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Trump gets gagged, McCarthy gets booted. What's next in Trumpworld?

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/10/2023 13:20

Roll up, roll up for the GOP Mystery Tour!! Trump thread lost-the-count!!!

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/02/2024 14:18

Congress have voted 214-213 to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas, though I am not at all sure what they impeached him for. Nor whether he therefore has to stop doing his job while they witter on about him.

Anyway, as far as I can make out it's the first thing they have managed actually to do (as opposed to prevent) since they gave McCarthy the boot, so I suppose they must be feeling pleased with themselves. Supposing Steve Scalise hadn't got back in the nick of time from his cancer treatment it would have been 213-213 and they would have looked all nohow yet again. What does happen if it's a dead heat? Do they have to take it away and try again?

Spandauer · 14/02/2024 08:38

Also good news.

Suozzi wins New York special election, replacing George Santos.

The Democrat prevailed in a race that centered heavily on immigration
https://wapo.st/3HZ2FFD

The win is a significant one for Democrats in that it flips a seat.
This was a district Republicans won just 15 months ago by eight points, and Suozzi’s win was comfortable enough that the race was called just over an hour after polls closed, with about half the vote in.

It means Republicans’ narrow House majority will become even narrower: 219-213. (Two GOP-leaning seats are vacant, as is one Democratic-leaning one. Republicans probably won’t have a chance to restore their seven-seat majority until June.)

AcrossthePond55 · 14/02/2024 00:57

@Spandauer

From your keyboard to God's monitor.

A huge civil penalty isn't going to carry the weight of a criminal conviction, but it's a start!

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Spandauer · 13/02/2024 23:10

Are we finally going to see Trump getting some sh*t that sticks?

Judge Arthur Engoron is expect to issue his long-awaited ruling in former President Donald Trump's $370 million civil fraud trial on Friday, a source told the New York Daily News Tuesday.
"Barring unforeseen circumstances," of course.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/judge-engoron-trump-2667275150-2667275150

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/02/2024 15:50

@SerendipityJane - I see it as the complete and deliberate misunderstanding of the difference between fact and fiction. Even if you know it's dark outside, according to "my truth", you are wrong as I believe there is daylight at the same time and in the same place. It is beyond infuriating. "Because I say so."

SerendipityJane · 13/02/2024 14:42

"Habba also sought to suggest that Trump was merely exercising his right to free speech when he called Carroll a liar. “It’s an American right,” she said."

Another attempt to remove consequences from actions.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/02/2024 14:32

This sentence leapt out at me from the linked article in today's London Times:

"Habba also sought to suggest that Trump was merely exercising his right to free speech when he called Carroll a liar. “It’s an American right,” she said."

That seems to me to sum up the state of mind of much of the US voting population and also, to some extent, that of the UK. It terrifies me.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ashlee-humphreys-donald-trump-prosecution-social-media-expert-xzqkd9nbf

Meet the social media expert who is key to prosecuting Donald Trump

Ashlee Humphreys is proving to be a thorn in the former president’s side — so much so that his legal team have tried to exclude her from court proceedings

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ashlee-humphreys-donald-trump-prosecution-social-media-expert-xzqkd9nbf

PerkingFaintly · 11/02/2024 20:11

DuncinToffee · 11/02/2024 10:36

Yes, amongst others, 2 former UK Prime Ministers, Truss and Johnson, are endorsing Trump

Truss and Johnson are official endorsing TFG? Shock

Well let's see if that endorsement survives TFG saying he encourages Russia to invade.

SerendipityJane · 11/02/2024 14:47

At least it's raising headlines outside the US. And it does start to put pressure on some would be backers in the UK.

Poor Farage. Still can't quite know if he should stay or go.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/02/2024 14:19

SequentialAnalyst
“One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said,

Oh, then we know it's a lie. Why would the president of another country address Trump as "sir"? But the invented people in his self-aggrandising myths always do.

Sometimes they sob as well.

PerkingFaintly · 11/02/2024 13:14

I know. There isn't an eyeroll large enough...

SequentialAnalyst · 11/02/2024 12:55

Quote from today's Observer/Guardian

'On Saturday, Trump claimed that during an unspecified Nato meeting he told a fellow head of state that the US under his leadership would not defend any countries who were “delinquent”.

“One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said, adding “I said, ‘You didn’t pay, you’re delinquent?’”

“No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”'

Bolding added by me.

DuncinToffee · 11/02/2024 10:36

Yes, amongst others, 2 former UK Prime Ministers, Truss and Johnson, are endorsing Trump

SerendipityJane · 11/02/2024 10:27

DuncinToffee · 11/02/2024 09:17

So he actually said it. Will it make his supporters think? Probably not

Trump says he would encourage Russia to attack NATO allies:

I said I would not protect our NATO allies. In fact, I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want

Just FTOAD:

I said I would not protect our NATO allies. In fact, I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want

Remember there are serious UK politicians - and Liz Truss - queueing up to suck Trumps cock.

But Jeremy Corbyn ...

DuncinToffee · 11/02/2024 09:17

So he actually said it. Will it make his supporters think? Probably not

Trump says he would encourage Russia to attack NATO allies:

I said I would not protect our NATO allies. In fact, I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want

SinnerBoy · 09/02/2024 19:06

Thanks, I'm on my laptop now, but you've save me the bother!

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 18:57

It's always the problem. They'd be bringing us down to their level.

SinnerBoy · 09/02/2024 17:35

Moira Donegan has an interesting take on the Colorado / SC hearing, in the US section of the Guardian. I have trouble linking on the phone.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/02/2024 16:50

"If you were told you had 24 hours to live, how would you spend the time before you died?" My immediate instinctive reaction was: "Kill Trump and his supporters. With a legal firearm, of course."

My DH says exactly the same thing!!

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 14:23

@PerkingFaintly - Virtual Cake much appreciated. I decide this morning to cut the wine and desserts out from today! Not helped as I haven't been able to weigh myself since I fell so have no idea how much I have actually gained!
Sorry for the thread divergence. Back to the point (-ish). I recently saw the question: "If you were told you had 24 hours to live, how would you spend the time before you died?" My immediate instinctive reaction was: "Kill Trump and his supporters. With a legal firearm, of course."

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 14:08

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 13:50

Grin Yes, but not quite in the way you meant - I broke my foot a month ago and have been eating my weight in the wrong kind of food whilst unable to move except to occasionally hop (not even skip) to my loo when desperate. I've just been told I've got another fortnight of this, so it'll be at least 25 kilos by the time I'm walking properly again!

Oh good lord! Poor you!

Have some calorie-free virtual Cake. Must keep morale up!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 14:01

AcrossthePond55 · 09/02/2024 13:42

I think we've been here since before 2017. IIRC the first thread was prior to the Nov 2016 election. I figure we've been 'going strong' at least 8 years.

Scary, isn't it? Hitler was 'in power' from 1933 to 1945, 12 years. Although Trump was only technically 'in power' for 4 years, his influence appears to be trying to beat Hitler's record.

Oh, yes, there were definitely a large number of Trump threads in 2016, but I think that these particular, more cohesive, numbered ones on AIBU, which were filled by horrified people, as opposed to by crowing Trump supporters, began in the run up to the inauguration ceremony in January 2017. Still an awfully long time to be running, either way. I genuinely thought he would have to have been impeached and sent to prison during his Presidential term, my ghast is still well and truly flabbered that we (well, you all, anyway) are still crazy here after all these years.
I suppose nowadays, Trump's influence is comparatively much further reaching than Hitler's was.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 13:50

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 12:51

Comfort chocolate? Grin

Grin Yes, but not quite in the way you meant - I broke my foot a month ago and have been eating my weight in the wrong kind of food whilst unable to move except to occasionally hop (not even skip) to my loo when desperate. I've just been told I've got another fortnight of this, so it'll be at least 25 kilos by the time I'm walking properly again!

AcrossthePond55 · 09/02/2024 13:42

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/02/2024 12:41

That last post was from me, who now needs to lose 20k yesterday.

I think we've been here since before 2017. IIRC the first thread was prior to the Nov 2016 election. I figure we've been 'going strong' at least 8 years.

Scary, isn't it? Hitler was 'in power' from 1933 to 1945, 12 years. Although Trump was only technically 'in power' for 4 years, his influence appears to be trying to beat Hitler's record.

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