Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

I didn’t like her from the start. She was just too pleased with herself and absolutely loved being in the spotlight. Every time I switched on the telly, there she was grinning inanely! I did nt say anything at the time as I thought I might get sent to the tower.

If anyone didn’t know the money wasn’t going direct to the NHS then I suggest you research a bit more before donating. It was made very clear the money was for NHS charities, not the NHS. And boy they covered the story a lot. So listen more if you’re that concerned

And banged pans on doorsteps and judged people if they left the house more than once a day in lockdown but then rushed to "eat out to help out ' because Rishi told them to...

Agree 100%

Agree with the above 100%.

Only a certain type fell for it , e.g those weirdos who make a massive show of wearing a poppy, get over excited about William and Katherine’s kids like they are the second coming and record Lorraine to watch later.

Many of us called it for being a grift very early on but were slated on here for being un-British or wanting to destroy the NHS.

I believe Captain Tom was also in on it. Old people can be every bit as crafty as young people. A grifter doesn’t just become smiley, doddery and start wearing a cardigan with Wherthers Orginals in the pocket as soon as they collect their pension and bus pass. The way the media carried on was embarrassing.

I'm a bit conflicted on this... I'd hate to think the whole thing was a set-up and the daughter got dear old dad to do his walking up and down specifically to go to the media about it and turn it into the huge thing it became... I want to think that it was genuinely his doing, and he wanted to do his little bit to help, but it then got sort of hijacked by the daughter.

Whichever scenario, I think she's a total grifter. She saw an opportunity, whether it was right from the get go or whether it was when the whole thing began to snowball. The spa and the crazy salary for a bit of part time 'work' are so classless and grabby.

The whole thing was bollocks from start to finish. The media hype, his family using it as a launching pad to bring in money and wasn't the daughter the one who awarded herself a huge amount of money for a three day week.

Only those that donated to the charitable foundation set up after Tom died surely?

Scam artist and Britain fell for it.

Apparently she was on TalkTV with Piers Morgan.

Attempting to justify her hanging on to £800k from book sales - it was what he wanted, apparently!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67086802

I am on holiday. Was there a documentary about the family last night? Did anyone watch?

I think it was made clear that the money was to provide facilities to make NHS staff lives a bit more comfortable, not for direct NHS funding.

@MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather it was very clear that core NHS equipment is funded through the taxpayer. The money raised for NHS Charities Together was to support NHS staff and users in other ways. It's your responsibility to look at what you're donating money for.

It was very clear at the time it was NHS Charities Together and helping to support staff wellbeing, because I remember that being reported by a major news outlet (BBC).

My unit got 2 high quality ultrasound scanning machines (costing tens of thousands) for our clinic from the Tom Moore fund.

I also disagree about Deborah James. She rose to the challenge of her illness and beyond. She already had a platform and used it amazingly well. Of course someone no-one knew and wasn't pretty and glamorous wouldn't have got coverage, but that's most people in TV. I think she also banded together with others (her two radio co-hosts) and created solidarity as well as awareness. I don't think many people could be handed that, even with her existing privilege, and made it what she did.

I don't put her at all in the same category.

Yes I do

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52757533

Does anyone remember this guy? I have never heard of him until today. I don't recall seeing him in the media at all.

I guess too that Speedo Mick won't get the same coverage.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/charity-fundraiser-speedo-mick-scales-28976045

Hmmm, I don't think it's reason to say that about Deborah James, but I'm not sure I agree. And I have very much agreed about Tom Moore, I loathe media do-good bandwagons, I prefer to think for myself and make my own choices about charity donations.

On the one hand I agree that if she had been less polished she wouldn't have got the profile. I'm not sure she should have been made a dame. I think it's a shame she couldn't show the grim side of cancer alongside the glamorous.

But in the other hand, I do think she raised important conversations and much as the media hype was over blown I don't think the background is really comparable.

Agree but again it will be tantamount to treason to say this.

Absolute scammer out for what she can get.

Do you all remember her standing and waving to the crowds at Wimbledon? Made me want to vomit.

Oh yes, the "public sector white" paper that is actually yellowish-grey.

This will be unpopular, but I feel the same way about this whole thing as I diabolo Deborah James. Their privilege made them the palatable face of things we'd find unsavoury in people with less privilege- death, ageing, cancer... They were lauded by the media because they had the education, privilege, connections, and whiteness to enable them to make the most of their situations. Let's not pretend that a Tom Moore on a council estate or a less polished and pretty Deborah James would have had similar opportunities -more likely they would have been ignored at best or hauled over the very worst of the "Great" British press.

And mugs some colleagues were obsessed with having their own mug ..