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To wish I didn’t have my 3yo son?

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Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 17:29

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

I love him; I do but I simply cannot pretend my life isn’t incredibly hard and shit because of him. He has ASD, is non verbal, has very little understanding of what’s going on around him or concept of danger. He suffers with PICA too so is constantly eating EVERYTHING and yes I mean everything.

He’s massive for his age; the size of a 6 year old and fights me tooth and nail over things like bum changes. I can’t go anywhere or do anything unless it’s exactly what he wants and there’s very very little engagement between us despite endless trying on my part. No one wants to look after him, my mum will occasionally as she knows how much I’m struggling but it’s hard for her I know that. Ive stuck him in nursery where he had a specialist 1:1 worker 5 days a week but it’s just a few hours and honestly the sound of him screeching and the insane anxiety over his constant unpredictable behaviour just ruin my life.

Worst of all, he has a 2yo sister, whose life is being so detrimentally impacted. I often just think to myself how amazing it would be to just have her; the freedom of things we could do; places we could go. All the ties and limits and restrictions lifted. I often feel like I might as well not have had my daughter because I never get to enjoy her and she’s always shafted off to family whilst I Labour on with DS in this weird kind of isolated purgatory, because family are willing to look after her.

we have all the appropriate support functions in place; all the experts and social services…etc. We’ve been on this path a long time now as it was clear from around 10 months that DS was not developing properly.
(I was already well into DD pregnancy by then).

Other than my mum family/friends don’t even want to spend more than 30 minutes in our company and I really feel that ‘oh god wtf is your life now? This is hideous’ feeling whenever they do.

I want to be one of those social media disability mums who are like intensely positive but I just don’t feel that way. The physical and emotional care he needs is just so depressing.

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MrsSchrute · 02/09/2023 20:08

The only person who thinks I’m going a good job or that I’m strong or amazing (despite me having the entire ASD, EHCP,DLA,Carer and now entry to special school processes completely on my own alongside parenting, is my mum.

Well now two people think you're amazing OP.

Honestly, I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. What a woman. You are doing your absolute best in an impossible situation, both of your children are very lucky to have you.

Don't ever feel like you are not doing enough. You sound wonderful.

flapjackfairy · 02/09/2023 20:08

@Thehonestbadger
Aw it is just so incredibly tough . My heart goes out to you and I hear you . X

Araminta34 · 02/09/2023 20:05

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:59

They do but not for a three year old and its not just something you can request and be given
Its a long slow process and based on the needs of the child.

This is what they say on their website:

We offer full-time residential care, as well as short breaks and emergency placements, where possible. We’re overseen by Ofsted and are registered for children and young people, aged 0-18 years. All our children have complex physical disabilities and associated communication, sensory and learning difficulties and our dedicated staff team is specially trained to support a range of complex medical conditions

Of course I realize that it would probably be very difficult to get a place there.

onlylovecanhurtlikethis · 02/09/2023 20:05

In OP's case yes I probably would, although fostering seems the most likely scenario.

This is going to sound awful but if I had other children then yes I agree with this poster and I also probably would.

waterrat · 02/09/2023 20:01

It's been said multiple times here but people without SEN children are naive about the entire structure of support that they think exists.

We live in a society without the basics remember - councils cutting millions and millions from their budgets - shuttered up youth clubs, falling down playgrounds, parks with no toilets.

In the UK that we live in now schools do not have money for enough teachers/ TAs/ SENCOs - there simply is not money in LAs for funding the lovely 'respite care' that so many posters keep mentioning

Also - there just are not enough families and individuals who are offering their time to do this - just as OP can't cope with it, other people can't either.

The idea that there is some lovely caring foster family with open arms to take a child with this level of need - and that the state will just say oh sure hand them over we will give them all the care they need - at 3 years old!! It's ridiculous.

There are not even enough foster carers for children without additional needs

OP you are suffering and I'm sorry - all I can say is get as much breaks /paid for care as you can and push for every single bit of support from the council

Find friends in similar situations through support groups - that is the best thing about SEN parent life - the other parents you meet.

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:59

Araminta34 · 02/09/2023 19:55

I don't know which area of the country you are in but there is this residential school in Yorkshire.

I don't know if other similar places exist in other parts of the country.

https://hollybanktrust.com/what-we-do/

They do but not for a three year old and its not just something you can request and be given
Its a long slow process and based on the needs of the child.

Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 19:58

sleepymama3 · 02/09/2023 19:00

I have nothing but immense respect for you OP and for your daughter. I am not going to insult you by attempting to offer advice or platitudes, but certainly no judgement here. Vent as much as you need.

I could have replied to so many of the lovely comments, but I’m doing bedtime alone so I’ve chosen this one as it’s so simple and lovely.

I feel like such a mess, I’m always ALWAYS scrambling for help, begging for family or friends to help me essentially survive DH’s work shifts. DS can’t manage more than a morning session at nursery and DH works 13 hour days frequently. There’s a pile of evidence, from every kind of expert imaginable that all says the same thing ‘DS needs constant 1:1 care and supervision.’ They quite literally explain in their reports that our home situation makes this impossible and creates an unmanageable situation but ultimately nothing is done about it, it’s just ‘acknowledged’.

Social services awarded him a PA for 3 hours per week!! And told me that was ‘really good because they don’t usually get anything at that age, he only got it because of his younger sister being in the mix’ WHAT?!?!

The level of anxiety and misery I feel is SO HIGH. I’m constantly terrified of something happening to DS and my being blamed for it, because they’ve acknowledged he needs 1:1 and they know I can’t give that so what happens if he eats a rock or coin or something he finds on the floor (I keep the house clear of any small parts but things happen) and chokes on it whilst I’m trying to potty DD or feed DD? Is that my fault? Will I be done for negligent parenting?
All this goes around in my head.

I developed awful IBS, I think due to the extreme stress and anxiety and honestly the noises DS makes just set me off so bad. I can only eat like 7 ‘safe’ foods, everything else makes me awfully poorly and all this is being investigated but I’m confident it’s stress as I didn’t have it before the kids.

….and in amongst it all, whilst I am giving just about 500% on a daily basis and feel like I’m going to fall down on the spot and cry most of the time, I simultaneously seem to be failing at everything. I can’t give DS all the therapies, technicals and approaches the experts keep recommending because I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD IN TOW ALSO (no matter how many times I repeat this is never seems to sink in) and I can’t parent DD efficiently because I have DS in tow. And I’m just a big giant, frazzled, exhausted, whinging, emotional, MESS!

The only person who thinks I’m going a good job or that I’m strong or amazing (despite me having the entire ASD, EHCP,DLA,Carer and now entry to special school processes completely on my own alongside parenting, is my mum. Who is basically a third parent to my kids and not by choice, just because she understands from her own childcare career that my situation is actually totally unmanageable.

In terms of adaption/fostering. I won’t say I don’t think about it on the bad days, I do. I also won’t say ‘I WOULD NEVER’ because honestly there might come a time in the future where I would. I think the crux of it for me is that right now whilst terribly stressful and hard work both physically and emotionally, DS isn’t violent, he isn’t aggressive and he doesn’t pose an active threat other than to himself. I mean he has occasionally bitten DD but usually in retaliation to her biting him. He certainly doesn’t give more than he gets if that’s makes sense. He is HARD work but right now I couldn’t live with myself at the prospect of putting him into care. I think I also still hold out a glimmer of hope that everything we are throwing at him might make a difference.

He is progressing, albeit very slowly and it can often feel like trying to light damp wood as he’ll suddenly do something and we’ll get excited but then it’s gone and he never does it again. Lots of miss fires and misery.
I just keep telling myself ‘we might be that 1/10 (the odds paediatrician gave me for kids like DS) who start Talking and understanding improve to a level you can live some sort of regular family life with them.’ Even though I know it’s not likely, I still hope.

He has started making better eye contact and can be very affectionate (although this is him doing it to you and not a two way street if that makes sense- it’s also often very intense and can hurt, like he’ll cuddle me whilst trying to eat my hair) and his tolerance with other kids is very good from being at nursery. I feel like if he could just develop some reliable communication skills, It doesn’t even have to be talking I’d happily learn to sign or use a tablet…etc but he doesn’t have the mental capacity for any of it. He would be so much less frustrated, scream less, meltdown less and hopefully be so much easier to handle!

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SummerDawn2000 · 02/09/2023 19:56

There’s no mercy for parents of child with disability.

I don’t judge you, it’s so so hard and there’s less than fuck all support.

do you get support from your partner?

rant scream on here.

Snowpaw · 02/09/2023 19:56

Clefable · 02/09/2023 18:15

I am genuinely interested in what the solutions are when your child makes your life a living hell and your other child's life is also crap because of it. Because you apparently can't ever contemplate or discuss that you're unable to care for this child without massive detriment to yourself and your other child, so what? You just have to push on with everyone's life being awful and a child who is in many ways totally unaware of being part of a family anyway and may never be aware? Until you have a breakdown, your other child grows up damaged, you are physically unable to keep them safe, etc.

There's no nice solution here. So what can OP do to make life bearable for her and her daughter as well as ensuring her son's safety and well-being? He is one individual, the same as they are, the fact he is disabled doesn't mean that the needs of OP and her other child are unimportant. They are individuals too. Everyone's life matters in this.

I'm sorry, OP, it sounds horrendously difficult and your feelings are totally understandable.

It is very brave to contemplate and discuss that you're unable to care for a child. And to ask for support when you need it. When my brother was a teenager he moved into foster care at the request of my parents because of the impact upon the rest of the house. I was 9 at the time. It massively improved the lives of all involved. We still saw him regularly but in a way that was manageable for my parents and siblings. He is now a very well supported thriving adult who has been helped to find a work placement that he can do, and lives with carers who support him be as independent as he can be. I have just come back from a lovely party with all the extended family, and he came too and I was just so proud of him and where we all are now as a family compared to what it would have been like had my parents tried to manage him themselves. My Mum has been able to enjoy her retirement and has hobbies, and goes on holidays. She now sees my brother fortnightly; they do an activity that they both enjoy, he has a meal at her house and then his carers collect him later on. It is a level of contact that benefits them both.

Sometimes the thing that is hardest to contemplate at the time ends up being for the greater good, down the road.

Clarabell77 · 02/09/2023 19:56

LOSTAN · 02/09/2023 19:33

OP this is awful and a hideous situation. Please do what is right for you and your daughter.
😘

Not what’s right for the disabled child?

Araminta34 · 02/09/2023 19:55

I don't know which area of the country you are in but there is this residential school in Yorkshire.

I don't know if other similar places exist in other parts of the country.

https://hollybanktrust.com/what-we-do/

Hollybank residents playing instruments

What We Do - Hollybank Trust

Hollybank Trust is a charity based in West and South Yorkshire and we are proud of our reputation for excellence over our rich history.

https://hollybanktrust.com/what-we-do

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:55

Prinnny · 02/09/2023 19:52

God that’s just so shit for you, your feelings are completely valid.

In one way it’s good you’ve had DD so you’ve got to experience the highs of parenting but I would imagine it just highlights the lows with DS and you feel guilty at not being able to give her all the time and attention you want.

Could you push social by saying I will relinquish care if you don’t provide help? I would be screaming at anyone and everyone I could about safeguarding and my mental health etc just out of pure desperation to get some sort of help but hearing what others posters have said on here it looks like there’s fuck all support around.

Yeah ,it doesn't work.like that 🙄
And you can scream and shout all.you want but social.services can't magic up.what they don't have .

TeenLifeMum · 02/09/2023 19:53

There are respite foster options. Dh and I want to offer this in a few years. My experience is that, depending on needs, a foster family gives regular respite (like one weekend a month). They usually build a relationship with the family too and dc gets used to the routine so it’s part of their normal. That would be a really good option to explore.

Rockmehardplace · 02/09/2023 19:53

My son is now 7 but with the same issues (luckily I have no other children). It’s relentless and soul destroying. I keep thinking what it would be like to have a child you could just pop to the shops with, or bake, or play with.
it does get a bit easier once they go to school, which I know is no help to you just now. My wee one learned how to use PECS and uses the ‘two fists’ methods of communication and that made things slightly easier. Those suggesting just to “get respite” have no idea how difficult it is to access these services for a young child, who SS will argue requires the same level of supervision to any other young child.
no suggestions here, but i do hear you,

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:53

Astridastro · 02/09/2023 19:39

OP I work with children like your DS and know their families and have sat and cried with them too, lockdown was especially horrendous. There’s nothing you said in your post I haven’t heard before unfortunately. And what other posters have said there’s very little help out there which is utterly disgusting. Some of our older children aged 8+ get respite care 2 nights a week or some get a carer in the mornings to help get them ready for school.

I would say do not let nursery send him home, your LA have a duty to provide a nursery education for him (sorry I don’t know how the English system works) but where I am he would be classed as vulnerable and be entitled to 5 full days 9-4 50 weeks of the year that would be something and give you a break to spend time with your DD.

Another family I know actually bought a small flat and mum & dad alternated nights between the family home and the flat to get a break they said it was either that or divorce.

I don’t know what else to suggest OP other than I wish you were close to me I’d come and give you a break for a few hours x

Two.night ,s aweek??
We are supposed to.have two.nights a month agreed before last Xmas ,we haven't been able to.access it yet due to.no.staff

Prinnny · 02/09/2023 19:52

God that’s just so shit for you, your feelings are completely valid.

In one way it’s good you’ve had DD so you’ve got to experience the highs of parenting but I would imagine it just highlights the lows with DS and you feel guilty at not being able to give her all the time and attention you want.

Could you push social by saying I will relinquish care if you don’t provide help? I would be screaming at anyone and everyone I could about safeguarding and my mental health etc just out of pure desperation to get some sort of help but hearing what others posters have said on here it looks like there’s fuck all support around.

ObservingToo · 02/09/2023 19:51

Whattodo112222 · 02/09/2023 19:49

No advice OP but you are one strong woman and I couldn't even imagine how hard it is.
Big hugs x

I absolutely agree.

ObservingToo · 02/09/2023 19:50

Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 17:29

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

I love him; I do but I simply cannot pretend my life isn’t incredibly hard and shit because of him. He has ASD, is non verbal, has very little understanding of what’s going on around him or concept of danger. He suffers with PICA too so is constantly eating EVERYTHING and yes I mean everything.

He’s massive for his age; the size of a 6 year old and fights me tooth and nail over things like bum changes. I can’t go anywhere or do anything unless it’s exactly what he wants and there’s very very little engagement between us despite endless trying on my part. No one wants to look after him, my mum will occasionally as she knows how much I’m struggling but it’s hard for her I know that. Ive stuck him in nursery where he had a specialist 1:1 worker 5 days a week but it’s just a few hours and honestly the sound of him screeching and the insane anxiety over his constant unpredictable behaviour just ruin my life.

Worst of all, he has a 2yo sister, whose life is being so detrimentally impacted. I often just think to myself how amazing it would be to just have her; the freedom of things we could do; places we could go. All the ties and limits and restrictions lifted. I often feel like I might as well not have had my daughter because I never get to enjoy her and she’s always shafted off to family whilst I Labour on with DS in this weird kind of isolated purgatory, because family are willing to look after her.

we have all the appropriate support functions in place; all the experts and social services…etc. We’ve been on this path a long time now as it was clear from around 10 months that DS was not developing properly.
(I was already well into DD pregnancy by then).

Other than my mum family/friends don’t even want to spend more than 30 minutes in our company and I really feel that ‘oh god wtf is your life now? This is hideous’ feeling whenever they do.

I want to be one of those social media disability mums who are like intensely positive but I just don’t feel that way. The physical and emotional care he needs is just so depressing.

What a brave an honest woman you are. I’ve been a single parent for years and have often thought the same. My children have no additional needs, but I have found parenting exhausting and overwhelming at times. It is not my choice to be a single parent anymore than it is yours to be in your situation. It’s very easy for people to judge, but not to walk in our shoes. You are a mother to two children. You need to do what you think is best for both of them and for you.

Whattodo112222 · 02/09/2023 19:49

No advice OP but you are one strong woman and I couldn't even imagine how hard it is.
Big hugs x

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:49

Stormydayagain · 02/09/2023 19:36

My cousin is in his 50s and is very much as you describe your DS (ASD, non verbal, epileptic), by Aunt was a SEN teacher before he was born. He went into full time residential ‘school’ when he became large enough that he presented a danger to his younger siblings (sitting on them, violence etc), and has been in 24 hour care his entire adult life. My Aunt and uncle visit him regularly and take him out regularly. My Aunt is very vocally pro Termination for medical reason.

Don’t feel bad OP, get your DS into full time residential care as soon as possible and then you can be the best mum you can be to him with visits and advocating for his needs, and be the mum you want to your DD.

There is no.residential schools for a three year old ,there may have been 50 years ago but there are not anymore .

Rosehiptea · 02/09/2023 19:48

WillowCraft · 02/09/2023 17:53

There must be something. There must be parents who just can't cope with a disabled child. Perhaps the child would go into foster care?

This is not how it works. There is no such thing as a right to give up a child.

Codependantnomore · 02/09/2023 19:46

I am so sorry OP, this sounds like hell on earth.

SonicStars · 02/09/2023 19:46

It does get better. A previous poster mentions the progress children make at school and the tools that are used there to help with routine and behaviour will also empower you. But it absolutely gets harder too. It's really tough having a child the size of a 6yr old with these needs and it's super tough when they're 16 (a big space outdoors and a wheelbarrow might help, or a treadmill if it suits them).

If you want to work on building your bond maybe try spending time cuddling him when he's asleep? Also look for social organisations nearby. Many will be for older children but the parents will remember what it was like at 3. Much harder to find things like that or accessible adventure playgrounds in non urban areas but if there is something then it might be worth travelling to meet people. Hard to explain without outing my area but we have places where adults with additional needs do things like gardening and so it's a comforting place to go to not feel self concious about the noises and stimming. My council does offer respite, but there are too few carers on the scheme so it's tough to get a place. Keep pushing though, keep asking. If you could get 4hrs once a month to focus on fun with your daughter it gives you something good to look forward to. Student volunteer centres occasionally have decent befriending projects too that could talk him for an hour or 2.

It can still be grim though. Allow yourself those feelings because it is so so tough.
You're doing great. Just keep swimming.

halle1997 · 02/09/2023 19:44

There is a app you can use to communicate if he likes watching a tablet you make grids and add pictures and they press what they want. Alot of our non verbal students use either this or a pex book to communicate. Xx

Scottishdreams1991 · 02/09/2023 19:42

Are you anywhere close to Edinburgh or Fife or Dundee?