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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 12:51

Comfort chocolate? Grin

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 12:41

That last post was from me, who now needs to lose 20k yesterday.

Lose10kyesterday · 09/02/2024 12:38

AcrossthePond55 · 08/02/2024 19:59

So, media reports are that SCOTUS is going to side w/Trump on the issue of removing him from ballots.

https://apple.news/Apj0OBZ3iQHC818J4fB4gAw

Oh, FFS. I am horrified to see that these threads have been going since January 2017 and we are still not rid of this treacherous, lying, narcissistic, snollygoster - and what's more, he is STILL being supported by a large swathe of the voting population. What is wrong with the world?

lljkk · 09/02/2024 10:18

So much for this then, I suppose,.

Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?
Lizzieregina · 08/02/2024 21:34

I’m not surprised by this potential ruling. I listened to a bunch of it this morning and I didn’t get a good vibe that we’d be finally rid of him.

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AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2024 01:00

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2024 19:34

Does anyone know when Judge Engoro's verdict is due?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-weisselberg-engoron-perjury-civil-fraud-4d598852ee1cafa7ef9976452b42e6a2

Judge Engoron is apparently looking into possible perjury by Weisselberg, the Trump ORG CFO. I assume there will be no decision until the issue of this possible perjury has been resolved since it may have bearing on Judge Engoron's decision.

FILE - The Trump Organization's former Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg arrives at a New York courtroom, Nov. 15, 2022. Manhattan prosecutors are weighing a potential perjury charge against Weisselberg, Donald Trump’s former corporate finance...

Judge wants answers after report that key witness in Trump fraud trial may plead guilty to perjury

The judge in Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial is demanding more information after a key witness was reported to be in negotiations to plead guilty to a perjury in connection with his testimony in the case.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-weisselberg-engoron-perjury-civil-fraud-4d598852ee1cafa7ef9976452b42e6a2

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DuncinToffee · 06/02/2024 19:34

Does anyone know when Judge Engoro's verdict is due?

SerendipityJane · 06/02/2024 19:20

It'll go to the Supreme Court

Not necessarily. They can choose to decline to hear the case - essentially signalling they agree with the lower courts judgement.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2024 18:47

BruceAndNosh · 06/02/2024 17:26

The 3 judge ruling gives Trump deadline of one week to file appeal to Supreme Court, otherwise ruling stands. This prevents him from delaying matters further by requesting an interim En Banc appeal .

If we are really lucky, his incompetent lawyering team will miss the deadline. You know, like the way they forgot to ask for a jury in one of the cases....

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AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2024 18:04

BruceAndNosh · 06/02/2024 17:26

The 3 judge ruling gives Trump deadline of one week to file appeal to Supreme Court, otherwise ruling stands. This prevents him from delaying matters further by requesting an interim En Banc appeal .

He'll make the deadline and it looks like SCOTUS is delaying as long as it can in making decisions on any of the cases.

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BruceAndNosh · 06/02/2024 17:26

The 3 judge ruling gives Trump deadline of one week to file appeal to Supreme Court, otherwise ruling stands. This prevents him from delaying matters further by requesting an interim En Banc appeal .

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2024 17:18

That makes it entirely possible for the Supreme Court simply to decline to hear the case, doesn't it? That would be interesting. After all, they would probably rather not be seen adjudicating on this can of worms or having obvious political bias.

BruceAndNosh · 06/02/2024 16:56

prettybird · 06/02/2024 15:20

It'll go to the Supreme Court but one step at a time Wink

Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity, US court rules https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68026175

Even though the Supreme Court is currently conservative with Trump appointees, they may surprise him because I believe that as well as being conservatives, they are also (or perhaps "because they are conservatives" Wink), they are also strict constitutionalists.

Unanimous verdict. All three judges agreed to no immunity

billyt · 06/02/2024 16:26

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2024 16:20

I am beginning to be with Ann Coulter.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ann-coulters-trump-could-die-remark-sparks-outcry/ar-BB1hLQPG

Edited

Yep, definitely make the world a better and safer place.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2024 16:20

I am beginning to be with Ann Coulter.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ann-coulters-trump-could-die-remark-sparks-outcry/ar-BB1hLQPG

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AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2024 15:33

Trump wants any/all trials delayed until after the election so the word 'convicted' can't be used against him in ads.

I get that everything is going to end up before SCOTUS, but it's just so frustrating!

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prettybird · 06/02/2024 15:20

It'll go to the Supreme Court but one step at a time Wink

Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity, US court rules https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68026175

Even though the Supreme Court is currently conservative with Trump appointees, they may surprise him because I believe that as well as being conservatives, they are also (or perhaps "because they are conservatives" Wink), they are also strict constitutionalists.

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AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2024 13:51

Who's surprised at this? Not me. Yertle the Turtle has been kissing Trump's ass since Day 1. He may have tried to 'assert his independence' but like a whipped dog, he came crawling back.

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Spandauer · 06/02/2024 08:48

Looks like he's already caved in. Although can't see any news sources to verify this at moment.

McConnell is responsible for the orange monster that the Republicans have created. I do not wish him well.

Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?
SerendipityJane · 03/02/2024 17:34

AcrossthePond55 · 03/02/2024 14:41

@SerendipityJane

You've got that right. Trump plays directly from Machiavelli's playbook.

Definition of Machiavellian theory:

Machiavellianism is associated with the doctrine of moral expediency and deviousness in political actions; the divorce of politics from private morality; and the justification of all political means, even the most unscrupulous when the interests of the state are at stake.

Of course Machiavelli was writing in an age of city states (harking back to Greece and Rome) and his was advice any ruler who wanted to stay alive would need.

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AcrossthePond55 · 03/02/2024 14:41

@SerendipityJane

You've got that right. Trump plays directly from Machiavelli's playbook.

Definition of Machiavellian theory:

Machiavellianism is associated with the doctrine of moral expediency and deviousness in political actions; the divorce of politics from private morality; and the justification of all political means, even the most unscrupulous when the interests of the state are at stake.

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SerendipityJane · 03/02/2024 09:20

Imagine all you had was money. Or rather the illusion of money.

And you wanted to short circuit the tedious traditional route to power, and not put the effort in.

You would eventually hit upon a strategy where your the publicity your wealth affords can be used to lay the ground for a popular narrative that whatever the actual outcome of an election, you won.

You would then continue to use that publicity to make the masses engage in an insurrection and attain your goals.

It's been a long time since I read Machiavelli, but I have a sneaking memory there is nothing new under the sun.

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