Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

409 replies

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 15/08/2023 21:17

I'm inclined to think we've been scammed. Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
miniegg3 · 16/08/2023 06:08

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 15/08/2023 21:29

Horrendous profiteer. Building a spa and trying to get round planning permission by pretending it’s for the company. Taking the old boy on a long haul holiday during a pandemic where he caught COVID off Russ Abbott and ended up in GRAVE.

That's what got me.. taking him on a long haul holiday where he ended up dying from covid. I couldn't live with myself

SoSad44 · 16/08/2023 06:08

The money raised on Justgiving went to NHS charities together. Thr justgiving page is still up. If you donated there, you can see their impact report here OP https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/our-impact/covid-appeal-report/

for everyone who donated to the Captain Tom Moore charity, you probably funded a pool house and the family. Sorry

Covid Appeal Report - NHS Charities Together

https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/our-impact/covid-appeal-report/

IncompleteSenten · 16/08/2023 06:05

Con artist imo. I think she squeezed every penny she could out of it.

Erdinger · 16/08/2023 06:03

I’m not actually sure why the OP is up in arms that some of the money may have gone to minor refreshments / comfort for the hardworking NHS staff who were overwhelmed. I’d love to know how she helped out during the pandemic

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 16/08/2023 06:00

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 16/08/2023 00:00

So our money, in your trust ,went on tampons, massages, art/animal therapy and treats?

Wow.

You have to take some responsibility for knowing what the charity you support actually does.

mumofteenss · 16/08/2023 05:59

In our trust we got two modular building staff rooms, with seating, tvs, and vending machines. then some "pods" around the hospital which were brightly coloured tables and one seat either side. During covid when there were restriction on how many staff could be in the actual staff rooms they were handy. Now the modular buildings are used occasionally as they arent close to wards and breaks are so short by the time you get to one its time to go back off break, and i dont know what happened to the pods but they are long gone.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/08/2023 05:55

oakleaffy · 16/08/2023 01:51

Me too! I donated like many others before the ''First Million'' and it went absolutely nuts .
I'd rather have given to a more worthy cause - she is s greedy profiteering grabby opportunist ~ Shameless woman in my opinion.

If I’m reading this correctly, you donated right in the beginning rather than to the foundation, so your money is safe and went to the nhs.

Minime88888888 · 16/08/2023 05:24

https://www.hannahingrammoore.com/

So many words yet so little to read. 😆

Hannah Ingram-Moore

https://www.hannahingrammoore.com

Oatycookies · 16/08/2023 05:18

Nottslady · 16/08/2023 01:31

I cannot believe the vitriol I am hearing, that people honestly think nhs clinical staff, especially those working in urgent or acute services, do not deserve a cup of tea and a mars bar. On a 12 or even 18 hour shift in A&E, when often there is barely time for a glass of water let alone a sit down and a cuppa, when they are doing everything they can with limited staffing, space, time, to save the lives of people you love, do you really begrudge your charity donation going towards food and drink?

As someone previously said, these staff members have paid for parking or transport to work, they pay inflated prices in the canteen or a vending machine (if they are lucking enough to have 5 minutes to do so) for anything food and drink they haven’t brought from home. They provide their own tea bags, milk, etc for the staff rooms. The kettle and microwave is often broken, the chairs are ripped, the cleaner has left so no ones emptied the bin for a week, something is broken but estates were called 3 weeks ago and still haven’t been.

They are working over their rota’d hours and so probably not being paid, perhaps because the next staff member is sick, late, quit, caught up with an emergency in the car park.

They owe thousands in student loans they took out to do this training.

They are not having a fucking cream tea like they are on holiday in Devon. They deserve a mars bar, or even a massage if they are damn lucky enough to find time to have one.

I know this was not the original point of the post but I could not walk away without sharing my absolute disgust at some of the comments I have read here about nhs staff getting any of the very small and very rare benefits that have been referenced.

I agree. People were okay to give them that measly sham of a clap on a Thursday, which I always refused to take part in, but how dare they receive anything actually meaningful to enhance their working lives. You couldn’t make it up.

countrygirl99 · 16/08/2023 04:57

Smartiepants79 · 15/08/2023 22:02

I don’t remember it being reported as the local village hall!
It is the school his grandson was attending. It was reported as such in local news. It is not news that the family was relatively well off before this happened.

I saw a BBC report where it was described as the village school. We also recognised the actual location and were in hysterics. I think I even posted on mumsnetabout it at the time.

SoSad44 · 16/08/2023 04:53

AlexReventa · 16/08/2023 01:30

An independent body should be controlling it.

Yes it’s called the Charity Commission and there is an investigation and they can’t receive further donations at this stage.

SoSad44 · 16/08/2023 04:51

I think her DH is in it as well. He is a trustee of the charity! In a properly run charity that’s already a red flag (one family member CEO, the spouse the trustee). Wasn’t he a director of 60 companies and most of them went bust? I think they are both grifters.

just remember when she stood at Wimbledon to receive applause 😳😵‍💫

AlanGrantsNeckerchief · 16/08/2023 04:48

people need to remember what it was like - it was just a big wave of hype with people jumping on the “Captain Tom” bandwagon and donating money “for the NHS”. people just wanted to be involved and donate and weren’t bothered about the small print and where the money would actually end up. so it’s a bit rich to be complaining now about where the money went if no research was done at the time. i remember it being said the money couldn’t be spent on frontline services etc so info was out there

my hospital for example got a garden space for patients and staff. and if some money got spent on making life / work a bit nicer for NHS staff i have no bother with that - it was a horrible time. i expect some people think that banging a pan on their doorstep once a week was adequate thanks for nhs staff and god forbid any money was spent on anything practical to help 🤷‍♀️

nettie434 · 16/08/2023 04:09

@Nottslady I agree with what you have written. There is no point in having new high tech equipment if there are not enough staff to operate it because they have left due to stress and burnout.

@MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather I don't think anyone should feel bad about giving money to Captain Tom (as opposed to the Captain Tom Foundation). There was so much media pressure to donate and the money he raised helped the NHS at a time of pressure. However, donors get very little say in how money raised through these high profile campaigns gets spent. Some charities do allow donors to specify how they want their donations to be used which is why it's often more satisfying to stick to a particular charity or charities.

foolishone · 16/08/2023 03:51

MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather · 16/08/2023 01:13

If there was a genuine need, I'm pretty sure the nurses would have preferred the equipment than the chocolates. If this had have been a 'crisis' it wouldn't have been a question. It clearly wasn't though, because covid is less deadly than flu. And the Government knew this all along.

And there we go, the truth behind the thread. You object to your money being spent on staff welfare because it wasn't actually that bad anyway.

You took a while to get there though, well done on your restraint.

lemmein · 16/08/2023 02:18

Found it Grin

Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?
lemmein · 16/08/2023 02:17

Russ Abbott and Dick Van Dyke were my first crushes Blush

There's a photo somewhere of Captain Tom with Russ Abbott and (I think) Cliff Richard in Barbados.

Cliff Richard I can understand, sort of, I know he lives in Barbados, but where the fuck did Russ Abbott come from? 🤣

I love how weirdly random that photo is!

illiterato · 16/08/2023 01:59

Womencanlift · 16/08/2023 01:40

👏👏👏 could not agree with you more

I see how broken the staff are when I see my family members who are both doctors and nurses. I don’t think the public really know how bad it is. Many are too busy bitching about them having a donated Mars bar

Cant believe the posts saying I thought my donation was going on a respirator not a bunch of snacks from Costco. It doesn’t matter, it all kept the NHS ticking over when it was needed most

Agreed and the fact is that anyone could have googled NHS Charities Together and seen what their remit is before donating (caveat: unless the website didnt exist in 2020 in its present form). If I'm honest, would I have donated based on their remit? Probably not because I see the potential for absolutely massive waste and I prefer more tangible spend, but I don't think the sentiment was necessarily wrong or in any way dodgy.

I think it's important to separate the current shenanigans (Capt Tom Foundation) which is at best, badly managed, and at worst, fraudulent, from the original NHS appeal which was just a product of its time and seems to have been reasonably transparent and in good faith.

It is a huge amount to end up in unrestricted donations (which means the charity is not required to track or account for expenditure by line item or initiative) but that's just a case of the whole thing exploding in popularity and becoming much bigger than they envisaged.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2023 01:51

Doihavetogotoworkdotcom1 · 15/08/2023 21:33

I feel like I want my money back, that I foolishly donated.

Me too! I donated like many others before the ''First Million'' and it went absolutely nuts .
I'd rather have given to a more worthy cause - she is s greedy profiteering grabby opportunist ~ Shameless woman in my opinion.

Womencanlift · 16/08/2023 01:49

Kitkatcatflap · 16/08/2023 01:44

You are naughty .... but sometimes funny is bloody funny

I watched it on You Tube earlier. He looked about 55 in the video but I checked and he was only in his 30s 🤯

Womencanlift · 16/08/2023 01:47

beeonmybonnett · 16/08/2023 01:34

i never fully grasped why people donated to this in the first place - the NHS is NOT a charity and is funded by the government / taxpayer so I never donated !!

There was an NHS donation stand in my local Morrisons during covid. My sister was made redundant quite early on so helped out as a volunteer.

Donations were either cash or products. They were very clear this was to support the staff and patients so donations were used to make up care packages for patients because nobody could get up to visit and give them what the needed like basic toiletries, snacks etc

They were also clear that some of the cash would go to the staff for pizza’s, snacks, soft drinks etc to say thank you for their efforts

They were so overwhelmed by support as people just wanted to do something. I think that’s why CT raised so much - people felt so helpless they wanted to do their bit and things like that was something to grab onto

kittensinthekitchen · 16/08/2023 01:47

Some seriously hard of thinking and reading people on this thread isn't there?

MadNads · 16/08/2023 01:45

Towdalinenow · 16/08/2023 00:56

In the 80s Russ Abbot (popular comedian) released a terrible song about parties with a happy atmosphere. Worth a look on YouTube. It definitely belongs back in the 80s 🤣

It's an amazing song - I walked down the aisle to it at my wedding 😂 (and not in the 80s either)

Kitkatcatflap · 16/08/2023 01:44

Womencanlift · 15/08/2023 22:10

Taking the old boy on a long haul holiday during a pandemic where he caught COVID off Russ Abbott and ended up in GRAVE.

I had heard he got covid in his holiday but from Russ Abbott????? I wonder if it happened at a party with a happy atmosphere…..

(sorry to anyone under 40 who has likely never heard that dance floor classic 😂)

You are naughty .... but sometimes funny is bloody funny

Womencanlift · 16/08/2023 01:40

Nottslady · 16/08/2023 01:31

I cannot believe the vitriol I am hearing, that people honestly think nhs clinical staff, especially those working in urgent or acute services, do not deserve a cup of tea and a mars bar. On a 12 or even 18 hour shift in A&E, when often there is barely time for a glass of water let alone a sit down and a cuppa, when they are doing everything they can with limited staffing, space, time, to save the lives of people you love, do you really begrudge your charity donation going towards food and drink?

As someone previously said, these staff members have paid for parking or transport to work, they pay inflated prices in the canteen or a vending machine (if they are lucking enough to have 5 minutes to do so) for anything food and drink they haven’t brought from home. They provide their own tea bags, milk, etc for the staff rooms. The kettle and microwave is often broken, the chairs are ripped, the cleaner has left so no ones emptied the bin for a week, something is broken but estates were called 3 weeks ago and still haven’t been.

They are working over their rota’d hours and so probably not being paid, perhaps because the next staff member is sick, late, quit, caught up with an emergency in the car park.

They owe thousands in student loans they took out to do this training.

They are not having a fucking cream tea like they are on holiday in Devon. They deserve a mars bar, or even a massage if they are damn lucky enough to find time to have one.

I know this was not the original point of the post but I could not walk away without sharing my absolute disgust at some of the comments I have read here about nhs staff getting any of the very small and very rare benefits that have been referenced.

👏👏👏 could not agree with you more

I see how broken the staff are when I see my family members who are both doctors and nurses. I don’t think the public really know how bad it is. Many are too busy bitching about them having a donated Mars bar

Cant believe the posts saying I thought my donation was going on a respirator not a bunch of snacks from Costco. It doesn’t matter, it all kept the NHS ticking over when it was needed most