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DH won’t let me go out during ‘work hours’

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rippedjeansniceshoes · 29/08/2023 17:26

Hi name changed as I don’t know what to make of this.
DH owns his own company and works from our home office. I am a stay at home mum with 3 young DC.
Having 3 children under 5 means I am hands-on and very busy with the children day-day.
My husband works a few hours a day, Mon-Fri. He is very lucky as his business takes care of itself at this point. He makes a few phone calls, sends a few emails and he’s done. Once sometimes twice a week he will spend the whole day doing a hobby that he loves. He does this mainly with his business partner (very good friend) and with business associates. After the hobby they chat and have a few drinks. He said this is classed as his work as it is during the Mon-Fri work hours.

A friend of mine (also with 3 young DC) asked me if I was free for lunch this Thursday afternoon as her siblings were looking after her DC and she had some child-free time! Knowing that my DH is very quiet work-wise of an afternoon (and had no golf planned) I said yes! I was so excited to get out without DC and honestly didn’t think it would be an issue for DH to look after them for 2 hours of an afternoon.

Just by me asking it has created WW3 😥 I’ve cancelled the child-free plans with my friend and I am just so upset.

DH said no as it is during his work hours. I don’t understand. I explained to him that after a long summer at home with the kids I really needed a couple of hours with my friend! His response is that I need to get it though my ‘thick skull’ that Mon-Fri are his work hours and he can’t look after the kids during that time. I explained he has lots of child-free time during the week for golf and I have none. He said golf doesn’t count as it is ‘work’ for him.

Every time I ask for child-free time this happens. Although I did go to the cinema with some mum-friends in June without the kids and he was ok (eventually) with that (DC asleep, evening showing) I drove.

Is it me? Am I wrong here?

OP posts:
lto2019 · 29/08/2023 18:04

I read a lot of replies on here to things and people seem quick to suggest leaving the other person as a way of resolving things. In this case - I really feel you deserve better and unless he is going to be willing and able to change - I think leaving the situation is probably going to be the only way to do it.

I would start by getting some advice - getting support and having a plan of what to do and when you are going to do it. Then, when you put it into practise - he will be able to get it into his 'thick head' you mean it.

He is supposed to be your husband and partner.

MummyJ36 · 29/08/2023 18:04

OP only you know how long you’re willing to put up with this crap for. Imagine this was your daughter in years to come, what would you tell her to do?

pictoosh · 29/08/2023 18:03

I wouldn't be at all grateful. I'd expect to be regarded and treated as an adult, an equal and someone to show respect to. He'd hate being married to me.

Clymene · 29/08/2023 18:02

Icannoteven · 29/08/2023 17:52

@Clymene and @User13579367337 I understood that as him networking/entertaining business associates rather than doing his hobby - which could be reasonable I think. The football thing is completely unreasonable though. And the fact that he is ok with the OP going out with the kids but not without at other times is a red flag. At the least, a conversation needs to be had about equal access to free time.

But the OP didn't book it during his golf time? She booked a lunch at a time she knew he wasn't playing golf and he told her she needed to get it through her thick skull he wasn't looking after his children.

What do you understand that as? Because I understand it meaning he's an abusive controlling arsehole

rippedjeansniceshoes · 29/08/2023 18:01

Sorry I am reading all of your responses and trying to reply.
My husbands business honestly takes care of itself. My friends often say they 'wish they had my DH's life'
No I don't have any access to family money, he pays me an 'allowance' every month.
I have Mum friends.
I have family, well my Mum, she echo's a lot of what you say but she isn't in a position to help me as such, just a listening ear.

I am currently upstairs in the bedroom as he has finished work for the day (came out of his office/man-cave)
He sometimes gives me an hour to unwind after being Mum all day with the kids... before the bedtime routine starts.

He says this hour alone in the bedroom is my 'child free time' and I should be grateful as not many DH's do this after work? I said I would like to get out of the house and 'alone time' upstairs isn't the same?

I'm so confused.

I can't really go out in an evening. I get the children to sleep and they really 'play up' when I am not here (DHs words, not mine)

Thank you for everyone's kind words so far. After my 'alone time' upstairs I will try and have a chat with him... again...

OP posts:
pictoosh · 29/08/2023 18:01

Well gosh, isn't he just the biggest arsehole going?
Utterly selfish. How revolting.

SunRainStorm · 29/08/2023 18:01

Abusive prick.

Get back into work. Put your children in childcare.

Divorce him and take half.

You deserve at least EOW to yourself.

Skodacool · 29/08/2023 18:01

His ‘thick skull’ comment says it all. How dare he!

MummyJ36 · 29/08/2023 18:00

Tell him you need him to pay for one’s days childcare for all the kids and to get it through his “thick skull” that you need some time for yourself in order to not have a mental breakdown and/or selfishly consider divorcing him.

BeggyMitchell · 29/08/2023 17:59

WestwardHo1 · 29/08/2023 17:55

Jesus Christ. Are men getting worse? The longer I'm on MN and the more I read of abusive bullshit like this the more I hate them.

No OP. YANBU. He is. I'm m sorry you're married to such a cunt.

Was about to post something similar. Wtf's going on, have we regressed?

towriteyoumustlive · 29/08/2023 17:59

I would suggest paying for childcare one day a week so you can also have some time to yourself!

Why did you have kids with this tw*t???

LakieLady · 29/08/2023 17:58

He's a controlling piece of shit. Leave the bastard and get a good lawyer.

Prelapsarianhag · 29/08/2023 17:58

Men like this do not deserve to have wives, kick the fucker out.

mrlistersgelfbride · 29/08/2023 17:56

Just offering solidarity OP. I thought you were writing about my partner until I checked the number of kids.
For what it's worth he's a cunt. It is definitely not you, and I hope you get your lunch with your friend Flowers

enchantedsquirrelwood · 29/08/2023 17:56

MiraculousLadybird · 29/08/2023 17:37

Get it through your thick skull?

Nope. Nope. Nope. Regardless of the work hours bullshittery do not tolerate being spoken to like that.

Yes this.

If he was in an employed role and had to work in the office he wouldn't be able to look after your kids, so you'd have to accept that WFH meant no childcare while you are supposed to be working in that scenario.

But he works for himself, so that doesn't apply.

His language and attitude sound horrific.

Go back to work OP. Don't rely on this man.

Peony654 · 29/08/2023 17:55

And his work aside, why are you 'asking' to do things in the evening. You tell him, and go out.

Duckingella · 29/08/2023 17:55

DH doesn't mind me going out with the DC. It's just when I want to go alone the arguments start

*Let me rephrase that for you

"My DH thinks that the children are my sole responsibility and that he shouldn't have to take care of than alone ever"*

WestwardHo1 · 29/08/2023 17:55

Jesus Christ. Are men getting worse? The longer I'm on MN and the more I read of abusive bullshit like this the more I hate them.

No OP. YANBU. He is. I'm m sorry you're married to such a cunt.

Peony654 · 29/08/2023 17:55

That's abuse and control, how dare he speak to you like that. Please consider going back to work yourself, so you are prepared to leave him if he doesn't seriously change his behaviour. Being a SAHM doesn't mean you are solely responsible 24/7.

Clefable · 29/08/2023 17:54

Separate issues. I wouldn't expect my husband on v short notice to be able to watch the kids for two hours during a work day, unless I absolutely knew he had nothing on, same as he wouldn't leave the kids with me for two hours during my work shift when he's on child duty. I'd be surprised if a successful company could keep going on some phone calls and emails a week so I imagine there is a bit more to it than that; even very established businesses don't really run themselves to that degree.

But he talked to you like you were a piece of shit on his shoe and it sounds like he's a prick in general who doesn't do anywhere near his share of looking after the kids so you can have your own life outside the working day. Personally I'd stick the kids into childcare, tell him to pay for it and have a day or two to myself during the week instead!

dudsville · 29/08/2023 17:53

Op, this isn't a loving, caring, equal partnership. This isn't a relationship in which you have each other's backs, support what each one brings to the running of the family. It doesn't sound like he really likes you much, I'm so sorry.

Onesipmore · 29/08/2023 17:52

OP, I think tbh I would just tell him that you are going. Tell him you are telling him and that you aren't asking his permission. Then tell him you will be going out child free once a week with your friends. He is seriously taking the piss.

Bookist · 29/08/2023 17:52

MsMarch · 29/08/2023 17:45

what about evenings? Are you "allowed" to go meet a friend for dinner on a Tuesday after he's "home" from work? I take your point re not being able to do child-free things on the one day a weekend as your friends aren't free then, but in my experience, most women, especially SAHMs, get their "away from the kids" time in the evenings.

I will always remember fondly my friend's DH who, after I'd asked if she wanted to take up a last minute cancellation for an event, came home from work and got home about 2 minutes before I arrived to pick her up - he was still in his suit and tie, on the couch giving the 4 month old a bottle while reading a story to the toddler! He couldn't get home earlier, but he was 100% prepared to take over 100% from the minute he walked in the door.

My DH ran his own business but would often meet me in town straight from his office to take baby DD home to bed (so I could have a child free evening with best friend who lived in town). He'd be all suited and booted, with laptop bag slung over one shoulder and baby DD cuddled in his arms. He was perfectly fine with this because, you know, he loved his daughter and loved me.

Icannoteven · 29/08/2023 17:52

@Clymene and @User13579367337 I understood that as him networking/entertaining business associates rather than doing his hobby - which could be reasonable I think. The football thing is completely unreasonable though. And the fact that he is ok with the OP going out with the kids but not without at other times is a red flag. At the least, a conversation needs to be had about equal access to free time.

LuckySantangelo35 · 29/08/2023 17:51

Dump him Op
You deserve better

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