To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?

I don’t know anyone that considered leaving the EU equates to ‘immediate’ economic prosperity!

The £350 million for the NHS on the side of the bus was a mass hallucination then? I could have sworn Johnson babbled on about “sunlit uplands” a few times too.

We don’t need the EU for anything (they even priced themselves out of the tourist market increasingly)

The future lies well beyond the vision, or lack of, that is always prevalent on these threads.

I don’t know anyone that considered leaving the EU equates to ‘immediate’ economic prosperity!
I think that’s you thing.

The U.K.is now set to pivot to the East.

I don’t see any point in wasting any more time revising contracts with the EU. The future is a global one, we have much to feel excited about! 💃🏼

I don't recall the Brexiters telling us that it was going to take years for us to see the benefits. Who on earth would have voted for being told that they would be worse off for a few decades but don't worry, your grandchildren will see the benefits?

Oh no, it was all about the easiest trade deals in history and how much the German car makers needed us.

Far from being a satellite of the EU, we were party to the rules being made. Now we are becoming a satellite. UKCA mark scrapped in favour of retaining the CE mark - which we once had a say in negotiating but now have to take what is given.

Rees Mogg said 50 years. I’ll be long dead by then so will all the idiots who voted for it. Shame they weren’t upfront about that in 2016, isn’t it?

What a silly post

Yes but it is very misleading to suggest that there would be immediate economic benefits. Maybe in ten years.

Vs an immediate market in the EU. That is hurting the UK. That deal needs to renegotiating urgently.

Incidentally it is important also not to get too delusional about deals with countries like India. These will neither be as comprehensive nor as flexible as a developed country. The idea these things could be done quickly is wrong.

You keep telling yourself that. The UK’s approach to signing trade deals is currently ‘where’s the dotted line, I’ll sign anything’ and every other country knows that.

And isn’t that the whole point. It was always going to take years to really see the benefits, for the nation to adjust moving from a satellite country of the EU to a fully governed government once again. It was always going to take time, and would have been much faster had so many misguided MPs not tried to block it all the way. We made it, unscathed, and now have a new chapter ahead of us x

And the insults begin. Any sign of those polls that turned out to be wrong yet @Lastchancechica?

It's important to realise that the trade deals such as CPTPP or India will not be in effect by the time of the next election. If there's any benefits to them, it will be in many years to come, not a few months.

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@Lastchancechica "remoaners"?

Yet another reason not to take your comments seriously.

How is your explanation of Labour's eye-watering woke agenda coming on?

Until I see £350 million a week into the NHS you can fuck off with your "it's not so bad" shit.

I think it’s turned out okay actually! Certainly not the hellfire people said it would. The new trade deals coming up will start to trickle in. It was never a five year job!

@Lastchancechica.
"Ah all the old remoaners. They didn’t cover themselves in glory trying to overturn a democratic referendum"

Yes, because Brexit is such a resounding success - not.

Dear me , @VikingVolva your perceptions are desperately askew. I urge you to reconsider your immoderate and ill-informed comments.

Show me the polls that have been wrong since 2015 @Lastchancechica. Or is that as reliable as all the untruths your posts are peppered with?

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1698989749736779947?s=20

Q - Is this government failing children?

Gillian Keegan - "Absolutely not"

Tamara Cohen - 2 years ago the DfE asked for 200 new schools to be built a year... but they ended up with 50 a year... & only 4 schools have been completed since Feb 2021...

@Blossomtoes - I was working in Westminster at the time. Once Johnson did that a lot of people began to leave the Conservatives and it is still happening. Some of his appointments as a PM were mad. It was clear early on he was joking and consequently he wasn't going to achieve anything even with a good majority. The reason was obvious; he picked people who disliked the civil service so much they couldn't handle civil servants. Big mistake. You need to work in a big system. You cannot change it overnight.

The Conservatives have always been about competence. They have lost that. It's what will get people to vote for other parties.

Because the polls are so accurate.
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Let’s just overlook the last eight years when they have consistently got it wrong.

That’s not what the polls have been saying consistently for the last year.

Ah all the old remoaners. They didn’t cover themselves in glory trying to overturn a democratic referendum.

Trust me the Tories are here to stay the British Public adore them, many of the Working Class included.