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To wish I didn’t have my 3yo son?

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Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 17:29

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

I love him; I do but I simply cannot pretend my life isn’t incredibly hard and shit because of him. He has ASD, is non verbal, has very little understanding of what’s going on around him or concept of danger. He suffers with PICA too so is constantly eating EVERYTHING and yes I mean everything.

He’s massive for his age; the size of a 6 year old and fights me tooth and nail over things like bum changes. I can’t go anywhere or do anything unless it’s exactly what he wants and there’s very very little engagement between us despite endless trying on my part. No one wants to look after him, my mum will occasionally as she knows how much I’m struggling but it’s hard for her I know that. Ive stuck him in nursery where he had a specialist 1:1 worker 5 days a week but it’s just a few hours and honestly the sound of him screeching and the insane anxiety over his constant unpredictable behaviour just ruin my life.

Worst of all, he has a 2yo sister, whose life is being so detrimentally impacted. I often just think to myself how amazing it would be to just have her; the freedom of things we could do; places we could go. All the ties and limits and restrictions lifted. I often feel like I might as well not have had my daughter because I never get to enjoy her and she’s always shafted off to family whilst I Labour on with DS in this weird kind of isolated purgatory, because family are willing to look after her.

we have all the appropriate support functions in place; all the experts and social services…etc. We’ve been on this path a long time now as it was clear from around 10 months that DS was not developing properly.
(I was already well into DD pregnancy by then).

Other than my mum family/friends don’t even want to spend more than 30 minutes in our company and I really feel that ‘oh god wtf is your life now? This is hideous’ feeling whenever they do.

I want to be one of those social media disability mums who are like intensely positive but I just don’t feel that way. The physical and emotional care he needs is just so depressing.

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Yesiwasasnteacher · 02/09/2023 20:50

I know the country is in dire straits but I’ve just googled respite care in my home county. There were options. Obviously there used to be more, and I can’t judge the suitability of what was offered.
Neither of your children will benefit from you breaking and that could happen.
If you start with a Google search for your county that might throw up some options ( as well as LA I saw Barnardos and Autistic Society listings)
Then email your SW, tell them you are at breaking point. Don’t hold back.
I’m retired so it’s a while since I was involved in fostering but there are foster parents who offer short term care and have experience of children with complex needs, ( I was one) although they might not be in your area.
There are residential places, they do exist but from the last (brief) involvement I had about 5 years ago I’d say they’re not good ;owned by large companies for profit.

x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:48

That all.sounds rather lovely doesn't it?
We know what should happen and you can post as many links as you want but in reality there is very little In they way of practical support .
I'm talking from experience.

JMSA · 02/09/2023 20:46

I'm so sorry xx

Solonge · 02/09/2023 20:45

lostinmymess · 02/09/2023 17:50

Can people please please stop suggesting residential care? There is no such thing esp for 3 year old. There is next to no support for families with complex kids let alone residential placement. Please, for the love of god, stop suggesting this nonsense.

Support available for children and parents in England (autism.org.uk)

Support available for children and parents in England

Information about the services and support you may need.

https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/social-care/social-care-england-children/support-available

Wherethecrawdadssingg · 02/09/2023 20:44

It sounds very, very hard OP. No judgement from me at all.

As others have said, the situation is dire. There are few choices available, and some of those which are would have me hung, drawn and quartered on this thread if I typed them out, but which I’m sure have crossed many an SEN parent’s mind.

I hope things get easier for you and that you get the support you and your family need.

x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:42

Op.the best advice I can give you coming from.a fellow parent of a child with complex disabilities is find your.people
It took.me years but i now have a lovely supportive group.of friends with children who.have similar needs who I can shout and scream at when everything gets to much who truly understand
No it doesn't help much practily, but they understand and have been there.

Sundaefraise · 02/09/2023 20:39

Dolores87 · 02/09/2023 18:32

Actually disgusted with all the comments telling you to put your child up for adoption or into foster care tbh. Wtf am I even reading.

Parenting is hard, and this kind of parenting is way harder. How you feel is valid but you can address these feelings. Are you having any therapy? I used to hate being a mother and therapy helped me. Could you hire a nanny for a couple of days a week? Which you can then dedicate to spending time with your 2 year old or taking much needed time for yourself? This would be an expense so you might have to juggle financially but knowing you have this time could really help you, even if it's just one day a week or two afternoons. I know things improved for my friend when her child started school. He goes to a specialist school and having 9-3 to herself every day has made a big difference to her wellbeing.

Don't be disgusted - I've worked in a special school and it definitely happens, more than you would think. People being disgusted and judgemental help no-one.

x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:36

WillowCraft · 02/09/2023 20:30

I know a couple who adopted a severely disabled child. Non verbal, couldn't walk or even sit unaided. They fostered initially and then adopted when she reached 15. They also had birth children and fostered other children with milder needs - mostly short term respite care. They adopted one of those too - autistic although not as severely affected as described by OP. So it does happen that parents give up these children and they find loving homes elsewhere.

Im.sure you do but there are not loads of families waiting around just to adopt severely disabled children
Most will.end up.in foster care at best

x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:34

Prinnny · 02/09/2023 20:27

But they have emergency foster carers? Should OP be in a car accident and end up in hospital for weeks they would have to find someone to care for the child, so surely that should be the case if the family is in crisis?

Also, any need for the eye roll really? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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There are loads of families struggling including mine yes if the op.was in a car accident they would have to.do something but she isn't so they won't or offer very little .

Summermeadowflowers · 02/09/2023 20:31

I think a lot of posters have been reading way too much Cathy Glass.

Summermeadowflowers · 02/09/2023 20:30

But she hasn’t been in a car accident Hmm and even if she had been, there is absolutely no way they’d go straight to emergency foster care.

WillowCraft · 02/09/2023 20:30

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:34

Disabled children with very complex needs tend not to.get adopted
Usually it would be long term foster care.

I know a couple who adopted a severely disabled child. Non verbal, couldn't walk or even sit unaided. They fostered initially and then adopted when she reached 15. They also had birth children and fostered other children with milder needs - mostly short term respite care. They adopted one of those too - autistic although not as severely affected as described by OP. So it does happen that parents give up these children and they find loving homes elsewhere.

Prinnny · 02/09/2023 20:27

x2boys · 02/09/2023 19:55

Yeah ,it doesn't work.like that 🙄
And you can scream and shout all.you want but social.services can't magic up.what they don't have .

But they have emergency foster carers? Should OP be in a car accident and end up in hospital for weeks they would have to find someone to care for the child, so surely that should be the case if the family is in crisis?

Also, any need for the eye roll really? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

nadine90 · 02/09/2023 20:27

OP I'm sorry if someone has said this as I couldn't read all the comments.
I think you need to spell out in no uncertain terms to your DH that you simply CANNOT manage on your own any more. He needs to find another job that means he's home more. Then you can divide and conquer, each get time with your daughter alone to do nice things or even just sit and relax. It may mean your finances are stretched but if they can be, I think your mental health needs to take priority for the time being. I'm sure you'd rather a few less luxuries (that you can't enjoy anyway) and some peace in your week and quality time with dd.
I'm sorry that things are so tough for you right now, I think you're amazing for all that you do. I found mine hard at that age without any additional needs.
My nephew is autistic and was non-verbal and hard work at 3. Things did get easier and school was certainly a huge weight off his parents shoulders.
I think that could be your light at the end of the tunnel for now. Things will never be easy but, they will probably get easier in time. Sending big hugs xxx

MushroomQueen · 02/09/2023 20:26

My sister an adult now at 35 in a care home has a very happy settled life. But I remember the sheer exhaustion of my parents particularly my mother- no support until she was older and insane levels of craziness growing up for me (I was the older child) but it did get easier as time went by - connecting with other parents and school helped a lot my mother keep her sanity- it's hard OP

x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:24

Bettyboobaloo · 02/09/2023 20:21

Considering adoption means putting your child first, as hard as it may be. Count yourself lucky that you never been in the oP's situation
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Have you not read my posts?
Im.the parent of a severely autistic non verbal.13 year old with incredibly complex needs so.I think.I probably no far more about the Op.,s position then you .

Bettyboobaloo · 02/09/2023 20:21

x2boys · 02/09/2023 17:44

Would you put your three year old up.for adoption?

Considering adoption means putting your child first, as hard as it may be. Count yourself lucky that you never been in the oP's situation
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Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 20:20

I don’t know for sure, but one of the special schools we recently visited had a residential part and when we got there they put it into perspective just how hard it actually is to get these spaces. Firstly the child has to need significant care overnight, I’m talking several hours of care. So I imagine for ASD/ learning difficulties you’d have to present with significant insomnia also. Even for the kids who met this criteria they were massively oversubscribed and therefore you’d be lucky to get one or two nights a month at most.

What viewing special schools put into perspective for me is that there is a HUGE range of child disability. Imagine it on a scale so like 1-10.
1-5 is going to be tough but manageable. With minor family adaptions and inconvenience and struggles in mainstream but doable.
5-8 is going to be TOUGH these kids have significant needs that make running a family life around them incredibly hard. Parents are burnt out, at least one will have become a full time ‘carer’ and these kids aren’t suitable for mainstream but aren’t severe enough to get the coveted places in special schools so you’re stuck In purgatory ‘too severe to cope but not severe enough to be guaranteed help’
8-10 are REALLY disabled I’m talking the kind of disabled that makes you cry in the car on the way home from having seen them at the special school you just viewed. They need so much care, they either have no prospects of improving or a limited life expectancy and literally need prettyuch 24/7 care just to keep them alive. These kids (rightly so) get the first spots available.

I would put my son currently around a 6 on a great day he would be a 4 on a bad day he would be a 8. It all evens out, but there is not enough care to go around so those in the 5-8 category probably aren’t going to get it.

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x2boys · 02/09/2023 20:19

Meadowdog · 02/09/2023 20:15

Does anyone on this thread know of a charity we could donate to that provides any practical help to people in the OP's situation? It's a horrible situation and I hate to sit by and do nothing.

It you want tomhelp.I would look.for.local.small.charities ,in my area there are a number that.offer discounted days out and subsidised activities for disabled children They are also.a good way of getting parents in a similar position and ime,are always in need of funding ,I personally would not bother with national charities

Sallyh87 · 02/09/2023 20:17

That sounds so hard @Thehonestbadger . You’re doing a great job and your son is lucky. Your feelings are only natural and nothing to be ashamed of.

SonicStars · 02/09/2023 20:17

Thanks for coming and updating. Sounds like you're doing so well; acknowledge that. Of course you can't give undivided attention to two children at the same time. Try to put less pressure on yourself.

Is he any good at choices? If you offer him two objects or foodstuffs will he choose one and take it from you? Or even just direct his gaze at one? If he can do that it opens lots of opportunities for communication as you can offer him choices in each hand (eventually even just verbally) and he can choose what he wants. But don't put pressure on yourself to do that now. He will be starting school soon (it may not feel soon but it is) and you can slip in picture cards or whatever they choose to try. It sounds like you're just the sort of parent the teachers will love. Proactive and trying everything as xonsistantly as possible.

Listen to your mum when she says you're strong and doing a good job. She's closest to the situation and so logic suggests she's likely to be correct.

Meadowdog · 02/09/2023 20:15

Does anyone on this thread know of a charity we could donate to that provides any practical help to people in the OP's situation? It's a horrible situation and I hate to sit by and do nothing.

Yamatoosogani · 02/09/2023 20:14

No.

Theyre serious and its a good suggestion too.

Let some devout oddball raise the kid

Hana89 · 02/09/2023 20:12

No advice. I just want to send you love and care OP. You sound like a truly amazing mother and an incredibly strong and brave person. I hope things eventually get easier for you all.

Nih · 02/09/2023 20:12

You are absolutely not being unreasonable.

I was where you are 3 years ago, all the way down to the small age gap between my DS and DD who came along shortly after. I remember feeling exactly as you do, worn down and hopeless about the future.

I wish I could tell you I found a the solution that made things easier at the time but truthfully I just muddled on as best I could, not always managing, but going with the motions.

I remember pleading with his paediatrician around the same time for clarification on how "severe" his autism was so I could get my head around what the future looked like for us, and how floored I felt when she said that he was "severely affected" and will likely always need a high level of care.

The shreiking, rigidity and inability to cope with doing any type of family activity, damaging property, aggression towards himself and us (and sadly sometimes DD) - was all off the charts.

Life is very different now DS is 6. He's unrecognisable to the child he was at 3. At 3 he was completely non verbal and we were coming to terms with the fact he may never talk. He doesn't stop talking now and is such a bright little boy. He had taught himself to read before he even spoke.

Because of his perceived limitations we hadn't even tried to teach him to read, instead we were just focusing on trying to help him learn to talk - so he taught himself and you could have knocked us down with a feather when he began reading sentences from books/magazines/his tablet.

The lack of understanding - that was something I was continually stressing to people who insisted he's going to make progress. I felt as though they just didn't get it. How could he progress when he doesn't understand things? It turns out he did. He just couldn't cope with the demands that understanding placed on him at that point.

I watched a documentary film called "the reason I jump" which was really eye opening. It featured a group of severely autistic teenagers who were non verbal and completely unable to talk. They were taught to use electronic communication devices and the way they were then able to hold conversations was amazing. Their grip on language and comprehension was in total contrast to how they were thought to be.

Sorry, I'm rambling now.

In short - things often do get better. A good special needs school was the best resource we could have hoped for and having that time away from eachother 5 days a week did wonders for our relationship. It's a pleasure to spend time with DS now. He still has his struggles, but nowhere near on the level he did before.

Him and DD have a wonderful relationship too. They are as thick as thieves.

Sending strength. Hang in there.