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To wish I didn’t have my 3yo son?

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Thehonestbadger · 02/09/2023 17:29

I’m aware it’s horrible but if someone gave me a button to press and he simply wouldn’t exist anymore I am confident I would, without so much as a second thought.

I love him; I do but I simply cannot pretend my life isn’t incredibly hard and shit because of him. He has ASD, is non verbal, has very little understanding of what’s going on around him or concept of danger. He suffers with PICA too so is constantly eating EVERYTHING and yes I mean everything.

He’s massive for his age; the size of a 6 year old and fights me tooth and nail over things like bum changes. I can’t go anywhere or do anything unless it’s exactly what he wants and there’s very very little engagement between us despite endless trying on my part. No one wants to look after him, my mum will occasionally as she knows how much I’m struggling but it’s hard for her I know that. Ive stuck him in nursery where he had a specialist 1:1 worker 5 days a week but it’s just a few hours and honestly the sound of him screeching and the insane anxiety over his constant unpredictable behaviour just ruin my life.

Worst of all, he has a 2yo sister, whose life is being so detrimentally impacted. I often just think to myself how amazing it would be to just have her; the freedom of things we could do; places we could go. All the ties and limits and restrictions lifted. I often feel like I might as well not have had my daughter because I never get to enjoy her and she’s always shafted off to family whilst I Labour on with DS in this weird kind of isolated purgatory, because family are willing to look after her.

we have all the appropriate support functions in place; all the experts and social services…etc. We’ve been on this path a long time now as it was clear from around 10 months that DS was not developing properly.
(I was already well into DD pregnancy by then).

Other than my mum family/friends don’t even want to spend more than 30 minutes in our company and I really feel that ‘oh god wtf is your life now? This is hideous’ feeling whenever they do.

I want to be one of those social media disability mums who are like intensely positive but I just don’t feel that way. The physical and emotional care he needs is just so depressing.

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speakout · 02/09/2023 18:45

OP I am sorry you are in this situation, it sounds pretty relentless.

You need support - you are much more than a mother- you are a carer too.

I would urge you to find a carer's support agency. I know there are lots all over the country.
I am a carer too, and my local carer's support organisation are phenomenal.

They have given me practical, emotion and financial advice, free or very low cost counselling to help deal with your struggles. They can offer and often pay for respite care, weekends away, have coffee mornings and run support groups with local carers in similar situations, a range of activities too- free massage, reflexology, yoga, meditation art and pottery sessions- all free.

These things may not change your situation, but when we are stronger in ourselves caring becomes a bit less overwhelming.

Make sure caring for yourself is important- even if just a few hours a week to give you breathing space.

Grapewrath · 02/09/2023 18:42

Adoption and foster care aren’t really options though are they? These kids are so difficult to place. Do you really think a social worker will just turn up and take the child if a parent asks. Let me tell you it really isn’t that fucking simple.
Those without disabled kids really have no idea. It’s all on us. All of it- nobody gives s as shit.

NDfamily · 02/09/2023 18:41

My autistic (very similar to your post) DC are primary aged now. We still have days like you describe. I still don't have that relentlessly positive neurodiversity affirming outlook most all the time. I won't pretend it gets much easier BUT your ability to cope and your son's independence will increase (even if it's* *just the smallest things (my youngest can now put a t-shirt on).

You are allowed to feel however you do about it all. I won't suggest respite etc because in my experience most parents will have maxed out any support they are able to. What I will ask is ... is there any time your son is calmer? Swimming? In nature? Anything? Capitalise on that. We used to hire private pools regularly - it calmed everything down.

flosset · 02/09/2023 18:41

I remember watching a Louis theroux documentary about autism. There was a family with two children with ASD, they were both non verbal and very challenging. The mum told Louis she loved her children but got no enjoyment from them. Thought it was very profound and understandable. Hugs OP x

Clefable · 02/09/2023 18:39

I just find it distasteful, or perhaps disingenuous, I suppose that adoption or foster care is apparently such an awful option and shouldn't be mentioned, but the same people are happy to write off the mental health and happiness of two other individuals in this story.

The thing about pushing the button and them disappearing/not existing is because in this magical scenario you don't have to face to the guilt that comes with feeling like you've failed your child or having to explain it to people, like you would with adoption or fostering. Shame is a very strong motivator (or demotivator). It's a great taboo, really, 'giving up' your child.

The option exists, and instead of shaming people for mentioning it, perhaps we should be supporting people to be aware of that choice or at least seek further information if it's something they actually want to do instead of suggesting it's disgusting and shaming them into keeping on with a miserable fucking life because 'what will people think?!'. I wouldn't presume to tell someone living OP's life what they should and shouldn't do, as I sit here in my own house with none of the issues she faces every day.

There are options which may be untenable to some and a solution for others. I am not going to cast judgement either way. The only judgement and shame we should direct is at the shitty state of healthcare in this country where there's no help or respite for people living lives like this.

PicaK · 02/09/2023 18:39

TomatoSandwiches · 02/09/2023 18:17

THERE IS NO FUCKING HELP!

Stop, please just fucking stop going on about residential care, this help, oh there must be something, no, no there is not, well there is but the amount and frequency and qualifying requirements are designed to be as ineffectual that it is NOT available to the majority of parents with children like the OPs.
It's not there if you are on a low income and trust me it's not even there if you have plenty of funds to throw at the issue, I've been looking for child care for my own son with SEN for over 2 years so I can spend time with my other two children in the holidays and weekends.

THERE IS NOTHING, NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING HELP.

So please shut the fuck up, am so sick of this nonsense people who have no clue and don't even want to know spouting insulting repetitive useless crap in the guise of help.

This. A million times this.

DaftWeeBun · 02/09/2023 18:37

This sounds like a living hell. I am a CAMHS clin psych and recently have put in child protection notifications, not because I'm worried about the parenting but because the parents are at breaking point. Honestly it seems like this is the only way to get help is to say you are in crisis. Social Work will pull out the stops if they think a child may have to go into care.
I'm not slagging off social workers at all, but sometimes it's justified to press the nuclear button. You need respite or at least interim foster care.

notlucreziaborgia · 02/09/2023 18:37

Dolores87 · 02/09/2023 18:32

Actually disgusted with all the comments telling you to put your child up for adoption or into foster care tbh. Wtf am I even reading.

Parenting is hard, and this kind of parenting is way harder. How you feel is valid but you can address these feelings. Are you having any therapy? I used to hate being a mother and therapy helped me. Could you hire a nanny for a couple of days a week? Which you can then dedicate to spending time with your 2 year old or taking much needed time for yourself? This would be an expense so you might have to juggle financially but knowing you have this time could really help you, even if it's just one day a week or two afternoons. I know things improved for my friend when her child started school. He goes to a specialist school and having 9-3 to herself every day has made a big difference to her wellbeing.

No one is telling OP to do that, we’re acknowledging it as an option. If it isn’t an option for OP that’s for her to decide, but there’s no shame if it is.

Grapewrath · 02/09/2023 18:36

The adoption suggestion’s are ridiculous.
OP is allowed to feel how she feels without going through the gruelling adoption process when she clearly loves her son. Also very fucking naive- if a loving parent is struggling with their ASD child then you can imagine how likely he would be to find a suitable and willing family. As if adoption is a viable option at any point

Summerhouse21 · 02/09/2023 18:36

I'm so sorry for what you're going through 😔as a previous poster asked, can Dad help? It shouldn't be you doing it all alone....

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:35

Radyward · 02/09/2023 18:33

Im sorry this thread has brought up a situation i winessed in a shop. This 4 yr old continually screamed for about 20 mins. His mum was so flustered so on edge it was horrible to witness. They live locally and i know her and her husband are now separated and have other kids too. The poor couple. There is no way on earth a family / marriage could cope with that little boy. Never slept at night. Omg i thank the lord i dont have that. As for help there is none.just plenty of admin staff filling forms and doing sweet F A. It ruins family lives and other nicer lives mums might have had without them. God forgive me

How do.you think.your comment helps?
Yes pots of marriages do.break.down but not all im.still.married as are a lot of people I know.

Terrribletwos · 02/09/2023 18:35

TomatoSandwiches · 02/09/2023 18:17

THERE IS NO FUCKING HELP!

Stop, please just fucking stop going on about residential care, this help, oh there must be something, no, no there is not, well there is but the amount and frequency and qualifying requirements are designed to be as ineffectual that it is NOT available to the majority of parents with children like the OPs.
It's not there if you are on a low income and trust me it's not even there if you have plenty of funds to throw at the issue, I've been looking for child care for my own son with SEN for over 2 years so I can spend time with my other two children in the holidays and weekends.

THERE IS NOTHING, NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING HELP.

So please shut the fuck up, am so sick of this nonsense people who have no clue and don't even want to know spouting insulting repetitive useless crap in the guise of help.

Exactly, there is no fucking help. It infuriates me when people say there is this and that help. There is none.

notlucreziaborgia · 02/09/2023 18:34

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:34

Disabled children with very complex needs tend not to.get adopted
Usually it would be long term foster care.

And for some that would indeed be an option.

Grapewrath · 02/09/2023 18:34

yanbu
All of the posts about respite and residential are well meaning but even with this in place there are still the very real feelings of living a life you didn’t ask for or plan and the feelings of disappointment and despair that your path is now changed forever- our SEN children don’t always grow up and leave home so the years ahead can be daunting
As an ASD parent myself I can only show you complete solidarity and tell you that some days are better than others.

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:34

notlucreziaborgia · 02/09/2023 18:31

Presumably ones that wouldn’t consider adoption an option. If it isn’t something you’d ever consider then yes, of course you’d have to cope, but for some people that would be an option.

Disabled children with very complex needs tend not to.get adopted
Usually it would be long term foster care.

Radyward · 02/09/2023 18:33

Im sorry this thread has brought up a situation i winessed in a shop. This 4 yr old continually screamed for about 20 mins. His mum was so flustered so on edge it was horrible to witness. They live locally and i know her and her husband are now separated and have other kids too. The poor couple. There is no way on earth a family / marriage could cope with that little boy. Never slept at night. Omg i thank the lord i dont have that. As for help there is none.just plenty of admin staff filling forms and doing sweet F A. It ruins family lives and other nicer lives mums might have had without them. God forgive me

Mojoj · 02/09/2023 18:33

TomatoSandwiches · 02/09/2023 18:17

THERE IS NO FUCKING HELP!

Stop, please just fucking stop going on about residential care, this help, oh there must be something, no, no there is not, well there is but the amount and frequency and qualifying requirements are designed to be as ineffectual that it is NOT available to the majority of parents with children like the OPs.
It's not there if you are on a low income and trust me it's not even there if you have plenty of funds to throw at the issue, I've been looking for child care for my own son with SEN for over 2 years so I can spend time with my other two children in the holidays and weekends.

THERE IS NOTHING, NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING HELP.

So please shut the fuck up, am so sick of this nonsense people who have no clue and don't even want to know spouting insulting repetitive useless crap in the guise of help.

This. I could feel your frustration screaming out of your post. No one, unless they are living with a child with SEN, will ever understand how relentlessly brutal it can be. There is very litte help available - definitely no breakfast clubs or after school so little to no opportunity to work anything more than a limited number of hours per week. No one to babysit because they cannot cope with your child, no holiday clubs etc. It is relentless. To the OP, I would say, start shouting as loud as you can that you are not coping. Tell SW that, if they do not offer some respite, you are placing your child into their care. You absolutely need to mean it, though. SW only deliver if they believe that you mean what you say. The harsh reality is they will offer respite but only if you convince them you are placing your child in their care if you don't get respite. Sending love and solidarity. It DOES get better but start shouting!!

MysteryBelle · 02/09/2023 18:32

No, you’re not horrible. You’re overwhelmed and you are physically, mentally, and emotionally drained. No one person can care for a loved one with high needs 24/7 without collapsing eventually, with no real help or real breaks.

Your situation is exactly what our tax dollars should be going to, to help you cope, to provide specially trained helpers and nurses and teachers and guides. Any loved one who needs a lot of help day to day, whether a child or elderly or anyone with illness or disability, physical or mental, needs to be prioritized so their families don’t collapse from all the caretaking and so the one with high needs can live the best life possible.

We know you love your child dearly and more than anything in the world. The fact is you’re weary and worn out and need help.

Dolores87 · 02/09/2023 18:32

Actually disgusted with all the comments telling you to put your child up for adoption or into foster care tbh. Wtf am I even reading.

Parenting is hard, and this kind of parenting is way harder. How you feel is valid but you can address these feelings. Are you having any therapy? I used to hate being a mother and therapy helped me. Could you hire a nanny for a couple of days a week? Which you can then dedicate to spending time with your 2 year old or taking much needed time for yourself? This would be an expense so you might have to juggle financially but knowing you have this time could really help you, even if it's just one day a week or two afternoons. I know things improved for my friend when her child started school. He goes to a specialist school and having 9-3 to herself every day has made a big difference to her wellbeing.

Lifeomars · 02/09/2023 18:31

You are not horrible, all you are doing is being honest about a very difficult situation and I wish I could think of something, anything that would make it better. X

Mariposista · 02/09/2023 18:31

Poor poor you OP. You have been dealt an absolutely shite hand in the card game of parenting. It sounds horrendous for you and your poor daughter.

notlucreziaborgia · 02/09/2023 18:31

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:24

And who do you imagine are the sort of people who.can cope??
Most of us have no choice but to.bloody cope as there is no other option.
And it's then end of a,long six weeks holidays and im.barely coping right now but I have to .

Presumably ones that wouldn’t consider adoption an option. If it isn’t something you’d ever consider then yes, of course you’d have to cope, but for some people that would be an option.

Ihonestlydontgetit · 02/09/2023 18:30

x2boys · 02/09/2023 18:24

And who do you imagine are the sort of people who.can cope??
Most of us have no choice but to.bloody cope as there is no other option.
And it's then end of a,long six weeks holidays and im.barely coping right now but I have to .

I have no idea how anyone copes with this. I know people have to cope and have no choice.

User4732 · 02/09/2023 18:29

x2boys · 02/09/2023 17:44

Would you put your three year old up.for adoption?

It's a fair suggestion based on the initial post. But it's hard imagining someone volunteering to take this incredibly difficult situation on.

SlightlyJaded · 02/09/2023 18:29

Sounds really hard OP

Random temporary suggestion that isn't a solution...

Have you met any other parents with similar struggles though your care/pathway etc. is there a local group or something? My thinking was that if you could make one friend with similar challenges who sort of understands the behaviour and might be worn down by it but isn't afraid of it.... you would immediately less alone but also, you might be able to come to some weekly arrangement where you take each others DC for a day a week? Hard as it would be - it probably wouldn't be THAT much worse than just one and the payoff would be a whole day a week to spend on yourself on with your DD.

Could that work?