Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

The Charity Commission stepped in over 2 years ago.

The Foundation was set up in June 2020, and the Commission was first involved in March 2021 - mostly stemming from the amount she was planning to take as her wage. Her starting point was £100,000 (initially only 60k for 3 days a week, then the FT option)

For context, yes, some charity CEOs do receive that, but in charities where income is £30-40m. The Captain Tom Moore Foundation reported an income of £1.1m. The Commission questioned the benchmarking done to reach that figure. She was permitted £85,000 for a max of 9 months, which is still an incredibly inflated amount for the income (remembering that the £38m is entirely separate)

Then, they looked again in 2022 about the consultancy fees and third-party payments to their own companies - marketing and brand services, I believe. This was found to be legitimate start-up costs.

Drugs maybe? Isn't it meth or heroin or something where they use spoons? I'm not surprised if the stress of the issue within healthcare (especially when you can't make a decent cuppa) has driven some poor NHS workers to it.

Can't see Cliff Richard being the wild party boy type somehow 😀😁

I am of the (admittedly not professional) opinion that Piers Morgan is somewhat unhinged.

There is no solution to an ageing population that’s going to happen. It can’t be stopped
However, we have to reconsider how much support we can offer. We privatise the NHS because we cannot maintain its current form. It was introduced at a time very much like the old age pension when life expectancy was precisely 68, and now it’s not. It’s unsustainable, so we the people have to pay more in or they get less out. Not suggesting eugenics or a mass cull although Boris did basically do one by the back door.

Yes agree there is a staffing but crisis.if they dealt with the abuse of sick and the handsomely paid managers managed this they wouldn't have a staffing crisis. The poor buggers that are doing three peoples jobs are desperately looking elsewhere. Some people abused working in the NHS during covid some worked there arses off, some didn't step over the doorway, worked from home the whole time but still wanted the glory and discounts people were offering.

It’s not about entitlement to live to 80

Science and progression means that we are

just like science and medicine is cutting the rate of infant mortality - what do you say about that

what is your proposed solution to an ageing population then?

Until 1971 our life expectancy was precisely 68 for a man. I totally appreciate that I will feel differently on my 79th birthday, but we are not entitled to live to 80.

I'd rather the money went towards Mars bars for NHS staff than some chancer's swimming pool!
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“That’s what’s meant to happen”?! Jeez you are quite something

i don’t think our average life expectancy is to be less than 70

The worst thing about this is it is true! Where do they go!?

Yes our trust charity received the funds that went towards the new unit - including family accommodation and a kitchen for families of neonatal babies to use. I hope that satisfies the OP.

I’m in agreement that the foundation is dodgy as f, however

I think this story demonstrates totally what this pandemic was about - privileged people getting even richer off the back of the poor. She's just in the club.

There were 2 separate charity pots.

His - all £38million of which went to various NHS trusts via NHS Charities Together

The foundation his daughter set up - which is under continued investigation

If the NHS is getting showered with stuff from it all - can we have some fucking teaspoons in staff kitchen cutlery drawers please?

Signed,
Anyone who has ever tried to make a brew in any NHS building.

People are already living to 110

I really don’t think so - if life expectancy increases to 110 we’ll be a super race!

And for you. I’ve got absolutely no issue with you taking it for a limited amount of time. But let’s not try and fall ourselves. There are plenty that have not paid in for 44 years and will take out for more than 44 years.

When my agreement with the government is I pay taxes and they spend the money on neonatal units.

My agreement was that I paid NI for 44 years and I got a pension. 🤷‍♀️

They both died before they received a penny from the state, which actually is what’s meant to happen if we are being honest.

Anyway, back to the matter in hand.

personally, I think the charitable donation should’ve gone towards free vending machines or whatever the medics required to get through the day both during Covid and now because it’s just as much of a shit show. I very much resent neonatal units having to rely on charity. When my agreement with the government is I pay taxes and they spend the money on neonatal units.

Dodgy from the start... hated the whole thing, not surprised about any of this...

Ok, she’s a bit dodgy but she’s hardly kicking orphans to death is she?
She deserves the full force of the law IF she has done anything illegal but I don’t think she deserves such hate and vitriol

The Charity commission should have stepped in long before now.

Well.I assume he wss as he wss quite happy to do Laps a round his rather substantial.garden and make a single with Michael Ball(?).

Gosh that's a blast from the past I think Russ abbot worked with led Dennis too.or am.I misremebering?