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Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

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MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 21:17

I'm inclined to think we've been scammed. Am I being unreasonable?

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Bunnycat101 · 16/08/2023 07:01

You have to separate the two. She was undoubtedly a grifter but I don’t think it’s fair to start attacking the nhs charities that are very clear on their parameters for charitable spend. It is often those extras that make a massive different to the environment for patients and staff. I suspect patient care would actually be significantly better if staff had free tea and coffee and a guaranteed sandwich (and time to eat it) for lunch.

lovewoola · 16/08/2023 07:00

Weren't they already rich/well off?

An 80k salary for a charity boss is pretty normal.

Was it opportunistic? lots of this stuff is.

DoctorMartin · 16/08/2023 07:00

I'm pretty sure that at the beginning it was only reported that CT was raising money 'for the NHS' it was only much later, when the runaway train of fundraising became uncontrollable and millions were pouring in that it was announced that the charity to benefit would be NHS Together.

So you can see why some people were confused and thought their donation would go to actually funding the work of the NHS through the pandemic.

The goalposts did change slightly, but only because NHS Together was the only suitable national charity deemed large enough in terms of structure and governance to handle such an insane amount of money.

LynetteScavo · 16/08/2023 06:59

I didn't donate to this charity, as I always thought there was something "off" about the whole thing.

If i had, I would have less issue with the money going on staff well-being than equipment, as the government should be using taxes appropriately. Personally I'd rather pay slightly higher taxes than have donate to someone doing a sponsored walk.

lastseasonstop · 16/08/2023 06:59

I donated and don’t regret it.

The daughter though has relished the whole thing and has played a game but it’s coming back to bite. If any wrong doing then that needs fully investigated and she should be dealt with accordingly.

I see this as 2 separate things. Tom and the walk that raised millions and the daughter who set up the charity after. The later needs investigated.

BygoneDays · 16/08/2023 06:58

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 16/08/2023 01:13

If there was a genuine need, I'm pretty sure the nurses would have preferred the equipment than the chocolates. If this had have been a 'crisis' it wouldn't have been a question. It clearly wasn't though, because covid is less deadly than flu. And the Government knew this all along.

Ah, you are a conspiracy nut job. Now all the vitriol makes sense.

bookish83 · 16/08/2023 06:57

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 16/08/2023 00:52

It's not hard t buy tampons or cake. The well-being of NHS staff is on the NHS. A lot of us thought we were contributing to life-saving equipment - not a hug. Where's the hard impact of the money we donated? There is none.

OP you are embarrassing yourself now.

MrsDBaddiel · 16/08/2023 06:56

The whole thing stank from the beginning. Who made the decision to inform the media that an old man was marching around his garden with a zimmer frame? Why were the media even interested? Someone in the family clearly had an agenda to be famous by proxy and pushed hard for this nonsense to become “a thing”.

LynetteScavo · 16/08/2023 06:54

daffodilandtulip · 16/08/2023 06:29

I never understood why anyone donated money for someone walking around their garden tbh.

No one would have donated money for someone walking around their council flat. It showed privilege from the start.

This.

BrookeDavisQueen · 16/08/2023 06:53

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 22:22

Food and wellbeing for staff? That's questionable for a start. That isn't what people thought they were donating to. I'd like to see how that money was spent.

Never again will I give to a 'charity'. Charities are for fools.

I know this comment is early on in the thread but food and wellbeing for staff is questionable?! Do you not know how horrific working on a COVID ward was during the early days? Providing food was the very least we could do.

And if you don't think wellbeing of staff matters - well no wonder people are leaving healthcare in droves.

All the medical equipment, beds, ventilators, safety equipment are all useless without the staff.

Namechanger1002 · 16/08/2023 06:50

Tara24 · 16/08/2023 06:34

From her website 🤣 what a load of BS

BE UNWAVERING IN YOUR PURSUIT OF PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT AND HAPPINESS, BE BOLD, AUTHENTIC AND REMARKABLE

How far up your own arse do you need to be to have a website with that ?!?

🤣🤣

MaggieFS · 16/08/2023 06:46

Jeepers OP. I was with you at the start, as per my previous post, but you've lost me now. You're attitude to NHS staff caused by your own ignorance of what the money was going to stinks. It's not that hard to understand how the most important component of the NHS is staff and at a time if such crisis ANYTHING which which made the awfulness of the time fractionally more bearable would have been money well spent.

Yellowlegobrick · 16/08/2023 06:46

Total grifter.

Probably thinks the fact that any money at all making it to good causes makes it "ok" for her to take a huge salary that's not commensurate with any actual work on her part.

camelfinger · 16/08/2023 06:45

There are lots of threads on here moaning about how rubbish the NHS is. I think that many people aren’t happy with the idea of a tax rise to be able to give the NHS the funds it needs to succeed. They would prefer to just have a huge whip round to buy spanking new equipment, as that makes them feel better about themselves. And the ‘angels and heroes’ working for the NHS can be pacified with a clap and an Easter egg.

I would prefer that the NHS, including drinks and decent facilities for staff, were funded by taxation. Then we wouldn’t need all this frippery.

Tara24 · 16/08/2023 06:34

From her website 🤣 what a load of BS

BE UNWAVERING IN YOUR PURSUIT OF PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT AND HAPPINESS, BE BOLD, AUTHENTIC AND REMARKABLE

How far up your own arse do you need to be to have a website with that ?!?

Baconking · 16/08/2023 06:30

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 16/08/2023 00:17

I wouldn't blame anyone for taking anything offered - fair play. But tea rooms and massages? Any data on the impact yet? More lives saved with rested staff? Waste of money.

I just think that when we were raising money for the 'NHS', it was for the institution- not the individuals. Maybe I'm wrong.

Did you research the charity you were donating to or just jump on the bandwagon to sponsor an old man walking up & down his garden.

NHS charities together are quite clear on how the spend donations
https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/our-impact/how-we-support-the-nhs/

How We Support The NHS - NHS Charities Together

Thanks to generous donations we have allocated grants to our 238 member charities, supporting over 600 projects covering the length and breadth of the UK.

https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/our-impact/how-we-support-the-nhs

daffodilandtulip · 16/08/2023 06:29

I never understood why anyone donated money for someone walking around their garden tbh.

No one would have donated money for someone walking around their council flat. It showed privilege from the start.

User15387500 · 16/08/2023 06:23

I didn't donate, I didn't like her from the start

Toddlerteaplease · 16/08/2023 06:20

Namechanger1002 · 15/08/2023 22:55

I don't think he was a nice old man. I don't think he came across very well in his interviews. So shoot me.

I thought the same. Just because someone is old. Doesn't mean they are nice by default.

panko · 16/08/2023 06:20

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 23:43

Going back to the original campaign- when I was giving money I thought I was donating towards equipment to save people's lives -not mars bars and tea rooms for staff. Not that they don't deserve them - absolutely do, but we were told we were in an absolute crisis. Cadbury and coffee isn't a crisis.

We live and learn.

The staff are part of "the equipment"

Wri · 16/08/2023 06:16

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Withdrawn at OP's request

panko · 16/08/2023 06:12

Oatycookies · 16/08/2023 05:18

I agree. People were okay to give them that measly sham of a clap on a Thursday, which I always refused to take part in, but how dare they receive anything actually meaningful to enhance their working lives. You couldn’t make it up.

Yeah I thought the whole idea was it was meant to be instead of clapping - to actually help them out. Especially when they were at risk of dying!

It looks like some of the money went on screens so people could say good bye too.

Donotshushme · 16/08/2023 06:10

Blossomtoes · 15/08/2023 22:47

No, you’re right. The money’s gone to the right place. The issue is the mendacity of Hannah IG. I imagine her dad would be ashamed of her, he was a proper old school gentleman.

Oh, you knew him then?

panko · 16/08/2023 06:09

Sounds good to me.

It's the rest of it that's iffy. I'm sure it will come out in the wash soon