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Dogs Everywhere

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SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 20:36

I don't live in the UK but am just back from a holiday in Cornwall. We were shocked at the amount of dogs allowed everywhere. They were in every restaurant, cafe, pub and hotel. Two or three people with dogs would all go into a small shop, blocking the aisles for everyone else. In Port Isaac on a lovely sunny Sunday afternoon the whole harbour and uphill area was disrupted by loud and continuous barking. Dogs were running around off leash on every beach. People were clogging the narrow pavements with two or three dogs on leads, wheeling dogs around in prams and buggies, stopping outside holiday cottages for ages chatting while their dogs barked, yapped and howled and ruined the peace for the people inside.

We were genuinely wondering if the next time we came back there would be dog and owner spaces in supermarket carparks and an expectation that you should stand up on public transport to let people with dogs sit down.

AIBU to think England has gone a bit mad when it comes to dogs?

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kitsuneghost · 17/09/2023 21:07

thenightsky · 17/09/2023 20:37

The British are animal lovers. Get over it.

Animal lovers don't own pets.

EmmaAmeliasMum · 17/09/2023 21:07

Agree, it's awful. My children stepped in 3 separate piles of dog poo when we were on holiday in Cornwall over the summer. That doesn't account for all of the piles we managed to dodge. It's just hideous and unfortunately no better in our home town.

It's a bug bear of ours and I don't know what the answer is!

SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 21:07

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:05

You are exemplifying the issue with some dog owners.

I agree. The self entitlement of some dog owners is unbelievable.

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Wolvesart · 17/09/2023 21:06

BitOutOfPractice · 17/09/2023 20:55

YANBU. I’m tired of it too. But apparently they makes me a dog hating psychopath lowlife on mn. 🤷‍♀️

I have a DC wii hi I is nervous around dogs. On the coastal path, in a wooded area, a huge dog appeared way ahead of owners. DC yelped a bit (really not that loud) and they told us off. The dog wasn’t totally out of control but neither was it a dog to be left unattended. Honestly, why can’t people understand that not all of us want muddy paw marks on our trs and some are afraid of that kinda stuff too.

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:06

Mojoj · 17/09/2023 21:05

Boring! Dogs are way more interesting than most people.

Each to their own, but I wholeheartedly disagree.

SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 21:06

Mojoj · 17/09/2023 21:05

Boring! Dogs are way more interesting than most people.

Except they're not

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thatsabigtree · 17/09/2023 21:06

@SusanandMidge "Go where? Every restaurant and shop in Cornwall is now being put under pressure to let dogs in."

Well somewhere other than Cornwall then! It's a very well known place for people to take dogs because it's dog friendly!

StarDolphins · 17/09/2023 21:05

Plenty of places no dogs allowed, go in those.

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:05

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/09/2023 21:04

That was a different part of my post.

Be a dear, admit you're wrong and I'l let you pet my lovely fluffy snot free dogs. Virtually, of course.

You are exemplifying the issue with some dog owners.

Mojoj · 17/09/2023 21:05

Boring! Dogs are way more interesting than most people.

DirtyDuchess · 17/09/2023 21:05

I like dogs, I dislike this explosion of dogs and their entitled owners (including my parents). They're so affronted when a restaurant/cafe says no dogs allowed.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/09/2023 21:04

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:01

You cannot say you agree with them not being comparable and then say dogs are better, because that in itself is a comparison.

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That was a different part of my post.

Be a dear, admit you're wrong and I'l let you pet my lovely fluffy snot free dogs. Virtually, of course.

MiniTheMinx · 17/09/2023 21:04

I'm going to Cornwall next week and taking the dog. He loved it last year. But my dog doesn't jump at people or bark. He most definitely doesn't yap. Cornwall seems very dog friendly. I wouldn't though expect to walk my dog around St Ives or on its beaches in high season.

kitsuneghost · 17/09/2023 21:04

Cornwall is particularly bad but yes dogs are becoming a bit of a menace throughout the UK. There was even an advert earlier from RSPCA saying how they were struggling because people bought pups in lockdown and now can't cope.

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:04

thatsabigtree · 17/09/2023 21:01

I agree.
I'm sure this thread gets done literally every week.

I do think it's comparable to children being annoying to some people. That doesn't mean that dogs and children are similar, but they are two things that are now more commonly welcomed in places that used to be off limits.
I'd rather sit on a table next to a dog that's just lying on the floor than a child who makes loads of noise and running around, but each to their own. Just go somewhere else if you don't like it.

Children and dogs are not comparable, and never will be (no matter how many times people try to compare them). Also it's getting harder and harder to 'go somewhere else' because so many places accept dogs now (partly due to pressure from dog owners in some cases).

SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 21:02

thatsabigtree · 17/09/2023 21:01

I agree.
I'm sure this thread gets done literally every week.

I do think it's comparable to children being annoying to some people. That doesn't mean that dogs and children are similar, but they are two things that are now more commonly welcomed in places that used to be off limits.
I'd rather sit on a table next to a dog that's just lying on the floor than a child who makes loads of noise and running around, but each to their own. Just go somewhere else if you don't like it.

Go where? Every restaurant and shop in Cornwall is now being put under pressure to let dogs in.

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Wolvesart · 17/09/2023 21:02

I’m ok with them if they behave. On coastal paths owners can be very stupid. What would they do if their exhuberant teenager or puppy raced off down a steep slope? There are so many places where they should be on leads. Our DS is quite nervous around dogs and when they are way ahead of their owners on a path it’s disconcerting.

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:01

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/09/2023 20:59

Absolutely. Could not agree with you more. Glad we do.

Dogs are so much better,

Woof!

You cannot say you agree with them not being comparable and then say dogs are better, because that in itself is a comparison.

thatsabigtree · 17/09/2023 21:01

Dickheadseverywhere · 17/09/2023 20:45

🥱

I agree.
I'm sure this thread gets done literally every week.

I do think it's comparable to children being annoying to some people. That doesn't mean that dogs and children are similar, but they are two things that are now more commonly welcomed in places that used to be off limits.
I'd rather sit on a table next to a dog that's just lying on the floor than a child who makes loads of noise and running around, but each to their own. Just go somewhere else if you don't like it.

Marsyas · 17/09/2023 21:01

I’m not a fan of dogs. In fact, if I woke up tomorrow and all dogs were gone from the world and had never existed, it wouldn’t bother me one bit.
However, I have to say I haven’t particularly noticed the situation you describe, OP. I was also on holiday in Cornwall a few months ago and didn’t think there were more dogs than usual, or that they were more annoying than usual. I went to pubs where there were dogs but I wasn’t annoyed by them and it certainly didn’t “reek of dogs”.
I actually think there was more dog poo around when I was a child, and dogs were worse in terms of jumping up at you etc - in fact people used to let their dogs out by themselves to wander around.

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 21:00

LimeCheesecake · 17/09/2023 20:58

Oh and a dog on holiday is out of routine - might not have its own bed, unsettled in a different location, spending days doing v stimulating things like beach walks and going along high streets that are unfamiliar. It’s harder for dogs to be well behaved under those circumstances.

In that case should the owners consider whether taking the dog on holiday with them is actually the good idea they think it is? Other people shouldn't have to put up with badly behaved dogs just because someone cannot bear to leave them dog somewhere it might actually be happier for a short time!

Bibbitybobbitty · 17/09/2023 21:00

YANBU recently a shopping centre here trialled having dogs allowed in the mall, shops & restaurants, much to the dismay of most customers, shop/restaurant owners& cleaning staff - after a few weeks accidents staff had to clean up it thankfully it didn't last long, came to a swift halt when 1 particularly lovely chap refused to clean up his dog poo in a restaurant!
I like dogs but don't feel the need to have them everywhere.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/09/2023 20:59

Nevermind202020 · 17/09/2023 20:59

Again, the two are not comparable.

Absolutely. Could not agree with you more. Glad we do.

Dogs are so much better,

Woof!

Screamingabdabz · 17/09/2023 20:59

I was shocked the last time I went to Cornwall too op. Dogs everywhere. It put me off and ruined Cornwall for me.

Anybody comparing dogs to children should be fucking ashamed of themselves and tells you everything you need to know about the arrogance and cuntish nature of many dog owners.