Just read the bloody uniform policy!!!

But the logo is a sign of quality as well it’s like saying parents can’t buy their kids high quality winter boots (see pic above). It would be hard to find similar in all black for the same price, or higher in price for non- branded

No one is forced to send their kids anywhere, if you don't agree with the policy, choose another school or home school. Write to your mp or campaign for legislation to stop schools imposing these rules.

But if you accept a school place you should abide by the rules.

Problem is that the kids that can’t afford Nike trainers and Vivienne Westwood flats are then bullied for the unbranded shoes.

So school enforce a non branded ethic which parents ignore… because the school does put this info out there as they give into kids demands. then parents complain they’ve spent £100 on shoes and can’t afford more. Tough shit imo. read the requirements because it’s not hard and means less well off children don’t get ostracised by peers

All those who say "but in the world of work etc..."

• Even most work with uniforms aren't picky with exact shoes and hairstyles. (apart from military i guess - but we shouldn't have schools like the army).

• Thankfully work has never been so flexible in regard to working from home, flexitime, accommodation for disabilities etc. Its not the end of the world if you forget a pen or diary to work - in reality most of us use phones and laptops now for everything anyway. And if managers routinely treated employees in the belittling way I've seen some schools treat parents and pupils, they could get in trouble for bullying.....The way these schools act have nothing to do with work.

Sorry, that was in response to @SisterMichaelsHabit but the quote disappeared

yes, I agree with this about parents interpreting differently. I believe these are the Nike shoes that have been complained about, but I would have classed these are being plain black and without logos.

@CecilyP

Yep. My DS grew out of his clarks near the end of last school year and i replaced them with black trainers (adidas i think) because he could get more wear out of them outside school. luckily his school aren't bothered.

I find the whole school uniform business is just unnecessary power play. THeres now actual need to force anyone to wear something they dont want to wear. Its absolutely ridiculous, especially at public schools where they are told when to wear tights and when to wear socks. And have like three particular shoes to choose from, whether it fits you or not.

Are supermarket workers vulnerable children who are shamed, deprived of their education and treated with a complete lack of dignity for any minor infringement of idiot policies? No. Although i’m pretty sure that the world wouldn’t end if supermarket workers didn’t have a uniform either.

Absolutely love this!!

I am extremely pro-uniform but I am pro-sensible uniform.

The best uniform I saw was where the students got a choice of blue or yellow polo shirts with school name embroidered on (£7.99 from uniform shop), a navy fleece for warmth, and a choice of black or navy trousers, with black shoes.

That was it.

Everyone was the same enough. No one was turning up in Adidas, ganging together and ripping the shit out of kids that didn't have it. But at the same time no one was getting sent home for preposterous reasons that do not impact on learning or social development in any way, shape or form.

I don't actually agree with these "no logos" policies for shoes (or bags). In the nicest possible way, it's open to interpretation by those who think a "logo" and "a couple of letters" or "a word" (e.g. "kickers" on a label) are different things, and I don't think sending children home for the shoe choices their parents made is the right way of dealing with it. The kids might say what shoes they want, but ultimately it's the parent who pays therefore they're the one who has made the final decision by handing over their debit card at Sports Direct or wherever, so blaming the child for their parents' shit boundaries is unfair IMO.

@ZadocPDederick - I’m not necessarily a fan of uniform policies, but I do think that life is full of foolish policies, and the sooner we learn to challenge appropriately and courteously, the sooner we are able to be a part of effective change.

It's dumb. My sons just moved up to college. No uniform policy. If he wants to dye his hair green and wear a pink sparkly dress he can. He called the teacher 'Sir' and got told not to say it, call teachers by their first names. Schools go over the top and it's not necessary causing drama. Get the kids sat down and learning. You're not seeing anyone's shoes under a desk.

I'm on the fence. I hate scruffy looking uniform, however, I understand it difficult to buy the right shoes etc. That being said I can understand why schools are strict. When I was in school my trainers and shoes were stolen
So I can understand up to a point.

As if children in non-uniform countries didnt learn all that anyway...

I remember back to school shopping. We were not very well off but my mum was very determined to have school shoes that fit properly. The problem is that I have very short wide feet (I’m still only size 3 as an adult but most girls shoes are too narrow for me - the shoes my ten year old son wears are about right for me!) and one foot bigger than the other.

So around every shop we would trail on an impossible task of findin school shoes that would fit me as my mum got increasingly annoyed as though I was having small feet to spite her. After half a dozen shops finally a pair would be deemed satisfactory.

Of course next day we would discover my feet had swollen by that point and so my feet would be rubbed to blisters anyway.

And I was a kid who liked school. But I hate shoe shopping to this day.

I used to take the head through the uniform policy and explain to him why what I was wearing wasn't actually against the rules due to the poor drafting of the policy 🤣

Yes I was a PITA and I am sure he hated me.

It has probably been better preparation for my future career than most of the actual lessons!!!

Are those designer shoes suitable for school? No, for many reasons. Would I send a child home on day 1 or put her in isolation for wearing them? Absolutely not. Day 1 is about welcome. Sort the uniform out later.

It is not asking for a single source branded item, notice has been given, policy is clear. I am with the school. Especially as they started on day 1, did not wait.

I would support the parent refusing to send their child back there being prosecuted. I would sooner fine the parents who think the policy should not apply to them, than those going on a once in a generation or lifetime holiday.

I would say that perhaps footwear does have an impact on learning. If there are students spending a lot of money on the "cool" shoes and others cannot afford those that could impact the way the less affluent child perceives school. Everyone having the same type of shoes levels the playing field for the students IMO.

And yet once again, nobody gave a toss about the crumbling concrete 🤔😂.
Antiquated school uniform uniform policy trumps the buildings falling down.

The education system is a shit show!

Buckles are fashion now? Does that mean it’s slip ons or lace ups only?

The problem is he is desperate to fit in and gets incredibly anxious about being different. So if a pair of shoes can give him the confidence to go to school, I'll happily buy them. Especially as everyone else is wearing them. My point is I wouldn't have to there was a uniform policy meant no one was wearing them!

Every year the same bloody palaver of parents making a hoohah about their little darlings's uniform because they think they can get away with ignoring the school uniform policy. 🙄

I'm not British and never had to wear a school uniform but I managed to read my children's school policies and get it right.

Logoless shoes is a ridiculous policy.