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...to think teachers DO get paid over the holidays?

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MasterBeth · 29/08/2023 14:35

It doesn't make sense to me.

Some people say teachers don't get paid over the holidays. They are paid, they say, for 40 weeks, but their money is aggregated over 52 weeks and paid monthly.

What does that even mean? How is it (practically) any different to being paid (less per week) for 52 weeks?

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InOffice · 29/08/2023 14:50

Yes they (we) do. They get the full published salary paid over 12 months. Other school staff aren't paid for the holidays (unless they work them) and get c. 80% of the salary scale. paid over 12 months.

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MasterBeth · 29/08/2023 14:49

muchalover · 29/08/2023 14:49

Many teachers work over "holidays", and parents evenings and extra curriculum stuff isn't overtime or TOIL.

Most teachers are expected to mark and prep at weekends. Many pass ofsted because they contribute from their own pay packet for materials required by ofsted to pass.

Yes. I agree. None of this addresses the question, though.

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muchalover · 29/08/2023 14:49

Many teachers work over "holidays", and parents evenings and extra curriculum stuff isn't overtime or TOIL.

Most teachers are expected to mark and prep at weekends. Many pass ofsted because they contribute from their own pay packet for materials required by ofsted to pass.

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MasterBeth · 29/08/2023 14:47

exLtEveDallas · 29/08/2023 14:43

They don't get paid "for" the holidays. Not 'over' the holidays. And it's a swizz, because all the teachers I know, Secondary and Primary, work during their unpaid holidays marking work completed and getting stuff ready for the next term/half term.

You make an excellent semantic point. They do indeed get paid over the holidays. That is unquestionable, because they get 12 equal monthly payments.

So, what I really should have asked is AIBU to think teachers DO get paid for the holidays?

In what practical sense do they not get paid for the holidays? Teachers are not paid hourly.

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OhBeAFineGuyKissMe · 29/08/2023 14:46

I think it is an important definition when people talk about making the school year longer as you would need to increase teacher pay, rather than just shorten the holidays.

Apart from that it is semantics.

Karwomannghia · 29/08/2023 14:45

It’s the same salary every month; pay rises run from beginning of September to the end of August.

exLtEveDallas · 29/08/2023 14:43

They don't get paid "for" the holidays. Not 'over' the holidays. And it's a swizz, because all the teachers I know, Secondary and Primary, work during their unpaid holidays marking work completed and getting stuff ready for the next term/half term.

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MasterBeth · 29/08/2023 14:42

I also couldn't do it, appreciate how hard teachers work and acknowledge that their real incomes have fallen significantly in the last decade and more. In fact, it's the conversation around teachers' pay that has provoked my question.

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Gerrataere · 29/08/2023 14:39

Bumble84 · 29/08/2023 14:38

I agree with you, would be different for f they had months with no pay at all. It’s semantics though. I still think they don’t get paid enough overall for the job they do. I couldn’t do it.

Yes this, the pay doesn’t reflect the work and adding in summer holidays as a ‘break’ is ridiculous because most teachers work a full year even if they’re not physically at the school.

Bumble84 · 29/08/2023 14:38

I agree with you, would be different for f they had months with no pay at all. It’s semantics though. I still think they don’t get paid enough overall for the job they do. I couldn’t do it.

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