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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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BruceAndNosh · 31/01/2024 22:27

No Verdict from Judge Engoron yet. Possibly he's doing a last minute rewrite after the damning report from Monitor overseeing Trump org finances.

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/01/2024 20:33

Roussette · 31/01/2024 16:42

My goodness, people who had stupidly donated their $10, $50 or whatever to MAGA have their donations used for legal fees? The trouble is, I don't suppose they mind..... 😯😮

No, they don't. IIRC when he started the fund that was to be for his legal fees there was like $3m donated in the first 24 hours, most of them in 'small' donations.

Wish I could find those people. I have bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell them.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/01/2024 17:35

I don't know it of my own knowledge, as it were, so I had to be a little cagey about it. Certainly the suggestion that it would be criminal if he did so has come from more than one US lawyer; and in that case it could become another trial, whichever way it ultimately went.

SinnerBoy · 31/01/2024 17:26

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Today 16:56

I am reasonably sure that what he can't do is use campaign donations to pay his fines.

I read that that is absolutely forbidden, it may have been in the Guardian.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/01/2024 16:56

I am reasonably sure that what he can't do is use campaign donations to pay his fines. To do so would be criminal (and there we have yet another legal case on the offing, then).

Roussette · 31/01/2024 16:42

My goodness, people who had stupidly donated their $10, $50 or whatever to MAGA have their donations used for legal fees? The trouble is, I don't suppose they mind..... 😯😮

BruceAndNosh · 31/01/2024 16:36

DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 12:23

Trump is looking for a new law firm to represent him in the appeal.

To be fair, Trump needs a specialist appelate lawyer.
Preferably with more brains and less pouty lip gloss

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/01/2024 16:32

@DuncinToffee

So I guess the quarterly reporting was what you had seen but neither of us could find the 'source'.

It will be interesting. I know there are strict rules about what campaign donations can be used for. But I think one of the PACs he set up specifically mentioned (in the fine print) that funds would be used for legal fees. Whether it's one of the PACS mentioned in your post or not I don't know.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-trump-use-political-donations-pay-legal-defense-2023-08-01/

Sounds like it may be a tricky/grey area hinging on whether or not the legal fees can be considered a legitimate expense. And Trump could argue that a candidate 'defending his honour' (my words) in court is a legitimate expense and directly tied to his campaign. Sheesh. Will this end up being ANOTHER court case?

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DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 15:54

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-50-million-donor-money-legal-bills-2023-1234956948/

Trump's PACs spent a staggering $50 million on the former president’s legal defense in 2023,

According to two sources who spoke to the Times, the former president’s massive legal bills were paid out through funds from the Save America PAC and the Make America Great Again PAC, his two primary political action committees. The full details of the PAC spending will be made available Wednesday, the deadline for Federal Election Commission year-end campaign filings.

SinnerBoy · 31/01/2024 13:50

Hitched her mule to the Trump cart.

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 31/01/2024 13:46

DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 12:23

Trump is looking for a new law firm to represent him in the appeal.

Poor alina habba whatever did she do wrong 😂

DuncinToffee · 31/01/2024 12:23

Trump is looking for a new law firm to represent him in the appeal.

Roussette · 30/01/2024 20:04

AcrossthePond55 · 30/01/2024 19:32

I guess it's just the difference in the US and Pakistani judicial systems. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Maybe we can get a change of venue for the myriad Trump trials to Rawalpindi?

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Oh yes! I'll pay for his airfare!

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AcrossthePond55 · 30/01/2024 19:32

Roussette · 30/01/2024 11:16

I know my knowledge is superficial but I am at a loss to understand why Imran Khan can be jailed for 10 years for 'leaking official secrets' yet Trumpy who has stolen classified documents and undoubtedly done the same repeatedly... is running for POTUS.

Months into his presidency Trumpy revealed state secrets to Russian officials in the Oval office, causing huge problems with the CIA who had to remove one of their men because of this. He even tweeted classified photos of spy satellite pictures of Iran. At MarALardo dining area he disclosed classified information to anyone who would listen. He's revealed code word intel meaning huge security threats to the US. He tells anyone where US submarines are. And more

It's beyond me, I can't get my head round it all.

I guess it's just the difference in the US and Pakistani judicial systems. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Maybe we can get a change of venue for the myriad Trump trials to Rawalpindi?

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AcrossthePond55 · 30/01/2024 19:27

SerendipityJane · 30/01/2024 12:40

Anyone else feel a small smile at the conspiracy theorists meeting MAGA

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/god-s-army-border-truck-convoy-falls-flat-amid-right-wing-honeypot-paranoia-report/ar-BB1hrKJA

Oh FGS! They can't even keep conspiracy theories out of their own conspiracy theories. What a bunch of maroons!

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BruceAndNosh · 30/01/2024 19:06

One of Carroll's lawyers, on Habba...
Crowley said: "I think that she had a hard job and you could definitely see a difference between her sort of style when [Trump] was in the court room."
She added: "She was much more disciplined and frankly acted more like a lawyer when he wasn't there. When he was, you could hear him telling her when to object and muttering things and loudly being frustrated with her"

Darkandstormynite · 30/01/2024 15:05

Has anyone seen that Alina Habba is now accusing Judge Kaplan of having a prior relationship with Robbie Kaplan, which she is claiming is why she wasn't treated fairly. She's demanding the judge explain himself!

Is she trying to get sanctioned again and debarred??

https://www.newsweek.com/alina-habba-conflict-judge-kaplan-e-jean-carroll-lawyer-1865169

SerendipityJane · 30/01/2024 15:05

There was a lot of reporting a while back that the GOP vote was probably going to be depressed because a lot of MAGA types - never known for their affinity for effort - had swallowed the idea that the system was rigged and decided there was no point in voting if what Trump said was true.

One can't help but remember what happened to the man who proved black was white.

DuncinToffee · 30/01/2024 13:09

I guess the other conspiracy theorist were too busy with Taylor Swift Grin

Roussette · 30/01/2024 11:16

I know my knowledge is superficial but I am at a loss to understand why Imran Khan can be jailed for 10 years for 'leaking official secrets' yet Trumpy who has stolen classified documents and undoubtedly done the same repeatedly... is running for POTUS.

Months into his presidency Trumpy revealed state secrets to Russian officials in the Oval office, causing huge problems with the CIA who had to remove one of their men because of this. He even tweeted classified photos of spy satellite pictures of Iran. At MarALardo dining area he disclosed classified information to anyone who would listen. He's revealed code word intel meaning huge security threats to the US. He tells anyone where US submarines are. And more

It's beyond me, I can't get my head round it all.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2024 10:19

I love E Jean Carroll for deciding to spend the majority of the money Trump will be compelled to give her on setting up homeless shelters and shelters for abused women as close to next door as can be managed to Trump's properties. Setting them up at all will be a perpetual annoyance to him even if they can't be next door. Good for her!

BruceAndNosh · 30/01/2024 10:16

Judge Engoron has confirmed that he will release his verdict tomorrow.
If only the DC Appeal court would do the same with Immunity decision

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AcrossthePond55 · 29/01/2024 23:33

DuncinToffee · 29/01/2024 16:55

I don't know, I am hoping someone on here would have more information as I can't find it.

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I can't either. Sometimes google just doesn't work if you don't use the right combo of words.

This was the closest I could find but reporting isn't til 1 Apr.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/filing-reports/quarterly-reports/

Quarterly reports - FEC.gov

When House, Senate and presidential candidates must file quarterly campaign finance reports with the Federal Election Commission. Due dates and coverage periods for quarterly reports from federal campaigns.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/filing-reports/quarterly-reports/

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Darkandstormynite · 29/01/2024 20:28

BTW, has anyone else noticed that the mood music on Fox is changing and its starting to be more critical of Trump?

Suspect they know which way the wind is now blowing and trying to position themselves for the post MAGA world.