder if he's going to demand to speak at that one, too. He intends to 'tell the judge he has no idea who she is'.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-civil-fraud-trial-01-11-24/index.html

CNN - Live updates: Trump civil fraud trial closing arguments

Live updates: Trump civil fraud trial closing arguments

The judge overseeing the New York civil fraud trial against former President Donald Trump is hearing closing oral arguments on Thursday. Follow here for the latest live news updates.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-civil-fraud-trial-01-11-24/index.html

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greenacrylicpaint · 11/01/2024 15:06

watching with hslf an eye as in a very boooooooooring meeting

the hair/suits/make up of the lawyers (male and female)look like hard work. do they all have an hour set aside each morning for grooming?

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2024 18:46

Darkandstormynite · 10/01/2024 18:27

What do you think of the accusations being thrown at Fani Willis now?

People who are going to believe them are going to believe them. On the other hand people with brains will wonder how on earth it took untold millions of dollars of legal expertise so long to uncover whatever it is they are claiming.

It says more about their desperation than anything.

And the best thing about team Trump is they've been totally and utterly unable to make any provision for Trump losing. Because Trump ordered them not to.

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