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Do you agree with homework in Primary

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Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 13:03

I disagree with homework in primary school and quite frankly im amazed its still handed out and expected.

I have 3 DC in primary school and we have never done homework, my theory is that my children have enough education in school and as parents we should educate outside of school however we see fit.

For us this includes them reading books, Harry potter, Jacqueline Wilson, david Williams etc - we are lucky that my children love reading.

They will always participate in school talks/presentations and projects.

All my children are involved within the school Litter picking committees, School newspaper, music lessons within school.

And furthermore they are in competitive level sports outwith school which require substantial training hours.

Local days out like airshows, community days and city celebrations.

Ive noticed that most teachers my Dcs have had through the years really agree that homework is not required in primary yet we have this year we have came up against a teacher that says its required for my oldest DC.

I still said no, am i being unreasonable.

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Hedgesgalore · 28/09/2023 15:08

When mine were in primary I asked ds's teacher to not give homework over the weekends and school holidays.

I explained that during the week there was time to do homework but that weekends and school holidays were strictly family time.

It fell on deaf ears. The few times we didn't hand in summer holiday homework resulted in a snippy note in their books.

One year the summer project was a beach scene in a shoe box (ffs), did the project, happily glued in real frozen prawns to add a bit of realism.

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 28/09/2023 15:06

NumberTheory · 28/09/2023 15:04

If a school accepts my child they agree to my rules.

Did you make them aware of your 'rules' and tell them that those were going to be applied when you accepted the place?

NumberTheory · 28/09/2023 15:04

RoomOfRequirement · 28/09/2023 14:43

If you choose to send your child to school you agree to their rules. If that means homework, you support the teacher in doing their homework. You're not special, your kids aren't better than everyone else, and if their class requires homework of the class they should do their homework.

Or you home ed.

If a school accepts my child they agree to my rules.

Snowinjulyy · 28/09/2023 15:02

A reading book and spellings every week is actually useful for me to understand what my child is capable of and help him progress as sadly he's not a natural reader and is a little behind where he should be. (Despite our best efforts reading to him since he was a baby he's just not fussed about books.) I can see why it wouldn't seem as important if your children love to read for fun, but I'm not sure I'd be able to convince mine to read with me if it wasn't his homework.

JudgeJ · 28/09/2023 15:01

Lovehearts82 · 28/09/2023 13:15

I dont agree with any sort of homework apart from GSCE level revising.

In the GCSE years, 9-12, homework generally serves as a practice of newly taught skills, in the same way that a child will practice music for example outside of the regular lesson. The syllabus is so full that spending a lot of time in the classroom practising a skill would be wasteful.
Would those who disapprove of Homework also stop them practising their music etc?

MariaVT65 · 28/09/2023 15:00

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 28/09/2023 13:13

I don’t agree with it. My dd is year 4 and has never had homework yet. My nephew just started year 1 and had homework this week to complete a full family tree including photos of each family member as a baby 😂I think his dad did it for him in the end.

I think this is the kind of thing i’d especially object to as it sounds like it actually requires more effort from the parent than the child!

Lancasterel · 28/09/2023 14:57

I don’t agree with homework in primary bar reading and spellings, but would be uneasy with telling my children to ignore teachers’ instructions. Also, my children would hate to get told off for not doing it!

Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 14:56

PollyPut · 28/09/2023 14:51

Sums/spellings isn't about hard work though. It's about making sure they are properly ready for secondary.

Either they can spell the words (in which case spellings homework takes 5 minutes) or they can't (in which case they should learn them now - secondary schools don't do spellings - just primaries). They should also make sure they understand what the spellings actually mean - which is often overlooked.

If you want them in higher maths sets in secondary then it's common sense to practice the sums now.

Have you looked at their school maths books? Have you asked the teacher if they are getting all their maths work done in lessons? If they are working slowly and only finishing half of the maths in class then you can see why school would want them to practice sums at home too.

If they stay in competitive sport then they will continue with long hours. I'd be getting as much educational groundwork done at primary.

At parents night, albeit it was in march they are fully keeping up with maths and within the top groups.

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Orangewall · 28/09/2023 14:54

DD has just started year 1 and we’re already seeing reading - easily done as we’ve always read to her, maths apps - not keen on this as I’d prefer to limit screen time during the week not increase it, handwriting practice - cursive and it’s a nightmare.

I’ve also been informed by DD and other parents that if the ‘homework’ isn’t completed, they have to finish it off in break and lunchtime. Strikes me as a way to kill a love for learning especially at 5 years old. I’ve been informed by the school that they haven’t even started learning times tables in class yet and we’re supposed to be completing them on this maths app, which also seems unfair.

Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 14:51

RoomOfRequirement · 28/09/2023 14:43

If you choose to send your child to school you agree to their rules. If that means homework, you support the teacher in doing their homework. You're not special, your kids aren't better than everyone else, and if their class requires homework of the class they should do their homework.

Or you home ed.

So any rule goes, if a school says so thats it.

My children are respectful, well behaved and within the top groups within their classes.

Im aware education ebbs and flows, at the moment they are doing well, if that changes we will of course adapt, but right now i choose not to meander along in life going by someone elses rules without any thought or research to back up what they are saying or infact disprove it.

I fully support education, teachers and school settings, that does not mean i follow every rule because they have said. I am allowed to have my own thoughts without it been seeing as an all or nothing type situation.

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Brainfogmcfogface · 28/09/2023 14:51

Nope. Don’t agree with it at all. I don’t force mine to do it, I don’t engage with it or ask if it’s been done, don’t check the book etc, school are aware of my views. When we are at home we relax and do what we want to, I’m not forcing my children to do something that should be covered in school hours. We read everyday anyway a mixture of home and school library books, even during lockdown as we had no access to a laptop and couldn’t complete the work, school said as long as they read that’s the most important thing, my kids are doing fine without it. And any time homework rewards are given out, my kids get a treat too.

PollyPut · 28/09/2023 14:51

Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 14:38

27 hours min between 2 children not including weekends. 3rd DC too young and doesn't have homework yet.

Valid points though, however i am hoping that schoolwork combined with their competitive training, our parenting style and the extra optional school clubs ( that the kids choose to do within lunchtime & Breaks) has instilled in them hard work that will naturally carry forward for their secondary school.

Sums/spellings isn't about hard work though. It's about making sure they are properly ready for secondary.

Either they can spell the words (in which case spellings homework takes 5 minutes) or they can't (in which case they should learn them now - secondary schools don't do spellings - just primaries). They should also make sure they understand what the spellings actually mean - which is often overlooked.

If you want them in higher maths sets in secondary then it's common sense to practice the sums now.

Have you looked at their school maths books? Have you asked the teacher if they are getting all their maths work done in lessons? If they are working slowly and only finishing half of the maths in class then you can see why school would want them to practice sums at home too.

If they stay in competitive sport then they will continue with long hours. I'd be getting as much educational groundwork done at primary.

Parker231 · 28/09/2023 14:50

Anyfeckinusername · 28/09/2023 14:42

You're BU.

A small amount of homework is needed to set the habit up for secondary. They'd keep over in school if it hit them for the first time in secondary.

How amazing then that my DC’s manage to cope so well moving from primary, where they didn’t do any homework to senior where they had a mandatory homework club.

Sandysandwich · 28/09/2023 14:45

As a concept no, because especially in infants- it is not in the childs control if they can do that homework. If it needs an adult to assist e.g learning something they haven't practiced or getting info from the internet or a textbook then its just a test of who has parents with free time and who doesn't.

As a kid, if I couldn't do the work independently then there was going to be nobody to help me (parents worked late and I had siblings to help with and chores to do) and I had to miss playtimes to make up for something I never had a chance of being able to do. I wanted to read everyday and I'm sure my education would have benefitted, but my home life was not able to facilitate that before I could read fully on my own.

I like the sending home of reading books, wonderful if a kid gets more opportunities to read - but if a parent has to do it with them and fill out a log- its a parent test nothing to do with the childs ability or willingness to work.

RoomOfRequirement · 28/09/2023 14:43

If you choose to send your child to school you agree to their rules. If that means homework, you support the teacher in doing their homework. You're not special, your kids aren't better than everyone else, and if their class requires homework of the class they should do their homework.

Or you home ed.

Anyfeckinusername · 28/09/2023 14:43

Anyfeckinusername · 28/09/2023 14:42

You're BU.

A small amount of homework is needed to set the habit up for secondary. They'd keep over in school if it hit them for the first time in secondary.

Jesus my typos, they'd KEEL OVER in shock

Rose38 · 28/09/2023 14:43

towriteyoumustlive · 28/09/2023 13:06

It depends what the HW is.

Our school set reading and times tables as homework then have optional extras.

Asking a parent to listen to their child read 5x a week is perfectly fine. I have no objection to helping them learn their tables either as they're essential.

Anything else I tend not to so as we're too busy so we only do a couple of the extra tasks over the year.

Wow my daughter's school is the same...lol..is it possible it's the same school?

In her school in London, they used to give different homework. But we moved last year and in this place I've been really happy that they only have the reading which should happen 5 times a week and then there is a couple of maths apps that they should do but there's no set amount of time etc. The school likes to focus on reading which I think at that age is important. My daughter has definitely improved in that area of school since coming here.

KidneyWarrior · 28/09/2023 14:43

Teacher here. I disagree with homework at primary and secondary school. Catch up work is helpful at GCSE level, but no more. It normalises blurring the lines between home and school/work which I don't think is healthy for children or adults.

Anyfeckinusername · 28/09/2023 14:42

You're BU.

A small amount of homework is needed to set the habit up for secondary. They'd keep over in school if it hit them for the first time in secondary.

BrawnWild · 28/09/2023 14:41

5 hours of one teacher across 30 kids. Not including PE, assembly, forest school and trips. Do the maths on how much 1:1 time each child gets per day or week and how much they are chatting to their mates.

Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 14:40

BrawnWild · 28/09/2023 14:36

Not to be rude OP, but you chose 3 kids and competitive sport.

Yes, im really happy with our life and our decisions but also really happy to hear other people perspectives and I haven't judged anyone on them.

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Toastiesforever · 28/09/2023 14:38

PollyPut · 28/09/2023 14:33

27 hours a week between 3 children is only 9 hours a week per child (on average). Plus travel time, I'm sure.

But surely they can fit sums and spellings in there? Perhaps at the weekend?

It's their homework, not yours. You don't need to do it so I can't see why the house to run is relevant here. Also I can't see how sums and spellings is an hour a night. Or why it can't be delayed to the weekend.

If you start now when it's low pressure hopefully there will get used to getting it done quickly without tense exchanges. Otherwise you're all in for a real shock when they get to secondary.

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27 hours min between 2 children not including weekends. 3rd DC too young and doesn't have homework yet.

Valid points though, however i am hoping that schoolwork combined with their competitive training, our parenting style and the extra optional school clubs ( that the kids choose to do within lunchtime & Breaks) has instilled in them hard work that will naturally carry forward for their secondary school.

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Spendonsend · 28/09/2023 14:38

I agree with reading and times tables practice.

Undecided about whether there is any evidence for spelling tests. Inclined to think pointless.

Think the rest is pointless.

MereDintofPandiculation · 28/09/2023 14:37

I have no objection to helping them learn their tables either as they're essential. Why are tables essential? I could make a case for 2x, 3x, 5x and 7x but why any others?

BrawnWild · 28/09/2023 14:36

Not to be rude OP, but you chose 3 kids and competitive sport.