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to think that boarding houses could come back into fashion (not boarding schools)

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NeedToChangeName · 29/08/2023 10:59

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-66591376

This news report got me thinking. When my Dad was a student, he rented a bedroom in someone's house, alongside other students. Quite simple accommodation without facilities that people might expect nowadays, but it was affordable and convenient. And extra income for the landlady

I wonder if this arrangement might become popular again, with (1) students / young professionals struggling to find suitable accommodation and (2) home owners struggling to pay mortgages

Keira sitting on a purple sofa with a big green plant in the background and a brown wooden unit. She has blonde hair and has her nose and ears pierced. She has a ring on a necklace around her neck and has a purple jumper on.

University accommodation: 'I got into uni, but couldn't find anywhere to live'

A charity warns the number of new purpose-built rooms is tumbling, despite student numbers growing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-66591376

OP posts:
FoodFann · 29/08/2023 12:28

NeedToChangeName · 29/08/2023 11:06

@Handsnotwands When I think of a lodger, I imagine a young person buying a flat and having a flatmate or two of around their own age and hopefully enjoying each other's company. I agree that's common

When I think of a traditional boarding house, I tend to think of an older person with several rooms that are rented out to individuals ie purely a financial arrangement with no expectation of socialising together

No OP, a lodger is when you rent a room in someone else’s house. It is v common. Have a look at Spareroom.com and you’ll find thousands of people looking for lodgers.

BungalowBuyer · 29/08/2023 12:16

Board and lodgings is a place to stay (lodgings) with meals provided (board)

So a Lodger would usually cook their own meal while a boarder would have meals provided.

For those who remember Rising Damp, I'd describe that as a lodging house.

Films where a man lived with a landlady who cooked his meals and probably washed his clothes for an extra fee would be a boarding house, strictly no guests of the opposite sex etc.

MrsMarzetti · 29/08/2023 12:16

Comefromaway · 29/08/2023 11:34

Your link is all places in the US. I don't think that type of place has ever really existed in the UK. A boarding house here would be much, much smaller, like the type you still get in some seaside towns.

What you show above is more akin to a catered halls of residence.

They were common here to back in the first half of the last century. One in our town by docks burned down and many men lost their life.

NellyBarney · 29/08/2023 12:15

The government gives people a tax break to rent a room in their house. Up to 7250 pounds income is tax free per year. Many people make use of that.

Tomoinson123 · 29/08/2023 12:15

My Great-Gran ran a boarding house in the 70s. It was all older, single men and she cooked their meals and cleaned.

She gave it up after she left my Nan in charge while she went home to Ireland for a visit and 3 of them died (all of natural causes) but still..

Sgtmajormummy · 29/08/2023 12:14

The 1950s, George Orwell, idea of boarding houses was for single men who had a job but weren’t from the area. With draconian war widow landladies.

The depressing lifestyle of one bath a week, meals on rationing often heavy on boiled cabbage and strict rules on who could visit probably drove them to marry early!

Nowadays I think some people who need help with their mortgage offer language students a single or twin room with bed, breakfast and evening meal. Or University “digs” without food but use of kitchen and bathroom.

NellyBarney · 29/08/2023 12:12

I just think nowadays a boarding arrangement is more expensive than lodging, so wouldn't help students. I payed less for lodging than boarding, and for boarding had to share a room.

Iateallthechocolate · 29/08/2023 12:11

Abbeyfield have houses like this for the elderly. They have to be in good health, there's no personal care, just bed and board.

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/08/2023 12:11

Candleabra · 29/08/2023 11:47

I know what you mean. My dad lived in a boarding house after leaving home until he got married. He had a room in a house, but an evening meal was cooked by the landlady and eaten with the other boarders in the dining room.

Which is why it was a boarding house - you got bed AND board, ie meals.

NellyBarney · 29/08/2023 12:08

Many families in tourist areas do this to 'board' foreign students. The first time I came to the UK I stayed for 4 weeks with a family in Eastbourne, sharing a room with another foreign student. They cooked breakfast and dinner for us, and we were allowed to watch TV in their lounge. It was a tiny 3 bed Barrat box, they had 2 children themselves. There were hundreds of foreign students in Eastborn, all boarding with local families. Later I moved to Oxford and lodged with a family, i.e. they didn't provide food for me or cleaned my room. But there were many pupils in Oxford who boarded with people, and if you live in Oxford or Brighton/Eastborn area, you get regularly leafleted whether you want to house 2 or more foreign pupils and cook for them, do their laundry etc.

BadSkiingMum · 29/08/2023 12:04

As property is so expensive I can't really see it coming back again except in the sense of families taking in a lodger.

Surely boarding houses arose out of a fairly unique set of social and economic circumstances? For much of the twentieth century property was relatively cheap with lots of large, unmodernised Victorian houses - many of which have now been converted into flats. Plus the impact of the two world wars e.g. a war-widow might decide to rent out rooms rather than struggling to get into the workplace with non-existent childcare.

Comefromaway · 29/08/2023 12:00

This type of larger property just doesn't exist any more. The OP said in their first post that it would help "home owners struggling to pay their mortgage". That's why I think most of us initially though they were talking about a single lodger not an actual boarding house.

I think what has happened in a lot of cases is that in tourist areas these larger properties have become holiday flats or b & B's and in non tourist areas they have been split up into flats.

No-one is going to invest in such a large property and go through all the admin (HMO/fire regs etc etc) as it just would not be profitable.

ru53 · 29/08/2023 11:58

I lodged with a family when I first moved to London (this is within the last 10 years.) There were 2 or 3 young professionals renting single bedrooms and sharing the family bathroom & kitchen. Is that what you’re talking about? I would call that taking lodgers not a boarding house. A boarding house implies meals provided I think which would be odd in this day & age.

We all cooked our own meals in the family kitchen separately due to work/social commitments. Occasionally we would all eat together.

I imagine it’s less common these days as not many people have 3 or 4 spare bedrooms to rent out. Particularly in large cities with big student populations.

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:55

Yes Golga that's like my parents describe and precisely those reasons!

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:53

It's also quite different from the more modern lodging with a family too.

GolgafrinchamB · 29/08/2023 11:53

@NeedToChangeName you have misunderstood what boarding houses and lodgers are.

A lodger rents a room in someone’s house, and generally cooks and cleans for themself.

A boarding house is where communal meals are provided, and bedrooms may be shared or singles. My dad lived in a boarding house in the 50s.
They were also popular in seaside towns as a way of making money, particularly with people widowed by the war who needed to find income streams.

A house/flat share is where a bunch of people rent a home with personal bedrooms and communal spaces. In general, the owner doesn’t usually live there but it’s possible.

Shinyandnew1 · 29/08/2023 11:53

When my Dad was a student, he rented a bedroom in someone's house, alongside other students. Quite simple accommodation without facilities that people might expect nowadays, but it was affordable and convenient. And extra income for the landlady

When my FiL was at university, he lived in a couple’s house-and described it as living ‘in digs’. This was in the 50s, before large halls of residence must have been built in many universities. He paid them for the room and sat and ate with them for morning/evening meal times. The woman didn’t work and had time to cook/clean up after the meals.

Your solution for families struggling with the mortgage is an interesting one. Even if they had a spare room large enough to rent out, I wonder how many busy struggling families would want to cook/clear up after someone else’s meals or have them cooking their meals in the kitchen separately at the same time as them. Many houses today aren’t big enough for this, I don’t think.

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:52

Shiny- they were actually called boarding houses though!

So my dad lived in one for a good while (no idea if it was 6 months or a couple of years though) and it was like pp mentioned with a lady in charge of the house and evening meal.

My mum's family would have stayed 2 weeks in the summer but it was definitely and old fashioned boarding house not. Like a modern BandB!!

I dont know what happened to them. My mum has often talked about how different times were then.

sleepyscientist · 29/08/2023 11:47

The problem is HMO licensing in major university cites. We have looked at buying a house to turn it into a HMO in a student area, sadly we pulled out as despite 90% of the surrounding houses being HMOs the feeling was we wouldn't get permission

Comefromaway · 29/08/2023 11:47

I do have some experience in this area. Dd attended a specialist college from the age of 16-19 where most of the students lodged with a family. Dd lived with a couple and 2 other students. Many of her friends at similar colleges did similar. Also many in the theatre industry on tour stay in similar places. More recently when her shared house in her work city broke down she went to lodge with a couple.

Her college has now almost totally abandoned this type of accommodation in favour of private halls of residences. It is really hard to find, non student lodgers are much preferred. Touring theatre people also struggle to find places to stay.

Candleabra · 29/08/2023 11:47

I know what you mean. My dad lived in a boarding house after leaving home until he got married. He had a room in a house, but an evening meal was cooked by the landlady and eaten with the other boarders in the dining room.

MissHarrietBede · 29/08/2023 11:47

GalileoHumpkins · 29/08/2023 11:40

A boarding house is traditionally rented out as a bedroom with shared bathroom facilities, meals are usually provided and the tenants may have a communal room in which to take tea and sit by the window and read.

Boarding houses like this were often mentioned in the 1940s and 50s books I used to love. The landlady was usually quite a character!

Shinyandnew1 · 29/08/2023 11:46

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:43

My parents have talked about boarding houses.

My mum has said when they used to go to seaside as a family they'd stay in a boarding house.

My dad stayed in one for a while when he just started work.

It sounds like there was a matronly woman who had strict rules about time you got back. But who also made you breakfast. I might be imagining it but I think there were rules about having a lady friend over too.

I’d say that’s more temporary guest accommodation, rather than somewhere to live longer term.

EhrlicheFrau · 29/08/2023 11:46

Lodgers tended to live in a room in someone's private house or a in a 'bedsit' set up, where the landlord may or may not have also lived in the same building. Bedsits used to be quite common in the UK, but I don't think they are so prevalent now - essentially a bit like student accommodation (own bedroom come sitting room, perhaps with a small cooker/sink, and shared bathroom/larger kitchen facility) but anyone could rent one. I am not sure if some of the legislation around safety maybe put and end to some bedsit set ups, perhaps in some cases for good reason. I feel sorry for students who get accepted at University and then struggle to find somewhere to live - the thing is students/parents complain about a lack of accommodation but often locals in the city/town also complain that 'there is only/too much student accommodation' and 'nothing for non-students'. Bedsit/basic student accommodation set ups would actually work for both students and those on a limited income/starting out/starting again/actually not wanting to live in a whole house alone/other groups I cannot think of just now.

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:44

The way they described it was quite different to a premier inn or lodging in the scene we've had lodgers before.

Big house with several rooms used for this.

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