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To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?

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malificent7 · 04/09/2023 09:18

School closures for repairs just before the term starts is bonkers. Are they now content with the amount of money they have plundered and now want Labour to inherit the mess or are they hoping that the dumb electorate will still vote for them or say " well the cost of living has hit everywhere...its nothing to do with Brexit?" Or " but boats."?
I don't get it.

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verdantverdure · 21/09/2023 14:06

I'm just here to share this meme

To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?
verdantverdure · 21/09/2023 14:05

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/09/2023 14:18

I think the Tories are trying to lose all the elections. FFS who puts an Enoch Powell fan up to be their London Mayoral candidate?🤦‍♀️

Enoch Powell used to be too far right for the Tories.

These days... Hmm

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/09/2023 14:18

I think the Tories are trying to lose all the elections. FFS who puts an Enoch Powell fan up to be their London Mayoral candidate?🤦‍♀️

Bollindger · 16/09/2023 14:10

I think that Labour isn't winning as the best team for the job. More the floating voters have no one else to vote for to form a Govenment.
Everyone knows this.

So why aren't Labour using this momentum, they just seem so lacklustre and underperforming. I truly believe the Unions will be making demands and given them unless a true leader appears .

BIossomtoes · 15/09/2023 13:18

SnapdragonToadflax · 15/09/2023 10:08

Labour won't and don't need to release a manifesto until an election is called. That's how politics works.

Not only that but the Tories keep nicking their ideas and claiming credit for them. If they’ve got any sense they’ll let the government get its manifesto out first when they finally stop dragging their heels and call an election.

SnapdragonToadflax · 15/09/2023 10:08

Labour won't and don't need to release a manifesto until an election is called. That's how politics works.

Bollindger · 15/09/2023 10:00

I don't thing any party deserves to win. The Torys are luke a rudderless boat. Labour are like a group of ants in need of a leader who isn't scared to act. Going round and round in a circle.
Where is the opposing voice, because KS isn't it.
I have looked and can see no clear manifesto for Labour and yet they will be voted in and since they are said to be going to repeal the strike ban, wages going up means food going up and cost of living going up and this will mean no gains.

Highandlows · 15/09/2023 00:37

@SerendipityJane you call people thick but can only communicate by insulting.

verdantverdure · 15/09/2023 00:11

longwayoff · 14/09/2023 20:44

Well yes, hence Biden, I just hope he can withstand it as the only option. He looks worryingly frail. I must stop this. I need to resume news avoidance, something I used to despise. Survival mode.

I feel if I don't keep up with the news my kids will be going to school with crumbling concrete over their heads and the river next to my parents home will be filled with human excrement.

Oh.

longwayoff · 14/09/2023 20:44

Well yes, hence Biden, I just hope he can withstand it as the only option. He looks worryingly frail. I must stop this. I need to resume news avoidance, something I used to despise. Survival mode.

verdantverdure · 14/09/2023 20:27

longwayoff · 14/09/2023 19:25

I too, want to watch Kuensberg but feel as you do. I fear it will make me feel both furious and defeated. How much more of these truth-twisting shapeshifters can we take? And look at the USA. Trump or Biden is the choice. I've never felt so despairing. It cant go well.

I'll brave it at the weekend with a glass of wine and my husband here to shout at the telly with me Grin

It is laughable that Biden is the left option but when you have a far right party banning books, practising voter suppression and curtailing women's rights I guess everything is left of there.

I'll settle for "less evil" "less stupid" and "actually wants to govern a country."

longwayoff · 14/09/2023 19:25

I too, want to watch Kuensberg but feel as you do. I fear it will make me feel both furious and defeated. How much more of these truth-twisting shapeshifters can we take? And look at the USA. Trump or Biden is the choice. I've never felt so despairing. It cant go well.

verdantverdure · 14/09/2023 16:34

Theresa May is on a full revision of history kick at the moment by the look of it.

It did make me laugh that Sunak's spokesman said that he is a msn of action. How ridiculous is that?!

I want to watch the Kuenssberg thing, State Of Chaos is it? But I suspect all the talking heads ok it will be the ones who caused the chaos and I don't know if I have the heart or stomach for it.

This country has been in chaos ever since we re-elected the squabbling Tories in 2015, but even I am gobsmacked at how bad its got since Brexit. And how fast.

We can't go on like this.

LizzieW1969 · 14/09/2023 16:27

verdantverdure · 13/09/2023 15:36

I bet Sunak doesn't like that.

Even if you didn't see any PMQs you know it's him.

He's long reminded me of one of those dolls with a pull cord that repeats the same catchphrases.

Theresa May was like that during the 2017 election campaign, she kept parroting the phrase ‘strong and stable’ when it was obvious to all that her leadership was anything but that.

She was similar to Sunak in that she was voted in by Tory MPs but not by the party membership, as Andrea Leadsom pulled out of the race.

verdantverdure · 14/09/2023 16:15

maybebluth · 13/09/2023 21:26

They are honestly ALL so awful, I have never felt so jaded in decades by our politics. Not just all incompetent, but actively unpleasant people

I was actually shocked by Andrea Jenkyns giving the finger outside Number 10.

I don't know the kind of people who behave like that.

Kwasi Kwarteng giggling at the Queen's funeral was another shocker.

Again, I don't know anyone who would behave like that.

Most people would have too much respect.

I don't like members of Parliament swearing either. Not to clutch my pearls, I swear myself now and then, but not at work, not in public, not in any position of responsibility. Not on tv and in newspapers. Not in front of children.

verdantverdure · 14/09/2023 16:07

Ha! @SerendipityJane Grin

maybebluth · 13/09/2023 21:26

They are honestly ALL so awful, I have never felt so jaded in decades by our politics. Not just all incompetent, but actively unpleasant people

verdantverdure · 13/09/2023 15:36

DuncinToffee · 13/09/2023 13:04

Inaction Man is trending on twitter/x

I bet Sunak doesn't like that.

Even if you didn't see any PMQs you know it's him.

He's long reminded me of one of those dolls with a pull cord that repeats the same catchphrases.

verdantverdure · 13/09/2023 15:29

Peregrina · 13/09/2023 10:16

What can they say in opposition? Nothing.

It won't stop them though. Didn't Boris Johnson bring in the original ULEZ scheme in London. With the recent by-election in Uxbridge where the Tories won by shamelessly making its extension an issue, and blaming a Labour mayor, this fact was conveniently forgotten.

What utter numpties they are to have voted for a Tory candidate who said he would "Stop ULEZ".

How exactly?

Grant Shapps as Tory transport minister is the reason it has expanded to cover Uxbridge.

And why?

What kind of numbnutses are against cleaner air?!

DuncinToffee · 13/09/2023 13:04

Inaction Man is trending on twitter/x

Peregrina · 13/09/2023 10:16

What can they say in opposition? Nothing.

It won't stop them though. Didn't Boris Johnson bring in the original ULEZ scheme in London. With the recent by-election in Uxbridge where the Tories won by shamelessly making its extension an issue, and blaming a Labour mayor, this fact was conveniently forgotten.

Anxioys · 12/09/2023 21:51

Do you know what is most hysterical about this after Brexit and Johnson? The gift that stands to keep giving to the Tory Party after they lose?

Johnson broke all the conventions on ministerial power. He let his people do whatever they liked. Removed the procedures and conventions.

It's a politician's dream, a civil service smashed and a constitutional mess. You can do what you like. The boot is going to be on the other foot. What can they say in opposition? Nothing. It will be years and years of them being shoed due to their own short term stupidity.

Abhannmor · 12/09/2023 20:33

Big business courting Labour. Ferring pharmaceuticals going to abandon the Libdems ?

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