To think having XL bullies around children is child neglect?

What a fucking joke. How people can still say to keep the fuckers alive I don't know. A bloody toddler gets attacked yet again and still with the oh but they're so soft and cuddly. People make me sick🤬

It will be dangerous short term, but IIRC shelters will have to euthanise rather than rehome once they're banned so if the problem persists they will eventually be rounded up and put to sleep. :)

Used as a weapon by the sounds of it. Hence why the ban can’t come soon enough.

Another attack on a baby yesterday, too (sorry for the fail link) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12588057/amp/XL-american-bully-dog-mauled-toddler-rushed-hospital-arrested-man.html

Another death reported: Shiney Row: Man dies after attack by American bully XL https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-67004053

Real life is so much different. Many people would say they would do XYZ if something awful happened... but then it does happen and they freeze.

@Devilsmommy that's awful. It's the first thing I think about when I see things like that, just put a knife in them. A human trumps a bloody dog and I'm saying that as a dog owner myself.

@bonbon2023 the pisstaking thing is that someone passed a folding knife over and it got put on the floor. I'd have been putting it right in the dogs neck too! Maybe with how small a knife they were worried about the dog turning and biting them🤔 or, and I can believe this after what I've read, they didn't want to kill a dog which is a fucking joke when said dog is killing a man

@Devilsmommy so sorry you had to witness that must be dreadful 😢

I saw the video and that was bad enough. Although I didn't understand why they didn't drive a knife through both dogs heads and that would of been the end of it. Poor man might of lived

Exactly, it’s very easy to point fingers at people from our armchairs watching the videos claiming we would have did X and Y were we in that situation.

The issue is those dogs shouldn’t be around to begin with and at the very least if people do insist on owning them they should be muzzled and on a leash.

Yanbu
You would have to be mad or extremely ignorant.

@VeterinaryCareAssistant 3 men were trying to help using the wheelie bins to block the dogs and the gate also but because the dogs had no collars on they had no way of holding them once they got them blocked from the guy on the floor. Obviously they were worried about getting bitten themselves which you can't blame them for. There were so many people watching it happen who also could have stepped in but nobody wants to get attacked themselves so it was a really shit situation and I applaud those 3 men who at least tried.

@Devilsmommy I saw the video (admittedly I don't think I saw the whole clip) but from what I saw nobody helped. Someone was pushing a wheelie bin back and forth and one man poked one of the other dogs with a bit of wood.

As everyone knows I saw this attack and one of the guys helping was whacking the dog in the head with the metal garden gate and the dog wasn't fazed at all. These dogs when they've flipped are completely too much for even a big adult male to stop so when you see them on a lead being held by a small woman who's having major trouble holding on, it just screams out that these animals should not be able to be owned by just anyone, though if I had my way they'd just all be put down and I could breathe easier knowing I can walk down the street not worrying that some huge powerful monster dog can possibly kill me

I've broken up a few dog fights but I'd not fancy my chances against an XL bully!

Most weigh more than me, so if I was brave enough, which if it had my dog I'd try to be, I doubt I'd be strong enough 🤦‍♀️

I suggest you take a look at the top videos on the redd1t sub r/BanPitBulls

I have seen dogs on there take three bullets from police while being wrestled by four grown men and they are still not letting go of their victim.

I do agree, a lot of people are deer in the headlights if something unforseen and horrible happens whereas other people go into fight mode, and you've obviously learned you are one of them. I'd certainly applaud you if you could stop an attack by one of those things but as I've said I do worry for anyone who is in that position, but fair play to you for being brave.

I too sincerely hope I'm never in such a position to find out if I had the strength.

I've broken up a few dog scraps in my time though - never anything more than handbags at dawn mind you - no blood drawn.

Usually just hauling one dog out is enough to stop the fight altogether.

It's amazing how many owners just freeze. I once had to stop serving a customer to go and haul one dog off another as neither owner was doing a thing about it.

I think you're overestimating what you'd accomplish in such an attack, given that they are quite capable of killing a grown man.
I seriously hope you are never in a position to find out though!

It's amazing what fear can do for people's strength - especially if it's your own dog being attacked.

The bigger issue is that most people go all "rabbit in the headlights" and do nothing even when it's two chihuahuas scrapping.

U just choke a dog out, no need to stab it or hurt it but use a lead or by the collar twist it until the dog is out.

I doubt that the average woman would be strong enough to choke through the solid muscle that is the neck of one of those things. Plus would you really want to get your face that close to its head?!

@WiddlinDiddlin I agree with you about cockerpoo owners not fully understanding what they're getting.

The difference is that cockerpoos are not killing people (nor are cockers, or poodles).

I live in Cardiff - this is the local authority dogs home
https://www.cardiffdogshome.co.uk/dog-owners/neutering/

There are other schemes elsewhere e.g.
Free neutering if you're on means tested benefits in 5 London boroughs
https://themayhew.org/how-we-help/our-vet-clinic/neutering/
£80/100 neutering in Plymouth
https://www.woodsidesanctuary.org.uk/neutering/

But even if neutering was £1000 - it's a cost that owners should have factored in before getting a dog.

If they cannot afford the cost of routine, predictable healthcare + insurance, they cannot afford a dog.

I can think of lots of reasons why people want a crossbreed - I've met people who have always had some sort of bullbreed mix and wouldn't consider anything else no matter how much more suitable, its simply what they've always had. Why people want a dog they can't control... I think they have no idea that they can't control it... until they can't!

Lots of people appear incapable of considering what makes up their crossbreed and how that may affect behaviour (and many assume a puppy is a blank slate so it doesn't matter where they get it from or parent temperament etc!)... the mix of choice makes no real odds there, the glut of Cockerpoo owners are really no different in that regard.

@TheCupboardUnderTheStairsAtTheMojoDojoCasaHouse Where on earth do you live?! No council scheme here and a bitch spay can cost anywhere from £350 to £700 depending on size/weight. Dogs Trust haven't given out free neuter vouchers for years, and most folk won't fall under a PDSA catchment area either. It is a postcode lottery as to whether spay/neuter is subsidised/cheap or not.

My dog was attacked by an XL Bully who was very luckily muzzled. It slipped the lead even though the owner was trying to control it. I have no doubt that without that muzzle, it would have killed my dog. The owner had taken steps to keep the dog under control but it was just too strong for him. I shudder to think what could have happened. I believe that, despite the owner being responsible, that dog will continue to be a danger.

Having watch the horrific video of the attack in Brum, you’ve honestly got to question why anyone would want a breed of dog they couldn’t handle. Most breeds of dogs would be shaking in a corner with its tail between its legs if it was being hit with a spade. Not those dogs though, they don’t seem to feel any pain!