To expect parents to try to keep children quiet on campsites early in the morning?

Sounds like hell.

They’re camping and it’s 6.45 in the morning. You’re being unreasonable. Why should lazy parenting win out? I’m sure she isn’t expecting peace and tranquility but just not inconsiderate arseholes

It isn’t. Neither is acceptable. Most campsites and campers are very reasonable.

Last time I went camping was a karate training camp. It's a whole-family deal, with one large area of a campsite just for us, parents come along and (mostly) pitch in with food prep etc and it's generally a good event. I'm one of the instructors.

Except this time some parents thought that 6.30 was a totally acceptable time to let their kids play football, with excited shouting (as kids are wont to do) while they sat around and had loud chats.

So I gave the kids a load of press ups/leg raises/ sitting in sumo stance etc to do. Then followed up with a nice jog around our campsite area. The parents were then pressganged into doing the washing up after breakfast.

I told them cheerily that if they were all quiet as mice until 7 am the next day they wouldn't have to do similar. Parents were reminded that loud noise at 6.30 am is unacceptable and jokingly told that if they couldn't keep their kids quiet they would also have to do press ups/nice jog.

The next morning was blissfully quiet 😁

Yawn……

I literally have never been to a restaurant where kids are jumping on tables or seen kids scribbling on exhibits in a museum.

Ridiculous, goady post.

Well mumsnet never fails to amuse me.

Well said, @DarkwingDuk

YANBU

I’m quite shocked at these people saying it’s “expected” - but now we know who is ruining a nice time for everyone else. It’s unbearably entitled to think your children should do as they please at all times and you shouldn’t attempt to contain them.

Personally I don’t allow screaming at any point, it is unnecessary unless they’re injured or dying.
Loud playing is for when a majority of people are up, not before. We have books, toys and us as parents to entertain until then.

Honestly sick to death of lazy parents and their unruly children ruining what could be nice experiences for those around them. It’s far too common these days.

So it depends, I actively pick to camp when there aren’t families or kids about really, I also pick campsites that have noise rules etc. so if it were a campsite I go to it’s usually no Jose before 7-8am etc. so I would be annoyed. But if I went to an event for kids and the campsite had no rules then that’s my own fault and I need to deal with it.

We are fairly new campers I will admit. We have not had this experience at all though, thankfully!!

Mostly, children seem to run about fairly free in the woods until they drop. Or until the 10pm quiet time, when pretty much everyone goes to bed. I have never been woken before 7.30 and then it was my own dc!

Personally I don't think this is ok.

For us if we go camping we expect noise till around 10pm then relative quiet - chatting round tents type level ok. Then again only relative quiet chatting around tents until 8am ish. We have two young children and have camped a lot and fit into this campsite pattern, which seems pretty typical in the campsites we have been to in the UK and Europe.

Parents should be trying to get their kids to keep the noise down in the morning, just like adults should be keeping the noise down in the evenings. Makes me laugh how many parents feel guilty about letting their kids have too much holiday screen time? We'll here's a thought 6-9 am, screen, headphones. Kids are happy, other campers are happy, parents are happy because they got more sleep/downtime, parents can justify it as 'the kids had to be quiet and everything else was closed'. All is good. Or the parents can get up and take their little darlings for a walk!

It’s not unreasonable an ask (and my son gets up before 6am).

also hate loud adults late at night.

If they wont do as you want, then take them away from the area they are causing annoyance.

As for your statement here:
But camping on holiday…. i couldn’t really find fault with excited kids getting up and having fun. It’s holiday!!

It's everyones holiday. Be a parent and take responsibility for their behaviour.

By parenting properly. By not giving in with a tablet or tv for an easy life.

Bit like dog training do it properly and consistently and you get well rounded well behaved children. Go for an easy life and well all bets are off and it’s unpredictable.

We camp regularly and I can safely say most days my children are still sleeping at 8-9am. Rarely would they be up at 7am let alone before. Only during a heatwave where they up before 8am and even then it wasn’t to run and scream and shout it was because we defended into forest.

There is no need at all for happy children to be screaming/shrieking and shouting ever really let alone before 8am.

I feel so sorry for some teachers, no wonder we have a huge recruitment problem.

I was a teenage single parent living on a council estate with a child who was later found out to be autistic and have ADHD.

So stereotypically, if anyone was going to have an uncontrollable child it would have been me.

But there is absolutely no way I would allow my child to be screaming and shouting at that early in the morning.

The amount of unruly kids there are because people can’t be bothered to parent is crazy and there’s absolutely no need for it.

What’s annoying is it’s actually the kids that will suffer the most because they’ll end up getting in trouble at school and struggling to get a job.

Also I’d like to know how you MAKE a child be quiet.. because when they’re in those moods, no amount of discipline, screens or colouring would stop mine still being feral 😂

I’d say it at home. But camping on holiday…. i couldn’t really find fault with excited kids getting up and having fun. It’s holiday!!

I don't need screens to keep my kids quiet, though a board game certainly wouldn't do it! I don't want lights on at 5.30am when we're snoozing though so screens allow DH and I a more gentle wake up.

We camp multiple times per year and have 2 kids who are serious early risers.

Yet somehow we manage to keep them almost silent until 7am. Admittedly it's with the use of tablets and food, but it's just common courtesy!

But the reverse could be said. If you cannot keep noise down to a minimum extremely early in the morning, then perhaps you should go somewhere where that noise won't be heard outwith your 4 walls.

Incredibly selfish attitude.