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Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

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MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 21:17

I'm inclined to think we've been scammed. Am I being unreasonable?

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howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 15/08/2023 23:27

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 22:10

Ouch. Well - I was a mug. I won't be in future.

How much did you donate? I think I paid .99p to download some god awful song with Michael ball. I'm pretty sure the money raised went to nhs charities, not capt Tom or any of his family.

Smartiepants79 · 15/08/2023 23:23

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 22:06

@Smartiepants79 Not when I've been conned out of money - no. I'd like some answers.

?? Which of my posts are you replying to?
You don’t think the actual facts are important?
Allowing and listening to hyperbole and tabloid half truths does more harm.
If people are going to comment then they should at least have their facts straight.

Packageholiday · 15/08/2023 23:18

@Crapsummer2023 he could have been on the grift not doing all ta waking

SunWorshipping · 15/08/2023 23:18

I called out this whole thing from the start though and wasn't sucked in like everyone else (although I think most people actually lost the plot around this time generally). I didn't donate and rolled my eyes everytime bbc breakfast rolled him and his gobby daughter out. It all just felt "off". Even my husband said I was awful for saying what I thought at the time. I always said, if this was a poor old bloke living in a council house doing laps of his tiny front yard no one would want to know, it was all gift wrapped in so much privilege, people lapped it up, the bbc dined out on it for months! The daughter was always there which was just weird, it was very clear she was the driving force and not at all surprising there are now questions over where all this money actually went. All very fishy.

I saw it was top story on the BBC homepage again earlier, I just showed it to my husband and laughed. I hate being right 😆.

WinterBerry7 · 15/08/2023 23:17

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 23:09

@DivingForLove Well - I'm looking at how much of a percentage my contributions are actually going to the people I've donated to, and how I got suckered into this. I'm not giving my money to these people anymore - I'm only giving locally now.

Thanks to everyone who said I wasn't an idiot for giving. I only did it with good intentions. It was a difficult time - I wasn't well but I wanted to help. Yes, it seems foolish now, but it didn't then.

As for Hannah - she's tarnished her family name alright. Hope it was worth it.

You really weren’t an idiot. And definitely not the only person choosing to donate!

Just as an aside to help in future - donate directly to the charity of your choice rather than through any giving platform if you can possibly help it, as they also take a fee. Meaning less of your money reaches the actual intended destination.

But please don’t stop donating to charities full stop! They’re not all bad!

Also one further tip - any Go Fund Me or crowdfunding page really ring alarm bells for me and I would try and avoid them if at all possible. Unless you are 100% certain or don’t mind losing the money. I’ve seen far too many where the money is paid to the creators bank account and then never ends up at its destination.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 15/08/2023 23:15

Blossomtoes · 15/08/2023 22:47

No, you’re right. The money’s gone to the right place. The issue is the mendacity of Hannah IG. I imagine her dad would be ashamed of her, he was a proper old school gentleman.

I don't agree on the gentleman part. The daughter's values have to have come from somewhere. And when he talked about his much-younger wife - I never felt there was much compassion there. I am not saying he would have approved of Sir Tom Part 2 (after his death) but I dont think he is the squeaky clean as portrayed.

MaggieFS · 15/08/2023 23:13

I never understood the hype but just thought each to their own, and especially during Covid.

It just reminded me of the gushing bandwagon everyone jumped on after Princess Diana died. All that money wasted on flowers outside Kensington Palace. This felt the same. So weird for such an old chap to be doing it and people paying him. And then he got an honour for it. For essentially doing one thing. My mum has spent her whole life doing more volunteering than that. Thank goodness those initial funds did go to the NHS.

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 15/08/2023 23:12

Blunderwoman!!!!!

I had a 3 hour video cassette tape - VHS (although the family originally went Betamax 🙄)

So 3 hours of the Indie, Rock and Dance charts taped of The Chart Show - Saturday morning? Anyone?.

Family member taped over with fucking Russ Abbott 😭😭

Oh and absolute villain. Smug with it too. Nasty.
I'd rather spend 3 days in a hole being subjected to Russ Abbott on loop rather than see her profiteering from genuinely kind people.

I didn't donate. I'm not genuinely kind. I'm a miserable cynic.

😁

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 23:09

@DivingForLove Well - I'm looking at how much of a percentage my contributions are actually going to the people I've donated to, and how I got suckered into this. I'm not giving my money to these people anymore - I'm only giving locally now.

Thanks to everyone who said I wasn't an idiot for giving. I only did it with good intentions. It was a difficult time - I wasn't well but I wanted to help. Yes, it seems foolish now, but it didn't then.

As for Hannah - she's tarnished her family name alright. Hope it was worth it.

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JocelynBurnell · 15/08/2023 23:07

SoosanCarter · 15/08/2023 22:54

I think it was last year, at Wimbledon she was in the Royal Box. Also there was a scientist who was very significant in developing the COVID vaccine. The commentator announced them to the crowd. Hannah stood up, made an exaggerated bow and waved. The scientist just looked embarrassed when she was announced. Says it all, really.

Very contrasting reactions, indeed.

The scientist was Sarah Gilbert, Professorship of Vaccinology at the University of Oxford, who was one of the scientists behind the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID vaccine

shadypines · 15/08/2023 23:05

For me it's just a bit off calling on your average Joe to donate to charity when you yourself live in a big fuck off house. So I'm not surprised by any of this.
I didn't like the way she always sat with him during interviews as if he was a child.
I didn't like the way it was ok for Michael Ball to meet Capt. T when people couldn't attend their own families funerals.
It all got too big and showy, if you want to do something for a good cause, just do it, quietly without a big media circus.

Reverseparkingonly · 15/08/2023 23:05

Have had, that should said.

Reverseparkingonly · 15/08/2023 23:05

@snurtifier absolutely. Then she would hyhad nothing to Moan about.

Whats happening about that thieving witch Boris’ Scottish mate?

WinterBerry7 · 15/08/2023 23:00

Boomboom22 · 15/08/2023 22:57

Surely his daughters must be quite old themselves so pr9bably not best placed to manage 30 mill depending on previous career experience.

They weren’t managing £30 million. They never had access to it.

Hannah I-M was managing a completely separate charity, which she did badly and is now being found out.

SoosanCarter · 15/08/2023 23:00

SoosanCarter · 15/08/2023 22:54

I think it was last year, at Wimbledon she was in the Royal Box. Also there was a scientist who was very significant in developing the COVID vaccine. The commentator announced them to the crowd. Hannah stood up, made an exaggerated bow and waved. The scientist just looked embarrassed when she was announced. Says it all, really.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/28/wimbledon-crowd-pay-tribute-to-captain-sir-tom-moore-and-nhs-heroes-14839415/

🤮

Wimbledon crowd give Captain Tom Moore's daughter & NHS heroes standing ovation

The All England Club will be paying tribute throughout the tournament.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/28/wimbledon-crowd-pay-tribute-to-captain-sir-tom-moore-and-nhs-heroes-14839415/

Abra1t · 15/08/2023 22:58

The Captain Tom Foundation is a completely separate organisation that was established after Captain Tom raised funds for our Covid-19 Urgent Appeal, and the Charity Commission has made clear that the £38 million he raised for NHS Charities Together is not under investigation.
In total our Covid-19 Urgent Appeal raised over £160 million thanks to generous donations from thousands of supporters like you. This money has been distributed across the network of NHS charities to reach every NHS Trust and Health Board in the UK – funding thousands of projects providing vital mental health support for NHS staff, training for emergency volunteers, equipment and support for patients, and community partnership programmes to prevent ill health and reduce pressure on NHS services.
…
We remain incredibly grateful to Captain Tom for his personal efforts to support the NHS, and how he inspired countless others to do the same.

Record breaking NHS Covid appeal helped 1.6 million people in first phase, with lasting legacy for thousands of projects - NHS Charities Together

Our new report1 is for the first time highlighting the impact of the British public’s record-breaking fundraising during the pandemic – which ultimately generated £160 million to support NHS staff, patients and communities in the wake of Covid-19. A re...

https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/record-breaking-nhs-covid-appeal-helped-1-6-million-people-in-first-phase-with-lasting-legacy-for-thousands-of-projects/

Boomboom22 · 15/08/2023 22:57

Surely his daughters must be quite old themselves so pr9bably not best placed to manage 30 mill depending on previous career experience.

DivingForLove · 15/08/2023 22:56

@MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather you’re going to use this case as an excuse to never give to charity again??? Bloody hell. That’s an excuse if ever I heard one 🙄.

There are loads of brilliant charities that do incredible work! Just choose more wisely next time.

Namechanger1002 · 15/08/2023 22:55

I don't think he was a nice old man. I don't think he came across very well in his interviews. So shoot me.

Boomboom22 · 15/08/2023 22:55

Prometheus · 15/08/2023 22:50

Exactly this. People seem to think that all
peope over the age of 70 are angels. There are exactly the same proportion of criminals, rapists, tax dodgers, thieves in that age group as there are in any younger age group.

True, as he was over 100 and in the war it was not socially acceptable to voice anything other than admiration.

Do you remember the kid who camped in his garden for a year or something? Similar in some ways. Don't think he was grifting though, bit off though going on TV etc.

Floralnomad · 15/08/2023 22:55

I think they are all decidedly dodgy ,however I didn’t donate so can’t get that worked up about it . I hate these types of fundraisers , it just feels to me that it’s people trying to get themselves their 15 minutes of fame .

Blossomtoes · 15/08/2023 22:55

snurtifier · 15/08/2023 22:54

Her problem is she wasn't ambitious enough. If only she'd made millions selling faulty PPE to the government at inflated prices, she could have made it to the House of Lords.

😂

WinterBerry7 · 15/08/2023 22:55

Highdaysandholidays1 · 15/08/2023 22:46

@WinterBerry7 thanks for answering my question. So people shouldn't feel bad if they donated initially, I don't think, even if in hindsight the actions of the daughter are questionable, that initial money did make its way into the NHS charitable arm.

Anyone who donated originally, that money absolutely went to the NHS.

Where people should be questioning their donations is if they donated to the Captain Tom Foundaton which was set up off the back of the initial fundraising, a totally separate operation. Which has already been investigated/is under investigation. This is the charity she demanded a high salary for (and was refused by the regulators) as her salary demands didn’t match the income/expenditure of the charity. As someone mentioned unthread - someone running a charity taking in excess of £30 million would rightly be on a high salary, probably higher than 80k.

Isittimeformynapyet · 15/08/2023 22:55

ParkheadParadise · 15/08/2023 22:17

I thought Russ Abbott died years ago 🤷‍♀️

So did I! Just looked him up - 75 years old apparently.

Blossomtoes · 15/08/2023 22:54

The cancer wing was paid for by public subscription @Boomboom22. Do you always have such difficulty conceding that you might just be wrong?