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To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?

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malificent7 · 04/09/2023 09:18

School closures for repairs just before the term starts is bonkers. Are they now content with the amount of money they have plundered and now want Labour to inherit the mess or are they hoping that the dumb electorate will still vote for them or say " well the cost of living has hit everywhere...its nothing to do with Brexit?" Or " but boats."?
I don't get it.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 05/09/2023 00:41

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 19:41

But why do people keep getting folled by tories?

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Not everyone is.

The last GE saw PM Johnson win with a landslide because he said he'd deliver a Brexit that would benefit the UK and its citizens. Now everyone knows he was lying.

GC feminists voted for them because they believed "at least the Tories know what a woman is". This has been proven wrong by Gillian Keegan, Jamie Wallis and no beginning to them challenging the TRAs in the party or safeguarding women's and children's rights.

Some voted for them because of their tough line on immigration.🤦‍♀️ Or for them being the party of law and order.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. Or because they were the party of fiscal responsibility.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂

The Tories have managed to piss off every demographic in the country. Including Tory voters. Sunak's is a zombie government and the Tories are toast at the next election.

verdantverdure · 05/09/2023 00:18

The Tories were told there was a critical risk to life if the RAAC programme was not funded.

The Tories did not fund it.

Gillian Keegan is right, she's the first one to go "Fucksaje this is CHILDREN's lives they're talking about!" and close the most overdue for repair schools.

The rest of the Tories,

Sunak and Gove particularly.

did not give a shiny shit about our children.

To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?
Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 23:30

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/09/2023 12:34

I want to know how labour are going to turn the country around. If they can come up with some decent properly costed policies I may vote for them for the first time in my life. As it is all I’ve heard is the £1 billion they are going to raise from VAT on private school fees (a drop in the ocean of the £70 billion yearly schools budget). They say that they are not going to raise income tax (which is understandable given that the tax burden is at a 70 year high) but how are they actually going to fund improvements to schools, healthcare and other public services?!

And for what amazing policies have you been voting for tory all these years?

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 23:00

lightinthebox · 04/09/2023 11:44

I’m politically homeless now, but Tories ‘know what a woman is’ so that’s more important to some people than school buildings being unsafe.

Well said.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 22:48

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2023 22:46

Clearly some of you have forgotten that Jeremy Corbyn was the worst Prime Minister this country ever

Oh. Oops.

😂

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2023 22:46

Clearly some of you have forgotten that Jeremy Corbyn was the worst Prime Minister this country ever

Oh. Oops.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 22:21

It’s been like it all my life. I can’t see it changing before I die.

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:17

@Kendodd

I don’t doubt that but surely there comes a tipping point whereby in order to govern you should try not to overly piss the general public off should you wish to remain in power. It’s a horrible political cycle this country has got itself into.

To me, to you, to me, to you…. Labour, Tory, labour, Tory.

Its bloody tiresome.

Kendodd · 04/09/2023 22:13

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:01

I feel similar. It’s literally like they want to lose.

I don't think that.
I think this is them governing to their values and competency.

Kendodd · 04/09/2023 22:11

Personally, I blame Tory voters for the state of the country. We get what we vote for. They can own their own mess.

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:01

I feel similar. It’s literally like they want to lose.

DuncinToffee · 04/09/2023 21:56

It's not just schools, it's also hospitals, court buildings and now theatres.

verdantverdure · 04/09/2023 21:35

After a school roof collapsed in 2018 there was an assessment that stated that 300-400 schools a year would need to be rebuilt per year in order to stay ahead of the collapsing concrete.

As far as I understand the facts they've been doing an average of less than 50 a year since then.

State schools innit? Their children don't go to those.

verdantverdure · 04/09/2023 21:11

Saschka · 04/09/2023 20:15

They were hoping these chickens would come home to roost after the next election, Ie when it would be Labour’s problem. Unfortunately for them, it has come to a head six months too early.

AKA gambling with people's lives.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2023 20:55

ilovesooty · 04/09/2023 20:06

Exactly.

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Oh, I don't know ... any excuse to find a picture of Mr Savile sporting a "Vote Conservative" T-Shirt is never going to help the Tories, is it ?

verdantverdure · 04/09/2023 20:53

Anxioys · 04/09/2023 19:34

Well my money is on a large Labour majority and the SNP looking lonely.

Me too.

verdantverdure · 04/09/2023 20:52

Many Tory voters haven’t been ‘fooled’ at all. They support the Tories because they believe the party will represent & protect their interests.

Like I keep saying, to vote Tory nowadays you have to believe things that aren't true.

Anxioys · 04/09/2023 20:27

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 20:13

higher rate tax payers who believe they will always have to pay lower taxes under a Tory government.

How’s that working out for them now?

This long term higher rate taxpayer is paying MORE than ever and does not vote Tory.

I did however used to get reasonable public services for this. No longer.

ZoChan · 04/09/2023 20:19

tt9 · 04/09/2023 10:34

at this point I'm hoping one of the nordic countries would invade us as we are clearly no longer able to govern ourselves

🤞🏻🤞🏻
All hail King Ragnar 🙌🏻

Saschka · 04/09/2023 20:15

They were hoping these chickens would come home to roost after the next election, Ie when it would be Labour’s problem. Unfortunately for them, it has come to a head six months too early.

verdantverdure · 04/09/2023 20:13

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 19:41

But why do people keep getting folled by tories?

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To be honest if your target market are the people who don't care about facts and reality you can do whatever you like so long as you regularly say something they agree with about bringing back imperial measures/capital punishment/National Service or women being women, or asylum seekers, or some other focus grouped to appeal to them meaningless old nonsense.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 20:13

higher rate tax payers who believe they will always have to pay lower taxes under a Tory government.

How’s that working out for them now?

IsitChristmasyet23 · 04/09/2023 20:10

BarelyLiterate · 04/09/2023 20:08

Many Tory voters haven’t been ‘fooled’ at all. They support the Tories because they believe the party will represent & protect their interests.

They may be retired people relying on their triple locked pensions ( a Tory policy) or higher rate tax payers who believe they will always have to pay lower taxes under a Tory government.

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Higher rate tax payers on the whole do not vote Tory. Their marginal rates are the highest in the world. You mean pensioners and asset rich. The Tories have brought in more damaging tax policies than any government. They’ve been told that too by their own reports.

BarelyLiterate · 04/09/2023 20:08

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 19:41

But why do people keep getting folled by tories?

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Many Tory voters haven’t been ‘fooled’ at all. They support the Tories because they believe the party will represent & protect their interests.

They may be retired people relying on their triple locked pensions ( a Tory policy) or higher rate tax payers who believe they will always have to pay lower taxes under a Tory government.

IsitChristmasyet23 · 04/09/2023 20:08

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 20:06

They are already the most highly taxed in the world and are changing their behaviour.

I really don’t think they are. Scandinavian rates are far higher. As are some African countries.

Marginal rates - yes they do. Which is why Labour have you turned. They know it’s stupid.