Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

It was always for NHS charities to benefit staff. It’s amazing how quickly we’ve forgotten how under the cosh they were. Such short memories. It nearly broke my stepdaughter - isolated in a Travelodge room between 13 hour shifts in ITU in full PPE, every patient leaving in a body bag, huge weals in her face where her mask dug in. She ended up with PTSD and I understand some of the money was spent on counselling.

I was a NHS HR Director during Covid. Don’t you dare to assume what those staff went through (and are still going through).

The NHS is made up of individuals, many of whom could leave and walk into higher paid, lower stress roles tomorrow. You’ll regret it if they do.

If the odd coffee and cake morning or massage keeps them in the job, it’s worth every single penny.

I’m a bit confused what people donating to the NHS charities would be funding?

Of courses it’s not going to be spent on services or employing more nurses. That’s what the government funds.

It’s for all the non essential bits and pieces that enhance the wellbeing of patients and staff, that aren’t funded by the government. It could be a room refurb, furniture and soft furnishings, refreshments, sanitary/ comfort items, therapy that is not available through services, toys/ supplies for patients. iPads or tech for teens etc

Agreed. I am really careful where I donate

Me too, I felt really uneasy; it smacked of exploitation and I was sick of seeing the saccharine publicity.
By the end the sight of anything to do with them made my flesh crawl 😵‍💫

She was always a grifter, and I think he knew all about it. But those who said so at the time were ripped to shreds.

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but she wasn't doing anything too different to what many charities do. I used to work in the sector and it was a real eye opener and very much changed my attitude to charities in general. I now really only give to charities I know make a practical difference in peoples lives. For many though setting up and running a charity is a bit of a gravy train.

@MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather these are from NHS charity funds, no idea if the money came from Tom Moore. There are lots of NHS charities.

I’ve not personally benefited from these things as I’m not clinical staff and this is only what I’m aware of. There is probably lots of other stuff too. It all goes on clinical staff plus things for patients eg. Books, toys, Garden makeover that sort of thing.

Again I’m talking about the NHS charities- don’t know specifically what Tom Moore money funded.

Villain (if wrongdoing is proven).

As demonstrated by this thread I think a lot of people are confused about the money raised by Sir Tom, which did go to the NHS and money raised by the Foundation his daughter created after his death.

In creating the Foundation she capitalised on her father's "brand" and has allegedly personally profited from doing so in the form of payments for attending events as CEO of the Foundation, that were paid to a totally different company owned by her/her husband, requesting a totally unrealistic salary plus the whole bloody spa that was meant to be an office for the foundation.

These actions, if correct have not just sullied her reputation but that of her father as well.

People will forget (or already have) that his goal was to raise money for the NHS, which he achieved and only connect him with events that happened after he died and I think that's pretty sad (and pretty damn exploitative of the memory of someone you claim to have loved).

Additionally, because of that (and again evidenced by this thread) it will put people off donating to charity in the future possibly to the tune of far more than Sir Tom raised, so another pretty shit legacy that is far removed from her father's intentions.

I think she’s taken full advantage of the situation. My biggest problem is that charities are allowed to be run this way.

Look at Harry and Meghan, setting up a “charity” in a tax haven state of Delaware which has hardly any oversight and only 5% has to actually be used for charitable causes.

Re: tea and coffee…. There is no tea and coffee in our clinics for staff. No milk, nada. There’s not even any where for staff to sit in some locations, to eat something.

Parking is paid for, in one location staff have to walk a good 15 minutes after paying for the privilege to park. There is no reliable public transport.

These really basic things make a massive difference to the workforce because the environment is so shockingly bad in many places in the NHS. Not everywhere I know.

We are facing an unprecedented staffing crisis in the NHS - I can’t emphasise enough how important it is for us to retain the workforce we have by treating them better. The charity donations from Tom Moore have supported lots of wellbeing initiatives.

To be fair if my job had animal therapy it would incentivise me to stay!

Sounds like a politician more than a villain.
And at the end of the day, didnt capt Tom -who was great laugh and distraction, just walked his estate daily...

And I find it interesting she a villain who profits off her dad...but didn't he raise her?
If u don't like her ethics, what makes u think she didn't learn it off her dad??

I honestly lost it with her when she took Sir Tom on holiday and he caught covid and died.

She's a chancer for sure. Why aren't they throwing the book at her?

Our local trust uses NHS charity monies for sanitary products in staff toilets, a wellbeing visit to different staff hubs with massages and free drinks for staff, animal based wellbeing sessions, art therapy … that sort of thing.

It might feel like a waste of money but actually staff morale is really low, staff are operating a skeleton workforce while facing unprecedented levels of demand.

A lot of staff are traumatised by what they have been through, it’s so unsafe across many areas of the NHS that it affects staff members mental health … colleagues are leaving in droves and those that are left are baring the burden of keeping people safe when they know they can’t.

Staff morale and therefore staff retainment is vitally important. You can’t run any fancy equipment with no staff.
The NHS is in crisis- mainly a staffing crisis.

I don’t feel scammed because I had a screaming gut instinct sometimes wasn’t right from the very second the news began reporting Captain Tom’s walking. Something always seemed off and dodgy. At the time I was told I was being unkind about a nice old man. I know nothing has come out about him doing something wrong but it always gave me bad vibes.

I always said, if this was a poor old bloke living in a council house doing laps of his tiny front yard no one would want to know

Oh yes I remember a guy being told off by a police officer for standing in his own garden near his own front door not long into the first lockdown. Social housing estate

As previous posters have said, money given to sponsor Sir Tom went to NHS charities together and has made a difference. The issue is the charity subsequently set up in his name and run (until recently) by his daughter, Hannah. No-one who sponsored Sir Tom was scammed

It pisses me off that Captain Tom is the oldest artist to score a Number 1 single in UK chart history with that truly awful collaboration with Michael Ball. So undeserving.

🤣🤣🤣 genuinely made me LOL, thank you.
And yes, total scammers.