Dogs Everywhere

Here's another view - another reason for someone to start a thread about entitled dog owners.

Dogs aren't allowed on our local beaches. There are patrols and heavy fines.

But I was in a new restaurant yesterday and was appalled to see a dog do it's business inside and the owners saw and just walked off. Absolutely disgusting. The restaurant owner came over and apologised. He said they were going to change their policy and dogs would be banned. Don't blame him tbh.

To be fair, most husbands aren't great conversationalists either.

Another anti dog thread. There should be a special board for the dog/cat haters.

Dogs are better company to some people, but if you want something more than a potential hot water bottle, potential cuddles, and a one way conversation then they are not really that great tbh. Don't get me wrong, I've loved dogs I owned in the past but none of them were great conversationalists!

I wouldn't take her in a restaurant. At most, a cafe if seating is very spaced out, I prefer outside seating and would choose that everytime! To the other poster quoting me. I watch for others very carefully, precisely because I don't want to be perceived badly. She is a big dog, and I accept not everyone wants her near them.
She is trained and will continue training all her life but still relatively young and can be bouncy, so I assess every situation/ location. I want us to be good ambassadors for her breed combo of dog.

YANBU. Interestingly a friend of mine is holidaying there right now with her family and they have their parents very beautiful but large and energetic dog with them. From what I understand they’re taking it everywhere when they go out .

The thing is Cornwall is known well known as a dog friendly holiday destination unfortunately, so they are going to be everywhere. It has actually put me off visiting tbh but I might still one day.

I’ve said before in another thread every restaurant or pub should display clearly if they are dog friendly or not with some kind of symbol on their website/window, and there needs to be a range of dog free and dog friendly places for people to choose from in the UK because it’s all going one way now. I don’t know any coffee shop in my whole town that is dog free. I seen a dog in the library too recently. I was walking downs. Steep narrow park and two dog walkers who had congregated on the corner with their 3 dogs between them didn’t bother to move so i had to cross over or step out onto the road to get past them. I’ll get told I didn’t have to but had I squeezed past and if it’d been a nervous dog that had bitten me no doubt I’d have been blamed for coming to close round a corner and startling a dog.

I can’t drive and it really annoys me that I’ll be on a train and bus and a dog owner can just come sit next to me and I have no idea of the dogs temperament and they have no idea if I’m allergic or not . It’s an enclosed space that I can’t easily escape from.

Probably from having to be around them. Dogs are better company and tend to talk about themselves less.

This is so disgusting. Yet the shit dog-owners deny this stuff happens.

Are you indirectly suggesting we start a 'dogs are better than cats' (or vice versa) thread, and get some popcorn?
(I am not being serious, but that might be entertaining).

On Friday I was in John Lewis shopping.
I witnessed a 'yorkie' dog on a lead poop in the aisle. I said 'Oh excuse me you dog has just done the toilet'
She gave me the finger!
On Sunday outside a local coffee shop a woman had her dog on the chair. It peed.
She didn't attempt to wipe it.

I have always had dogs.

I don’t know, some people on here get even more upset if you say you don’t like cats.

what you don’t seem to understand is that it’s not as simple as hating all animals.

I abhor cruelty to animals. I recognise that dogs bring comfort to many and of course there are incredible working and service dogs.

What people dislike is the increase in dogs being allowed in restaurants, standing with their paws up at a cafe counter, owners letting their dogs jump up at strangers, walk up and down tube carriages off-lead, ruin picnics and nuzzle through their property. All stuff which has happened to me in the last year.

Can you not see there is a difference?

Your second statement is simply untrue - people can 'hate' animals for a whole host of reasons. If you were choosing any other one feature, other than them having committed murder or something equally bad, then I'd call you out for your assuming superiority and judgemental attitude.

I haven't done yet, worth a punt, though. Im telling you something always comes out in the wash at a later date about people who hate animals.

I would never date someone who didn't like animals, and i would be cautious about people i do meet who dont eg a new mum at the school, i would think oh, worth remembering ha

My mum was scared of big dogs because she was bitten as a child which is completely understable, but she didnt hate them, she ended up with a little old lady dog as company in her later years.

You do sound like a responsible owner, two things though - you might not be aware of the number of people who cross the road to avoid your dog. I often do this, but try to do it in a subtle way (mostly) because it's not that the dog/owner is always doing something wrong and more that I just don't want to risk the dog potentially sniffing me/jumping at me etc (if it's an unknown dog/owner I have no idea how they might behave). Also, just because you don't perceive this to be happening with your dog it doesn't mean it isn't happening. As for only hearing negative things on MN, that's not been my experience at all, and I know many people who are frustrated by the selfish dog owners (not all dog owners) in our community. I have just seen one this morning letting her dog use part of the school grounds to do a poo - granted she picked it up, but she should not be encouraging it to poo there to start with because picking up often still leaves small traces and school pupils routinely sit there at lunchtime/break! This lady looks after her dogs much better than many people, from what I have seen, but in the past a grassy area at a school would not have been seen as an acceptable toileting location!

We holiday in this country, so we take our dog with us.
Far more people will say hello and comment 'what a beautiful dog' than ever cross the road to avoid. It's only on MN that I read about all the posters who detest dogs.

She is happy being with us and if anything behaves better for it.
We rarely get negative responses to her. If someone is clearly uncomfortable, I would remove her. It's not a problem. We visit lots of dog friendly places, on one occasion someone ran across the road to say hello because they had seen us the previous day at another place and wanted to pet her again. Our most recent holiday, a little lad asked to say hello, all his siblings/ cousins appeared to pet her too. The mother took pictures and thanked me for letting the children pet her, saying they don't have dogs in their homes culturally but the children love dogs so they were getting their 'fix'.
If children ask to pet her, I always thank them for asking, too, as respect and responsibility go both ways.

So how do you do your checks when you have to trust someone? Do you email the school to check on teachers? Call the GP to review their stance on animals before booking an appointment?

I do take this as a bit of a red flag in life generally. Always have, always will. Not just dogs. All animals.

It’s pretty clear even from this thread that there is a huge difference between the good and the bad owners. Unfortunately for the former, it’s the shit entitled group that screech most loudly these days.

Some dog-related problems are the owner's fault - not picking up after them, letting them off their leads, allowing them to cause a nuisance barking incessantly or at inappropriate times in built up areas, not training them properly etc.

Others are a problem just because of the sheer unprecedented numbers of dogs there are now in England and the current fashion of bringing them everywhere with you (although you could also say the latter is an owner problem too). Some of it, the dangerous dogs aspect, is at least partly the fault of government not enforcing any of the laws there are, let alone passing better ones.

Most people on the thread are acknowledging there are good and bad dog owners.

Because it apparently makes you a vile and untrustworthy person apparently 🙄

Funny how this vitriol about not liking something is only for dogs and not other animals