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Dogs Everywhere

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SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 20:36

I don't live in the UK but am just back from a holiday in Cornwall. We were shocked at the amount of dogs allowed everywhere. They were in every restaurant, cafe, pub and hotel. Two or three people with dogs would all go into a small shop, blocking the aisles for everyone else. In Port Isaac on a lovely sunny Sunday afternoon the whole harbour and uphill area was disrupted by loud and continuous barking. Dogs were running around off leash on every beach. People were clogging the narrow pavements with two or three dogs on leads, wheeling dogs around in prams and buggies, stopping outside holiday cottages for ages chatting while their dogs barked, yapped and howled and ruined the peace for the people inside.

We were genuinely wondering if the next time we came back there would be dog and owner spaces in supermarket carparks and an expectation that you should stand up on public transport to let people with dogs sit down.

AIBU to think England has gone a bit mad when it comes to dogs?

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SusanandMidge · 18/09/2023 17:53

But the smell of dog when you're eating a meal is not really pleasant for a lot of people.

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MehtotheChristmasrunup · 18/09/2023 17:34

I hardly every see badly behaved dogs. Or dogs that smell of anything other than dog. I live in an area full of dogs too.
It worse seeing lifeless fat animals being dragged around actually.

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:33

@MatchyM one is a Coffee shop situated inside a hardware store that doesn't sell food but has let dogs enter for years.

The cafe sells food with outside and inside seating

CuriousPixie · 18/09/2023 17:32

Well behaved dogs I have few issues with but the owners who put on their ickle wickle voice as they pretend to be in control of their mutt as they speak to it in soothing gentle tones, makes me seriously want to vomit.
Go and get properly trained you utter twat (owner not dog)

Nevermind202020 · 18/09/2023 17:31

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:18

@Nevermind202020 I haven't seen lots of posters say dogs are same as children.
You're bowing out (after you've been super rude to a lot of posters)

Look through the posts, there are lots of people comparing dogs to children.
Also, I wasn't 'super rude' to lots of posters, I decided to no longer engage with one poster.

BubziOwl · 18/09/2023 17:30

MixedCouple · 18/09/2023 14:29

We have working dogs in the family. I.e they are on a farm doing a job. They are looked after and have acres of land to roam and be dogs. They do not go to public places and ruin everyone day and Crap everywhere. My family are used to dogs but they are working dogs and not treated as humans or as some idiots say "children" 😂

Could have written this myself!

MatchyM · 18/09/2023 17:28

Alstroemeria123 · 18/09/2023 17:18

I’m surprised at that as I am in the SE (a part of Sussex that seems to be dog central…)

One café and one coffee shop (what’s the different out of interest I wonder) in the SE 😂

From my home in London I can walk to at least five places within fifteen minutes that take dogs. And sooo many more in central London etc.

Womencanlift · 18/09/2023 17:24

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:17

@Alstroemeria123 not sure where you live but in the south east hardly anywhere is dog friendly apart from 1 cafe and 1 coffee shop.
If you don't like dogs then vote with your feet

SE here and that’s not my experience. Very limited to where you can go locally that’s not advertised as dog friendly. Different if it’s in the centre but I couldn’t pop out for lunch at a local cafe without a dog being there. I do check and I do vote with my feet.

A new cafe opened at the end of my street a few months ago and they were stopping people to give free samples to tempt them in. I declined as said I don’t like eating in dog friendly places. They were surprised at first but when I explained my thoughts they said they understood but that was their model. I wished them well and moved on.

Alstroemeria123 · 18/09/2023 17:18

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:17

@Alstroemeria123 not sure where you live but in the south east hardly anywhere is dog friendly apart from 1 cafe and 1 coffee shop.
If you don't like dogs then vote with your feet

I’m surprised at that as I am in the SE (a part of Sussex that seems to be dog central…)

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:18

@Nevermind202020 I haven't seen lots of posters say dogs are same as children.
You're bowing out (after you've been super rude to a lot of posters)

stillawip · 18/09/2023 17:17

We are currently in Cornwall with our two dogs. I sympathise with those who don’t like dogs, as there are more of them around, I agree. Part of the problem is that , with so many more dogs being bought in lockdown etc, it is getting increasingly difficult to find places for them to be looked after whilst you go on holiday, as they get so booked up - it is always my top stress when we go away. And then, if you do take them with you and are in a hotel or a holiday let, you are not usually allowed to leave the dogs unattended in the room/ property whilst you go out for a meal, so they have to come with you. Therefore we need places that allow dogs in. We always make sure that ours lie quietly under the table and don’t bother anyone else, and they certainly don’t bark or make a mess inside.

Carsarelife · 18/09/2023 17:17

@Alstroemeria123 not sure where you live but in the south east hardly anywhere is dog friendly apart from 1 cafe and 1 coffee shop.
If you don't like dogs then vote with your feet

Alstroemeria123 · 18/09/2023 17:11

I think if you don't want a dog where you're eating there are still many, many places that are not dog friendly to choose from. Why shouldn't both preferences be catered for.

But both preferences aren’t catered for in many places, that’s the problem. I actually have no issue with well-behaved dogs, but every time I’ve been into a cafe locally recently there has been at least one nuisance dog. There are literally no cafes etc in my local area that aren’t dog-friendly, so my choice is put up or not go. That seems as unfair as places where nowhere is dog-friendly.

Nevermind202020 · 18/09/2023 17:10

Bloom15 · 18/09/2023 17:05

I hate the children vs dogs thing. Young children can't be left at home. Dogs can

The 'dogs (like children)' type of comments are so ridiculous, yet they keep coming and coming and coming and coming and coming....

I am going to bow out of this now.
@SusanandMidge YANBU (not sure the same can be said for a few other posters though, sad as it is).

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:09

I am allowed to disagree, I believe? 🙄

You crack on champ👍🏻

Nevermind202020 · 18/09/2023 17:08

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:05

My bad, I re-entered that unusual universe you are in, it was an error).--

rude tbh

I am allowed to disagree, I believe? 🙄

Bloom15 · 18/09/2023 17:05

Trevorton · 17/09/2023 20:52

Are you american? Just wondering because of the use of ‘leash’. It’s a ‘lead’ in uk. And yes, dogs (like children) are welcome in most places. I think if you swap the word dogs for children the setup and irritation is similar for a lot of us.

I hate the children vs dogs thing. Young children can't be left at home. Dogs can

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:05

My bad, I re-entered that unusual universe you are in, it was an error).--

rude tbh

Lavender14 · 18/09/2023 17:05

I bring my dog on holiday with me and on days out because we do a lot of walking holidays and it's unfair of me as an owner to leave him locked in all day while I'm doing something he would also enjoy.

Being able to go into a coffee shop or cafe with him means we don't need to eat in our car the entire time which is far nicer, contributes to the economy and small businesses and makes our holiday much more social and enjoyable. It also means we can actually stay out for the day or overnight without having to pay additional costs to kennel him which he finds stressful.

Our dog is super well behaved. Sits beside me when told and if we're eating in a dog friendly place he will lie under the table quietly until we're finished. People have frequently said they didn't even know he was there until we were leaving.

Somewhere being dog friendly would make me more likely to support that business even if i didn't have my dog with me. I think if you don't want a dog where you're eating there are still many, many places that are not dog friendly to choose from. Why shouldn't both preferences be catered for. I ring ahead to check why not do the same op.

Nevermind202020 · 18/09/2023 17:04

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:00

@Nevermind202020

I don't buy into = I don't agree with the idea that

( you're allowed not to agree I believe )

I know what 'I don't buy into means'.
(My bad, I re-entered that unusual universe you are in, it was an error).

Bloom15 · 18/09/2023 17:01

YANBU

I live in the UK and am sick of seeing dogs everywhere- pubs, cafes and shops

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:00

You are saying 'if dogs are welcome, they are welcome' - I am pointing out that they are not welcome to do as they like, as some owners seem to think.

I realise that. 👍🏻

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 17:00

@Nevermind202020

I don't buy into = I don't agree with the idea that

( you're allowed not to agree I believe )

Nevermind202020 · 18/09/2023 17:00

sunglassesonthetable · 18/09/2023 16:58

An invite does not mean a free reign!

I know that 👍🏻

You are saying 'if dogs are welcome, they are welcome' - I am pointing out that they are not welcome to do as they like, as some owners seem to think.

Anewnamea · 18/09/2023 16:59

Reviews are there for everyone. Make your views known.

yep, I certainly will.