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Dogs Everywhere

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SusanandMidge · 17/09/2023 20:36

I don't live in the UK but am just back from a holiday in Cornwall. We were shocked at the amount of dogs allowed everywhere. They were in every restaurant, cafe, pub and hotel. Two or three people with dogs would all go into a small shop, blocking the aisles for everyone else. In Port Isaac on a lovely sunny Sunday afternoon the whole harbour and uphill area was disrupted by loud and continuous barking. Dogs were running around off leash on every beach. People were clogging the narrow pavements with two or three dogs on leads, wheeling dogs around in prams and buggies, stopping outside holiday cottages for ages chatting while their dogs barked, yapped and howled and ruined the peace for the people inside.

We were genuinely wondering if the next time we came back there would be dog and owner spaces in supermarket carparks and an expectation that you should stand up on public transport to let people with dogs sit down.

AIBU to think England has gone a bit mad when it comes to dogs?

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sunglassesonthetable · 21/09/2023 08:09

I’ve always wanted to stay in the Bodmin Jail Hotel. But if there’s dogs in the breakfast room, I’ll give it a miss.

Good idea to do the research if you're dog avoidant.

BitOutOfPractice · 21/09/2023 08:06

bengalcat · 17/09/2023 21:18

We stayed at the Bodmin Jail Hotel last year - there was an option for a sausage for your dog at breakfast . Served on a plate . DDog was delighted . Oddly enough she wasn’t keen on Watergate Bays doggy ice cream - it didn’t taste too bad but less creamy than ‘ human ‘ ice cream .
But yes when sharing public places be mindful of others , appreciate the impact of your dog on others and pick your shit up .

I’ve always wanted to stay in the Bodmin Jail Hotel. But if there’s dogs in the breakfast room, I’ll give it a miss.

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 21/09/2023 08:06

WhateverMate · 17/09/2023 20:48

Dunno, I still prefer them to most kids including my own

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Sweet Jesus Christ.

Not even made it off of the first page before someone compared them to kids 🙄🥱

sunglassesonthetable · 21/09/2023 08:03

And tourism is not Cornwall's main industry. Agriculture is a bigger contributer.

Dear me.

Womencanlift · 21/09/2023 07:55

“he’s friendly, he just likes to say hello to everyone”

Ah the slogan of the entitled dog owner.

My response to that is always “well I am not so get your mutt away from me”. It tends to work and I really don’t care if they think I am rude as the feeling is mutual

Dentistlakes · 21/09/2023 06:27

Yes, they are everywhere! I like dogs, but they really don’t belong in shops and restaurants. When we had a dog someone waited outside shops and when we ate it was fish and chips or we sat outside in the pub garden. We certainly didn’t demand to take them inside. There were dogs in John Lewis the other day. It’s completely over the top.

Tamuchly · 21/09/2023 06:21

I’m a dog lover but the dog population has exploded in the last few years and now I’d avoid somewhere ‘dog friendly’ because some owners don’t supervise their dogs properly!
I have days when I can be a bit unsteady on my feet, some days I look like I’m ambling along when actually I’m walking as fast as I can. Due to this I have been jumped on by numerous uncontrolled, off-lead dogs mostly accompanied by their owner yelling from across the park “he’s friendly, he just likes to say hello to everyone”. Really? Most dogs don’t need to knock me over to do that but apparently yours is allowed because he’s curly and cute. So no, I don’t want to sit in a coffee shop or a restaurant with the curly crew while we discover what else their dog hasn’t been taught (along with reliable recall)!

user1477391263 · 21/09/2023 06:09

And tourism is not Cornwall's main industry. Agriculture is a bigger contributer.

user1477391263 · 21/09/2023 06:08

Mothership4two · 21/09/2023 05:11

Well people want to take their dogs on holiday.

Cornwall's main industry is tourism so doubt they would be pleased if people didn't take up self catering holidays

My post literally said "Hotels." If Cornwall got similar numbers of tourists but more of them stayed in hotels, they'd still get plenty of tourist money, with fewer distorting effects on local property markets.

WiddlinDiddlin · 21/09/2023 05:27

Don't go on holiday to probably the most famously dog friendly tourist destination in the UK... or go out of season perhaps.

Places that depend on the tourist trade will do whatever they need to do to make their money in season, its irritating as it may be, they have to survive!

Mothership4two · 21/09/2023 05:11

Well people want to take their dogs on holiday.

Cornwall's main industry is tourism so doubt they would be pleased if people didn't take up self catering holidays

Sceptre86 · 21/09/2023 04:45

Out on the pavements I have no issue with. It's inside shops and cafes that annoy me, these are spaces to be enjoyed by humans. Just seems more people are incapable of leaving their animals at home or outside a shop anymore. I wouldn't frequent a dog friendly cafe or anywhere that sells food.

user1477391263 · 21/09/2023 04:37

As for “holiday cottages won’t let dogs be left in the house” - the solution, for those who simply refuse to leave their bloody dogs at home in kennels, is to have some dog-friendly hotels that have facilities where dogs can be left for a few hours under the hotel’s supervision. In Japan, we have some hotels that are like that. They have a doggy daycare/kennelling facility onsite. Given the housing crisis in Cornwall, we should all be moving away from the “Holiday cottage” style of tourism anyway.

user1477391263 · 21/09/2023 04:21

Totally agree, OP. And they stink.

Mothership4two · 21/09/2023 02:22

Having visited Devon and Cornwall a few times this year, I have noticed more dogs around out of the holiday season before or after term time. Not that we were particularly bothered. Lots of loud families on beaches too. Up until now we too have been tied to school holidays only so that's why I noticed. There certainly are many dog free cafes/restaurants in both counties and around here in Hampshire UK. I have never been to a pub that smelled of dogs. Dog friendly UK eateries usually have well behaved dogs in them IME

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/09/2023 19:55

Pumpkinpie1 · 20/09/2023 08:46

Dogs are animals . They can be cuddly and affectionate but they are still animals . Treating them better than you’d treat another person or family member is weird

Why shouldn’t I treat my dogs better than I would treat a random person or even a distant relative I don’t even like?

Ylvamoon · 20/09/2023 17:38

Pumpkinpie1 · 20/09/2023 08:46

Dogs are animals . They can be cuddly and affectionate but they are still animals . Treating them better than you’d treat another person or family member is weird

I would always treat my dogs better than People as in a random stranger... I mean I mostly ignore them.

I don't ignore my dogs, I love treating them, give them cuddles and have fun with them!
The same applies to my family... DC, DH and myself often have fun with the dogs.
So everyone gets lots of fuss and attention!

Even my friends come to my house and give the dogs attention. I sometimes think some only come because of the dogs... I mean a trip to the park and free parking? It's attractive if it's £4.- a pop. (We have a yearly subscription that works out cheaper. )

But given random strangers as in people any type of attention & affetion? Nah - that would be wired!

Ohpleeeease · 20/09/2023 14:12

We’ve been asked before now by friends if they can stay over, with their dog, en route to their holiday destination. Luckily we were away ourselves but it would have been a hard no from me otherwise. I can’t imagine even asking, I would never in a million years have taken my dog to anyone else’s house.

vivainsomnia · 20/09/2023 11:44

Do you think it's never happened before?
No comment on these specific situations but you were talking in general terms. No, it's not the norm to prioritise your dog over your kids (and both my kids AND dog get told off if they act in appropriately and that might be at different times!).

CuriousPixie · 20/09/2023 11:31

sunglassesonthetable · 20/09/2023 09:05

Oh I’ve witnessed this. It does happen. Two people I know will fawn and mollycoddle their dogs in that cooochy, wooochy, who’s my best boy voice, and then will speak to their kids in an awful way. It’s cringe and frankly horrible to witness. If I can pick up on the vibes, then the poor kids certainly can and know exactly where they are in the pecking order.

Agree seen this .

Do you think it's never happened before?

It probably has happened before but just not so visible coz folk never brought their dogs everywhere, all the time like they do now

ruby1957 · 20/09/2023 10:42

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2023 20:48

People used to understand that their dogs belonged in their home and nobody else’s. They didn’t love their pets any less, but they had a clearer idea of where they were welcome.

This was exactly the case back when I was growing up,
We always had dogs but they were not allowed on furniture and certainly never taken everywhere with us such as shopping, eating out, events, holidays.
The dog stayed home.
I have a dog - I love my own dog but am not so keen on sharing spaces with other people's pets who I do not know. My dog mostly stays home now.

sunglassesonthetable · 20/09/2023 09:05

Oh I’ve witnessed this. It does happen. Two people I know will fawn and mollycoddle their dogs in that cooochy, wooochy, who’s my best boy voice, and then will speak to their kids in an awful way. It’s cringe and frankly horrible to witness. If I can pick up on the vibes, then the poor kids certainly can and know exactly where they are in the pecking order.

Agree seen this .

Do you think it's never happened before?

CuriousPixie · 20/09/2023 08:56

vivainsomnia · 20/09/2023 08:52

Treating them better than you’d treat another person or family member is weird
Who said they are treated better! It's very possible to make everyone happy!

Oh I’ve witnessed this. It does happen. Two people I know will fawn and mollycoddle their dogs in that cooochy, wooochy, who’s my best boy voice, and then will speak to their kids in an awful way. It’s cringe and frankly horrible to witness. If I can pick up on the vibes, then the poor kids certainly can and know exactly where they are in the pecking order.

vivainsomnia · 20/09/2023 08:52

Treating them better than you’d treat another person or family member is weird
Who said they are treated better! It's very possible to make everyone happy!

Pumpkinpie1 · 20/09/2023 08:47

I’d put my kids family and friends welfare before an animal any day