Dogs Everywhere

@Nevermind202020 "Again, why are we comparing children and dogs?
As for screaming kids, I don't enjoy it much either, but it is how some younger children show emotion and most grow out of it."

Because to a lot of people, including people with children, others people's children are really annoying! And it's irrelevant if they grow out of it when at the moment in question their behaviour is disruptive to others. People are just identifying that different things annoy different people. Some people find young children more annoying than dogs. I definitely do!

Who said ‘all day’? With no interaction?! You made that all up as you have no defence! They take their dogs for appropriate walks. And train them to feel safe home alone. They realise that their dogs don’t need to go to bingo or the disco.

Oh I totally missed that!

I was in a kid friendly, dog friendly pub at lunchtime once. My two dc were older primary age. They were sitting quietly at the table...not running round or screeching...just talking at a normal volume with me. My friend bought her huge dog along. At the next table were a horrible couple...the type who sit at lunch together and don't say a single word to each other for hours. They spent the entire time scowling at my sitting quietly children. Meanwhile, people couldn't stop gushing over my friends dog and how wonderful he apparently is.

My point is people who live here can’t just “go elsewhere”.

And I shouldn’t need to avoid dogs, they should be kept under control in public.

I only take my dog to places she is welcome. She is well behaved, does not bark (she barks about twice a year!), does not approach other people etc. But yet I am cuntish and entitled?

‘Again, why are we comparing children and dogs?’

Because it’s the only defence shit dog-owners have. If kids are criticised somewhere, I will agree that badly behaved children and selfish parents can make life difficult for others. I don’t start saying ‘but dogs are worse!’

This kind of owner has no defence, is happy for their dog to cause havoc and can only defend it by saying that children are worse. They lose the argument immediately when they do that.

@MatchyM yeah good owners that leave their dogs home alone all day with no interaction and bored as hell. Great owners they sound

Your first post says ‘We were shocked at the amount of dogs allowed everywhere.’ but later you say ‘shocked their dogs aren’t welcome everywhere’ - are dogs allowed everywhere or aren’t they?

A quick google shows Cornwall is one of the most dog friendly places to visit in the UK. If I didn’t like dogs I’d probably have chosen elsewhere for a break.

I was being sarcastic. I was trying to keep it relevant to the original post.

Many people take their dogs on holiday just research areas more next time before you book.
Cornwall is dog friendly but especially from September onwards as many of the beaches allow dogs again (not allowed between July and end of Aug) so you probably saw loads more because people book these weeks just after the summer holidays with their dogs as they are allowed back on the beach!

I live in a touristy area about 1/4 of places allow dogs the rest don't, it really is area dependent. Only 3 shops allow dogs in the wine shop a pet shop and a dog specialist!

Not my problem. I don’t have badly trained dogs and I avoid them so you might try do the same

I fucking hate kids screaming unnecessarily but that is a different thread. This is about cuntish entitled dog owners and them taking over places we all should be allowed to enjoy but can’t.

If you want to start a thread about cuntish parents who allow their kids to scream while playing I’d agree with you but this is about dogs. Different species. Different debate.

I think the noise of other families on the beach would be expected, but if it's a beach which doesn't allow dogs (either at all or at that time point) then the noise of dogs shouldn't even be a consideration as they shouldn't be there!

And for those of us who are English, live in England and don’t want badly trained dogs everywhere…?

I must admit I find it weird that dogs are allowed in establishments where food is served. I find it very unhygienic and as such I avoid dog friendly pubs and cafes.

In Cornwall we stuck to the beaches where dogs are banned. We stumbled upon a dog friendly beach accidentally this year, but had already unpacked everything before we realised. The barking was very noticeable, and irritating. Some family near us let their dog come over and sniff all around our stuff. When I didn’t return the woman’s gormless grin, she did have the decency to call the dog back (not that it did it straight away because Heaven forbid people actually train their dogs in effective recall).

Another family near us had their dog on a lead and it kept barking and they kept shushing it. The dog seemed bored and unhappy, and the family seemed irritated by its barking. It didn’t look like any of them were having a nice time, and I couldn’t help wonder why they had brought the dog in the first place.

Fingers crossed.

The thing is, dogs and people have coexisted for ages. I don’t like dogs but owners have usually been good and respectful. It’s only in the last few years that owners have been shit and entitled and lazy: examples on this thread.

There are good owners out there who train their dogs to stay home, don’t drag them round cafes and restaurants. But they are increasingly in the minority.

I didn't post the comment, but might it be the thought of dogs potentially being chosen over humans being the issue?

PP said dog friendly beaches are noisy with dogs barking. But beaches are noisy in general. A beach in the day in the summer is not where you would go for peace and quiet.

No because seeing desperate people cling to planes and small children being crushed outside the airport trying to escape was extremely upsetting and quite honestly I couldn't have given a flying fuck if a dog had to stay in Afghanistan. And the fate for the women and girls was much much worse than the fate of the dogs.

Nope, by the amount of people breeding illegally I think there will be more.

England is very nice to animals, it’s something to be happy about. If you don’t like it go on holiday elsewhere

It always amazes me how many people on MN seem to really dislike children.