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To wish I didn’t have my 3yo son?

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Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 17:29

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

I love him; I do but I simply cannot pretend my life isn’t incredibly hard and shit because of him. He has ASD, is non verbal, has very little understanding of what’s going on around him or concept of danger. He suffers with PICA too so is constantly eating EVERYTHING and yes I mean everything.

He’s massive for his age; the size of a 6 year old and fights me tooth and nail over things like bum changes. I can’t go anywhere or do anything unless it’s exactly what he wants and there’s very very little engagement between us despite endless trying on my part. No one wants to look after him, my mum will occasionally as she knows how much I’m struggling but it’s hard for her I know that. Ive stuck him in nursery where he had a specialist 1:1 worker 5 days a week but it’s just a few hours and honestly the sound of him screeching and the insane anxiety over his constant unpredictable behaviour just ruin my life.

Worst of all, he has a 2yo sister, whose life is being so detrimentally impacted. I often just think to myself how amazing it would be to just have her; the freedom of things we could do; places we could go. All the ties and limits and restrictions lifted. I often feel like I might as well not have had my daughter because I never get to enjoy her and she’s always shafted off to family whilst I Labour on with DS in this weird kind of isolated purgatory, because family are willing to look after her.

we have all the appropriate support functions in place; all the experts and social services…etc. We’ve been on this path a long time now as it was clear from around 10 months that DS was not developing properly.
(I was already well into DD pregnancy by then).

Other than my mum family/friends don’t even want to spend more than 30 minutes in our company and I really feel that ‘oh god wtf is your life now? This is hideous’ feeling whenever they do.

I want to be one of those social media disability mums who are like intensely positive but I just don’t feel that way. The physical and emotional care he needs is just so depressing.

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Jellycatspyjamas · 03/09/2023 11:02

Children will be placed in foster care if their parents give the children up.

Do you honestly think you can just turn up at the social work office, leave your child and someone will foster them? The process of “giving up a child” involves a lot of assessment, professional involvement and multiple plans aimed at keeping the child in their family of birth. The process of assessment looks at parenting across the whole family so would include the OPs daughter, it’s not by any means an easy process, or indeed a given that at the end of that process the child would actually be accommodated. Removing a child from their birth family actively causes them harm, it’s an option of absolute last resort for good reason.

There isn’t some list of carers waiting for a child, fostering services are under incredible strain and honestly while some foster carers are amazing, some are very poor, so I wouldn’t assume the child would get better care than his mum can currently offer.

Better to fight and campaign for realistic support for parents - proper education options for a range of disabilities, not just for kids most severely affected, decent respite options that are easy to access, proper funding for parents who are full time carers. But these all cost money, aren’t politically popular and are complex to provide.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 10:57

notlucreziaborgia · 03/09/2023 10:48

Because of those attacking the suggestion, and saying it shouldn’t be made/considered an option. Again, you don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t mean people can’t acknowledge it.

But she's not considering it now so stop going on about it
Do you have any other constructive advice other than arguing with me ?

Meadowdog · 03/09/2023 10:53

notlucreziaborgia · 03/09/2023 10:48

Because of those attacking the suggestion, and saying it shouldn’t be made/considered an option. Again, you don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t mean people can’t acknowledge it.

Exactly! And the post suggesting she consider how appalled her family and friends would be at the very idea was especially shameful.

notlucreziaborgia · 03/09/2023 10:48

x2boys · 03/09/2023 10:36

The Op. Has stated that she will never say never about considering foster care in the future so why are people still.banging on about it?
It sounds like she needs to vent rather than continually being told to have her THREE adopted/ fostered

Because of those attacking the suggestion, and saying it shouldn’t be made/considered an option. Again, you don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t mean people can’t acknowledge it.

Positive41 · 03/09/2023 10:39

TomatoSandwiches · 02/09/2023 22:54

I was raped by a foster brother in one home and then sexually assaulted by a foster father whilst on holiday in front of the whole family.
I was a young teenager with a mouth, not afraid to make noise.

What do you think happens to the non verbal, mentally disabled, physically impaired CHILDREN you are suggesting we give up?

We don't want to give our children up, we've already fallen in love with them by the time their disabilities and difficulties appear.

We just need help and to not have to fight until we are nearing a nervous breakdown to get it.

If society is judged on how it treats the most vulnerable in society then judging by the attitudes I routinely see directed towards disabled children alone brings me to believe we all share an equal amount of shame.

Don't forget this, every single one of you is one infection or accident away from being completely reliant on the wider society around you.

Never forget that.

So sorry you experienced this. Unfortunately, your experience is not uncommon.

Bang on about SEN children not having a voice. They will be high risk for SA, physical abuse or worse with some foster carers.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 10:39

User353463 · 03/09/2023 10:27

Disclaimer: This post is in no way meant as a response to OP's problem but as an addition to the conversation from above regarding lack of care for SN parents.

Does anyone remember this story? It haunted me for a long time because the mother was a successful career woman and gave up everything to care for her son. The celebrity photographer father sounds like a right twat and abandoned them both early on. It also proves how the system can fail even the most financially and socially privileged people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9183707/Mother-40-admits-killing-10-year-old-autistic-son-denies-murder.html

This was during the pandemic when there was no help.available and most special.schools were closecalso.as I recall.she was psychotic
Most parents do not kill their disabled children no matter how desperate things are.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 10:36

The Op. Has stated that she will never say never about considering foster care in the future so why are people still.banging on about it?
It sounds like she needs to vent rather than continually being told to have her THREE adopted/ fostered

Positive41 · 03/09/2023 10:32

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 02/09/2023 18:52

@BrightGreenMoonBuggy children are placed in foster care if they are at risk of significant harm or abuse if they were to remain in their family home. There’s really no such thing as ‘putting your child in care’

For those suggesting adoption…when we adopted our DC there were many disabled children waiting to be adopted and in the past 3 years none of them had any prospective adopters express an interest in them. Again these children were removed from their birth families due to abuse or neglect NOT because their families couldn’t cope.

@Thehonestbadger i really feel for you. Our DC has some additional needs which have emerged since we adopted them and it’s a never ending, exhausting treadmill. I really hope you can access support for yourself. Are there any local groups for parents of kids with SEND on social media you could access, even if it’s just for a bit of emotional support?

This is incorrect.

Children will be placed in foster care if their parents give the children up.

User353463 · 03/09/2023 10:27

Disclaimer: This post is in no way meant as a response to OP's problem but as an addition to the conversation from above regarding lack of care for SN parents.

Does anyone remember this story? It haunted me for a long time because the mother was a successful career woman and gave up everything to care for her son. The celebrity photographer father sounds like a right twat and abandoned them both early on. It also proves how the system can fail even the most financially and socially privileged people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9183707/Mother-40-admits-killing-10-year-old-autistic-son-denies-murder.html

Mother, 40, admits suffocating autistic son, 10

Olga Freeman, 40, has pleaded not guilty to murder but guilty to the manslaughter of her disabled 10-year-old son, during a virtual hearing at the Old Bailey.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9183707/Mother-40-admits-killing-10-year-old-autistic-son-denies-murder.html

Summermeadowflowers · 03/09/2023 10:19

The Op explained in what I thought was a very clear post about special schools and about the level of need for residential care.

I really think if some posters on here spent some time with families with children with severe and complex needs they would be shocked at what families are expected to manage themselves with very limited care. To be honest, I’m surprised (in a positive way) that this little boy has a PA.

flapjackfairy · 03/09/2023 10:06

@Tryingtobehappytomorrow123
Thankyou for sharing your story and I am so glad you have found a good solution for everyone.

SoShallINever · 03/09/2023 10:00

I hear you and can't imagine how hard things are. I used to work in a school for children with ASD and would go home exhausted every day after just 7 hours. All the staff agreed that it must be incredibly hard for the families who were often awake all night. We had nothing but complete respect for them.
Sometimes my colleagues would do unofficial babysitting for the families as they already knew the child well. Maybe once your son starts school opportunities like this might open up and things become a bit more controllable.
Can your DS use any sign language or use PECS? I've seen some children come on rapidly when they learn some communication techniques.
Also are you a member of any parent support groups? Sometimes just being able to offload to others who understand is invaluable.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 09:58

cestlavielife · 03/09/2023 09:50

Sending child to residential school is not "giving up". Narrative has to change.
Seeking shared care foster care is not " giving up ".
It is hard to get yes, but first step is asking and being clear and yes being ready to hand over child for 24 hours or more at a time.

But its not a simple process either is it its long and arduous
Some poster ,s seem to.think you can just phone up.social.services and they will immediately provide you with lots of lovely respite or find a delightful residential school near enough for regular visits that children can start immediately at.

notlucreziaborgia · 03/09/2023 09:52

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:44

The OP has outright said adoption isn't something she would consider right now, so why are people still trying to convince her that giving up her 3 year old to care as if she was rehoming a dog is the best solution. It's so dehumanising of this child who is 3 and therefore still very young, who needs his mother, and who could come on leaps in time.

OP I just re read your last reply.
Two things that I thought that may not be relevant.

You spoke about Dad still being in the picture. Can you both work part time therefore allowing both of you to have a life outside of your care responsibilities? Splitting the load of it. That could help with your feelings maybe if it's doable.

The other thing is you talk about son needing 1 on 1 and this being hard with your daughter. Does your daughter go to childcare at all? If not could she? If she went at a different time to when your son goes to nursery it would allow you to reduce the times a bit where you are 1 person to the 2 kids and it would give you some alone time with DD and 1 on 1 time with your son.

I’m not seeing anyone telling OP what she should do, except the ones that want to declare that something that is an option shouldn’t even be mentioned. It’s fine if it’s something that you wouldn’t ever consider, no one said it had to be. You don’t get to make that decision for anyone else though.

Again: acknowledging it as an option, and one that no one should be shamed over, is not the same thing as telling someone what to do.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 09:52

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:44

The OP has outright said adoption isn't something she would consider right now, so why are people still trying to convince her that giving up her 3 year old to care as if she was rehoming a dog is the best solution. It's so dehumanising of this child who is 3 and therefore still very young, who needs his mother, and who could come on leaps in time.

OP I just re read your last reply.
Two things that I thought that may not be relevant.

You spoke about Dad still being in the picture. Can you both work part time therefore allowing both of you to have a life outside of your care responsibilities? Splitting the load of it. That could help with your feelings maybe if it's doable.

The other thing is you talk about son needing 1 on 1 and this being hard with your daughter. Does your daughter go to childcare at all? If not could she? If she went at a different time to when your son goes to nursery it would allow you to reduce the times a bit where you are 1 person to the 2 kids and it would give you some alone time with DD and 1 on 1 time with your son.

Tbh,once the Ops son starts school.she might find things get a bit easier in terms of she will.have a breather every weekday
Respiite is incredibly limited but currently my son gets a day a week in a special needs holiday club and in the school.holidsyx every other Saturday in the same club which helps our two nights a month haven't materialised yet!
And the routine of school.really helps and it keeps him.active and less destructive
Of course its always. difficult for siblings and my 16 year old has had it rough ,but we try and spend individual time with him and he knows how loved he is .

cestlavielife · 03/09/2023 09:50

Sending child to residential school is not "giving up". Narrative has to change.
Seeking shared care foster care is not " giving up ".
It is hard to get yes, but first step is asking and being clear and yes being ready to hand over child for 24 hours or more at a time.

Elfandwellbeing · 03/09/2023 09:46

Fostering is not the golden ticket some posters are making it out to be, children who are fostered feel rejected, unwanted, and unloved, the action it takes to put a child in foster care is harrowing. You don’t just ring social services and ask them to take a child. Social services step in when there is no other option. Can you imagine taking your child to school and not picking them up, when the school office phone you to remind you, you either refuse to collect or go AWOL. It is horrendous for any child to be suddenly be surrounded by unknown adults and then more unknown adults that take them home, then if those adults (foster carers) can’t cope, the child is moved on. And on. Please do not be fooled thinking this is an easier route for anyone. Especially your child, and what will you tell them when the ask you why you sent them away, and what will you tell your dd?
Yanbu to want a break, join all the charities you can and take the support, resources and respite there is. 3 years old is hard going.
Wishing you peace and best wishes.

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:44

The OP has outright said adoption isn't something she would consider right now, so why are people still trying to convince her that giving up her 3 year old to care as if she was rehoming a dog is the best solution. It's so dehumanising of this child who is 3 and therefore still very young, who needs his mother, and who could come on leaps in time.

OP I just re read your last reply.
Two things that I thought that may not be relevant.

You spoke about Dad still being in the picture. Can you both work part time therefore allowing both of you to have a life outside of your care responsibilities? Splitting the load of it. That could help with your feelings maybe if it's doable.

The other thing is you talk about son needing 1 on 1 and this being hard with your daughter. Does your daughter go to childcare at all? If not could she? If she went at a different time to when your son goes to nursery it would allow you to reduce the times a bit where you are 1 person to the 2 kids and it would give you some alone time with DD and 1 on 1 time with your son.

VintageTuppence · 03/09/2023 09:43

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

If you had 2 buttons:
1- he simply wouldn’t exist anymore
or 2 - he was free of the problems making life so hard, I think you would push the second button.

x2boys · 03/09/2023 09:42

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:39

This thread is so incredibly messed up tbh

They always are ,the Op.has said she would never say never about. Considering it in the future but right now it seems she just wants to vent yet people keep.on suggesting adoption/ fostering ,residential its depressing .

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:39

Summermeadowflowers · 03/09/2023 09:30

I agree @x2boys . It’s pretty disturbing and the thread has turned into ‘how to abandon your child’ rather than supporting the OP Hmm

This thread is so incredibly messed up tbh

Summermeadowflowers · 03/09/2023 09:39

The issue with that @Meadowdog is the OP didn’t indicate she was considering it in her posts. We now have twelve pages of arguing about it and the OP, who clearly needs support, is long forgotten.

For most people it is not an option. It tends to be a disabled child plus other factors - being a lone parent or suffering from illness yourself (mental or physical) or similar.

Being pragmatic here think about how your family and friends would react if you have your child up for adoption. It wouldn’t be like setting the clock back and going back to a former life. It would always be there.

Meadowdog · 03/09/2023 09:35

x2boys · 03/09/2023 09:27

And it strikes me as wrong for posters to jeep.suggesting foster or adoption as a first option you can Google all.you want but again most people do not put their disabled children into care ,yes some do but its the minority .

Oh I agree it's definitely the minority but yes as you've finally now admitted some do. And therefore it's an option and not something people should be shamed for suggesting or considering. No one has suggested it as a first option, or blithely, but as an option! Oh, and sorry if I disturbed your rigid absolutist stance with some facts!

Dolores87 · 03/09/2023 09:33

EarthSight · 03/09/2023 08:53

🙄Yes, but there is such a thing as 'the future' @Dolores87 . Babies grow up I'm afraid.

You have no idea how this child will act at 20 though because right now he is 3. You can't just put a 3 year old into care because you don't like how they may act in the future. You are just being alarmist and quite frankly completely ridiculous.